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danny92 · 07-17-2012, 06:28 AM

Hey there fellow zilvia members.
I just have a few questions that i need clearing up regarding a manual conversion for my jdm 180sx type S.
Will i need a manual ecu for the conversion? or can i use my current automatic ecu with the manual gearbox?
Im currently thinking of buying a sr20det s14 gearbox to fit it to my sr20de engine.

Now i have done quite abit of research regarding this matter so im not trying to get spoon fed here but since my car is quite rare.. type s being non turbo and automatic 180sx its really hard to get correct information over the net.

Any help will be appreciated
Thanks in advance

Danny

ixfxi · 07-17-2012, 08:41 AM

you shouldnt need to change ecu, only gearbox

nutendo · 07-17-2012, 09:08 AM

You still gonna need clutch hard line, cutch paddle assembly, tranny, clutch master cylinder and shift boot

drift213 · 07-17-2012, 09:14 AM

It will run like shit with auto ecu just reflash ecu or buy a 5 speed one

danny92 · 07-17-2012, 03:10 PM

will the Sr20det manual ecu be good? or will I need to get a Sr20de manual ecu ?

Infamax · 07-17-2012, 03:14 PM

If you don't have an sr20det don't use an ecu for the sr20det. Since you're NA, use an NA sr20de ecu.

*brndck* · 07-18-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by drift213

It will run like shit with auto ecu just reflash ecu or buy a 5 speed one

Bullshit. It will run perfectly well with an automatic Ecu.

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Originally Posted by JaneHartung

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This is about the tenth thread that you've just put an irrelevant one word reply. Fucking knock it off troll.

ixfxi · 07-18-2012, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brndck

Bullshit. It will run perfectly well with an automatic Ecu.

This is about the tenth thread that you've just put an irrelevant one word reply. Fucking knock it off troll.

hahaha you dont want to purchase anything from cleaningcassette.com? weightloss? come on man

as a sidenote, yes.. car will run fine with auto ECU.. in addition to having NO SPEED LIMITER

and no, you do not want the sr20det ecu (yet)................. you will someday.

*brndck* · 07-18-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

as a sidenote, yes.. car will run fine with auto ECU.. in addition to having NO SPEED LIMITER
and no, you do not want the sr20det ecu (yet)................. you will someday.

yeah I've seen a number of Datsuns with NA SR swaps, and they SEARCH for automatic ecus so they won't have the speed limiter.

gerardogomez0809 · 07-19-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brndck

yeah I've seen a number of Datsuns with NA SR swaps, and they SEARCH for automatic ecus so they won't have the speed limiter.

Does that apply to all auto ecu's that are used on a 5spd tranny? I had an auto ecu on my 5spd ca18det. I went and bought a 5spd ecu and noticed no difference. I should go back to an auto ecu. Lol.

Sorry for intruding on ur thread like that bro. Just wanted to know though

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*brndck* · 07-19-2012, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gerardogomez0809

Does that apply to all auto ecu's that are used on a 5spd tranny? I had an auto ecu on my 5spd ca18det. I went and bought a 5spd ecu and noticed no difference. I should go back to an auto ecu. Lol.

Sorry for intruding on ur thread like that bro. Just wanted to know though

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The way the engine runs should be exactly the same with a 5spd Ecu or an auto Ecu. The only difference is that the auto Ecu doesn't have the speed cut (since all auto trans had an external transmission control "Ecu" that took care of it, so it didn't have to be built onto the engine Ecu).

ixfxi · 07-19-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brndck

The way the engine runs should be exactly the same with a 5spd Ecu or an auto Ecu. The only difference is that the auto Ecu doesn't have the speed cut (since all auto trans had an external transmission control "Ecu" that took care of it, so it didn't have to be built onto the engine Ecu).

this is correct for our cars... however, i think this era is gone and over when it comes to newer cars like the vq powered nissans and such (z/g). these cars dont run proper when you remove a gauge cluster, i cant imagine them working right with the wrong ecu

danny92 · 07-19-2012, 06:56 PM

sweet thanks for the help guys.

Wookie384 · 07-19-2012, 08:09 PM

You can use an auto ECU on a manual KA and SR. The noticeable difference is that the auto ECU lacks a speed limiter, there are others but the differences are so minor you will never notice.

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gerardogomez0809 · 07-20-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brndck

The way the engine runs should be exactly the same with a 5spd Ecu or an auto Ecu. The only difference is that the auto Ecu doesn't have the speed cut (since all auto trans had an external transmission control "Ecu" that took care of it, so it didn't have to be built onto the engine Ecu).

That's right. I forgot about the TCM.

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07-17-2012, 06:28 AM	#1
danny92 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Zealand Age: 31 Posts: 78 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	180 type S manual conversion Hey there fellow zilvia members. I just have a few questions that i need clearing up regarding a manual conversion for my jdm 180sx type S. Will i need a manual ecu for the conversion? or can i use my current automatic ecu with the manual gearbox? Im currently thinking of buying a sr20det s14 gearbox to fit it to my sr20de engine. Now i have done quite abit of research regarding this matter so im not trying to get spoon fed here but since my car is quite rare.. type s being non turbo and automatic 180sx its really hard to get correct information over the net. Any help will be appreciated Thanks in advance Danny

07-17-2012, 09:14 AM	#4
drift213 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: los angeles Posts: 1,089 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	It will run like shit with auto ecu just reflash ecu or buy a 5 speed one __________________ LOTS OF SR20,ka24de,s13 goodies for sale check my threds

07-17-2012, 08:41 AM	#2
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 82 Posts: 5,932 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you shouldnt need to change ecu, only gearbox

07-17-2012, 09:08 AM	#3
nutendo Join Date: May 2008 Location: oakley Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You still gonna need clutch hard line, cutch paddle assembly, tranny, clutch master cylinder and shift boot

07-17-2012, 03:10 PM	#5
danny92 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Zealand Age: 31 Posts: 78 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	will the Sr20det manual ecu be good? or will I need to get a Sr20de manual ecu ?

07-17-2012, 03:14 PM	#6
Infamax Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yuba City (Nor Cal) Age: 37 Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	If you don't have an sr20det don't use an ecu for the sr20det. Since you're NA, use an NA sr20de ecu.

07-19-2012, 06:56 PM	#13
danny92 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Zealand Age: 31 Posts: 78 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sweet thanks for the help guys.

07-19-2012, 08:09 PM	#14
Wookie384 Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: N. Hollywood / Burbank Age: 39 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: Wookie384 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	You can use an auto ECU on a manual KA and SR. The noticeable difference is that the auto ECU lacks a speed limiter, there are others but the differences are so minor you will never notice. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2