tokico vs. KYB

[Ricer240sx]

anybody out there with experiance between the 2 struts?? i am looking at the adjustable versions. not sure what to go with next so i would just like a little input

also, what springs does everyone like best(and please compare to somthing else and be in detail so i can decide whats best FOE ME )

[kingsol]

i don't think the tokico blues are adjustable, so don't go for those... stay away from the kyb gr2's because they aren't adjustable for sure. just go for the agx, tein combo... everyone seems to like them

[DuffMan]

Tokico makes an adjustable shock, just not for the 240sx.

Go with the AGX's

[OptionZero]

AGX owns all...except maybe GAB, but no experience with those.

[Ricer240sx]

i guess i should have done more reasearch then lol, sorry bout that, my buddie was telling me i should go with the tikico's cause there cheaper and not that bad (although he doesnt have experiance with either, hense the reason for this thread ) so i wanted to get the 411 on the struts lol, but i guess im back to the original strut, the AGX's

anyone else got anyother spring suggestions, i got the tokico blues with eibach sportlines right now and have no complaints!

[Buffalo Daughter]

dood tokico are shit. They blow out hella quick. They cant take the abuse like agx can. If you ever get a shock spring combo save teh extra money and get adjustables. Well worth the money. Peice of shit tokico

[Ricer240sx]

i have had no problems with mine yet and i dont exactly drive like a grandma lol

[kingsol]

check the faq section... there's a whole list of spring rates, but yeah, search first

[Buffalo Daughter]

Originally Posted by Ricer240sx

i have had no problems with mine yet and i dont exactly drive like a grandma lol

I think its just the fucked up roads here in the bay.Mainly san jose,milpitas road, 101, and of course the harsh of the harsh frisco streets.

[Dream240]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Daughter

I think its just the fucked up roads here in the bay.Mainly san jose,milpitas road, 101, and of course the harsh of the harsh frisco streets.

you said it. The City has the worst roads I've ever seen! Something outta a bad Godzilla movie....

I hear ya about the 101 too, damn bumps make me feel like my car is gonna break in half!!

I have the Sportlines with AGX combo, no complaints form the setup. Just one squeak in the right rear, but I'm sure it's a rubber mount or something that I put in backwards, no biggie. Also the AGX aren't really cheaper. The'll run you about 400.00 to 450.00 depending on where you get them from. DON"T get them from eBay sellers, heard bad things about guys selling struts on eBay lately. Used, blown, etc.

Try enjukuracing.com or look for a group buy somewhere.

[KevDog240]

i have the sportsline with the agx combo too the only thing is i havent had them a year and my rear's are already blown. they cost a lot of money for that. i treated them pretty well for the most part. i dogged them every now and then. i think it had to do with the fact i have sportsline though since it says when you get the struts not to drop the car more then 2" and sportslines are 2.2" i believe. they are good for a year of warranty as long as you dont drop the car over 2" so i guess im SOL

[Buffalo Daughter]

Originally Posted by KevDog240

i have the sportsline with the agx combo too the only thing is i havent had them a year and my rear's are already blown. they cost a lot of money for that. i treated them pretty well for the most part. i dogged them every now and then. i think it had to do with the fact i have sportsline though since it says when you get the struts not to drop the car more then 2" and sportslines are 2.2" i believe. they are good for a year of warranty as long as you dont drop the car over 2" so i guess im SOL

2.5 drop you mean for the sportlines.
Yeah i need new shock or dampers.

[hookedup240]

I had the agx's with sportlines on my s13 for over 2 years and never had a problem, the agx's work very well, although the ride is pretty stiff.

[ryan hagen]

rs*r springs i hear are pretty nice

[turbod240]

My gf's 240 has jdm bilstein struts and shocks with rs*r springs, this is a awesome setup, but you can only get bilsteins in japan for the 240sx but rs8r springs are definitely worth it.

[Dream240]

While we're on the subject of struts, does anyone know of a hybrid strut that will mount up to the 240sx chassis but will fit a 300zx rear upright?

I'm doing the rear brake upgrade and I want to use the aluminum uprights but they won't fit a 240 strut setup. Difference is that the 300zx upright takes a fork type mounting strut not the round ball mount that the 240 uses.

Maybe someone makes struts for this purpose? If not I'll have to find a shop that will mke custom mounting brackets for my AGXs. i'm sure there's someone that can do it.

Anyone have any ideas or sources?

[Var]

300zx struts should work, make sure to get adjustable ones they may be valved too stiff for the 240

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tokico<KYB<Koni

[ryan hagen]

u use the 240sx rear upper mount on a 300zx shock, my friend did it

[Dream240]

Originally Posted by westboroughpimp

300zx struts should work, make sure to get adjustable ones they may be valved too stiff for the 240

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tokico<KYB<Koni

Hmmm....I'm wondering if the rear KYB AGXs for the 300zx are too stiff at the lowest setting? I'm sure they're not. Maybe the equivalent of: 300 strut=1 then, 240 strut=4...hmmm. I'll ask KYB see what they say about stiffness settings.

[Ricer240sx]

acctualy, thank u for starting the whole 300z thing, caus i am gunna have the same problem as i got the Z conversion, i didnt even think about that lol. would it be easier to jsut swap hubs or should i just go and get the Z struts for the rear???

and, would i have to leave the KYBS at the lowest for them to work ok with the 240??

thanx for all the help guys!!!!!

[Var]

well just figure out the stock rear spring rates for the z32. It will probably be ok though.

[balmo]

kyb agx is a good damper. but between that and the tokico HTS, well thats a different story.

[KevDog240]

how do you know if the dampers are blown and its not the struts without taking the struts off

[Var]

because you check your blinker fluid. If it's darker than your muffler bearing lubricant, then it's your strut. If it's lighter than the muffler bearinf lubricant, then it's your damper

[Ricer240sx]

Originally Posted by westboroughpimp

because you check your blinker fluid. If it's darker than your muffler bearing lubricant, then it's your strut. If it's lighter than the muffler bearinf lubricant, then it's your damper

no one here did anything to diserve ur shit, we are trying to get some information, not listen to u talk like a moron, so if u could please refrain from being and that would be great!

[Dream240]

Originally Posted by westboroughpimp

because you check your blinker fluid. If it's darker than your muffler bearing lubricant, then it's your strut. If it's lighter than the muffler bearinf lubricant, then it's your damper

Uhhh...is it just me or does this make no sense whatsoever?

The 300zx spring rates are higher than the 240. Something like 112lbs(240)
to 130lbs(300) in the rear. Heavier car.

So I'm pretty sure this means that the 300zx springs are shorter and thus the struts are shorter. So a 300zx strut with a 240 suspension would only work with a lowering spring. I think. But even then it's not going to fit perfect or anything. I'm gonna see if I can find a pic of the 300zx rear suspension exploded and compare it with my pic of a 240 rear suspension.

Ultimately I say it's doable, but I don't wanna buy new struts! My AGXs work great! And they cost me enough!

[Dream240]

Originally Posted by Ricer240sx

acctualy, thank u for starting the whole 300z thing, caus i am gunna have the same problem as i got the Z conversion, i didnt even think about that lol. would it be easier to jsut swap hubs or should i just go and get the Z struts for the rear???

and, would i have to leave the KYBS at the lowest for them to work ok with the 240??

thanx for all the help guys!!!!!

Okay, you don't need new hubs. You will need the 300zx rear drum setup, ebrake cables, and the rear uprights if you want to use them. You don't have to though. the rear drum setup and and the rotor will mount to the 240 rear upright okay. Just so you know, the 300zx uses an inner drum inside the hub of the rear rotor to engage the ebrake.

As far as using the KYB AGXs for the setup. If you're running a 240 strut you can set them wherever you like. If it's an AGX for a 300zx then I'll have to check into that. I'm thinking that you can adjust it if you want but it's just going to get REALLY stiff at the higher settings.

[Var]

Originally Posted by Ricer240sx

no one here did anything to diserve ur shit, we are trying to get some information, not listen to u talk like a moron, so if u could please refrain from being and that would be great!

ok Ricer.
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[ryan hagen]

i did the swap on my car for rear z brakes, i did not use the 300zx upright, i used the 240 one, and a 300zx shock on a 240 makes the car look gay, like 4wd style...... it might raise the rear like 1" at least that what i t looks like, my friend did it on his car, i ll see if i can get a pic, but stiffer springs isnt bad

[Dream240]

Yeah if you've got a pic that would be great.

But here's an interesting side note, the rear of the 240 is lower than the front by about 1/2 inch. So raising the rear end 1" wouldn't look that bad, would it?

I'm talking about a setup that has a 1.7" lower in the back and 1.4" in the front. And on my car my offset makes the rear look even lower than that. I wonder.....?
Really the only reason you'd use the 300zx setup would be to get rid of some unsprung weight in the back. Pretty big difference from the weight of the 300zx aluminum and the 240 iron ones. BUT the rear isn't really where you want to loose weight, unless you're trying to get a drift setup.

But yeah post a pic if you can and give us some details about the cars setup.