too bad civics dont have onstar....

[justinhustle]

[SimpleS14]

[s14xman]

LOL funny pic!! But i guess it should apply to ugly ass cars not just civics because some civics are hotness!!

[justinhustle]

true, it was general to them

honda owners are like tampons, every pussy has one

[s14xman]

I happen to like hondas!!! some really clean/fast cars are built by some owners you have to appreciate that!!

STOP HATIN' ON HONDA OWNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by s14xman

I happen to like hondas!!! some really clean/fast cars are built by some owners you have to appreciate that!!

STOP HATIN' ON HONDA OWNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh STFU X...your just wishing you had a 92 civic hatch DX auto rite now.

[WilloW]

I'm think the Honda guys might say the same about 240s.

[s14xman]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Oh STFU X...your just wishing you had a 92 civic hatch DX auto rite now.

HAHAHA ur crazy man!!

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by jsteed

true, it was general to them

honda owners are like tampons, every pussy has one

LOL


note: I like the S2000 and NSX

[hondaguy]

so are you sayin that civics should pull over and burn im lost here lol

[oojpeeoo]

wutz wrong with a civic? hondas are the OG's of importcars

[Ghettokracker71]

Originally Posted by WilloW

I'm think the Honda guys might say the same about 240s.

Why? Because 240's are faster,cooler and better stock,and more aftermarket potential?....Jealousy I geuss...

BTW I do like hondas!(some,very few,and far between)

[nokeone]

Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71

Why? Because 240's are faster,cooler and better stock,and more aftermarket potential?....Jealousy I geuss...

faster stock?..SI?..Type R?..GSR?..S2000?..NSX?..mmmhmmm...you'll be smokin those cars with your stock KA...

cooler?..matter of opinion..so it's worthless as an arguing point...

better?..in what ways?..on whose scale?...fact or opinon?..if fact..elaborate..

more aftermarket potential?..doubtful..if anything they are rather equal in aftermarket support, availability, and potential...just about anything you can get for one you can get for the other...with enough money anything is possible with either...

think people...then post...it's a simple 2 step process...

[toreno]

Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71

Why? Because 240's are faster,cooler and better stock,and more aftermarket potential?....Jealousy I geuss...

BTW I do like hondas!(some,very few,and far between)

I dont think you know what you are talking about......

[SimpleS14]

My 95 SE ownz a 89 Civic DX!!!!1

[Ghettokracker71]

Originally Posted by toreno

I dont think you know what you are talking about......

NO?

SR20DET or RB25DET VS. B18C5 ? Enough said.

Tein,JIC Magic,and etc. are definitely better than companies like DC Sports and DNX performance.

Cooler is definitely a matter of opinion. But in my area,there is NO other modded 240's I've seen running around....I can't go somewhere without seeing a modded honda,therefore,rare car is cooler! Somethings not cool if you can't go somewhere without seeing 20 of them running around all in your face.

Faster? My DOHC S13 with an auto trans BTW has definitely owned its share of coffee-canned civics with SI's badges,and "Type R" badges....Lets talk JDM to JDM....at least if you are talking stock car against stock car.(hmm...SR20 vs. B18 ??)


STOCK:
Civic=econobox.

240sx=economy sports car.

Wich is better? 100% econo box,or econo sports car?

FR or FF?

And don't bring up NSX,this thread was started talking about a civic....and I'm sure a MINE's(or whoever) skyline would kill a Spoon(or Mugen,or whoeverthefuck you want) NSX....

EDIT:Yes,the S200 is cool,but a Z33 owns it(not really same class,but if you must compare...)

So,how do I not know what I'm talking about except maybe the jealousy thing b/c most honda guys I've met think that honda is the best company,and their specific honda is the best one ever....but alot more of them are getting alot more jealous of the 240sx b/c of the new drift craze(or fad,or movement,or whatever term you wish to call it,I don't care.)

[Ghettokracker71]

Originally Posted by toreno

Look at your car,
enough said.

Was my car what the disagreement was about? Nope.

As the guys on this forum tell people all the time,its whether or not YOU like it. Besides...

Ghettokracker=poor boy.(funny,you say look at my car....I get complements on it all the time,from vette owners like the guy I bought it from,from hot-rodders who don't know what it is,and just think it looks/sounds cool,and from 'ricers'...etc..)

Note:You couldn't disagree with the fact that 240sx owns civic,modded or stock.

I didn't buy the 240 to be a street racer,or a show car anyway....as in,to impress people(you) or to show people up(hondaboys)....I bought it as a car that I wouldn't care what other people think,just to enjoy,and put some money into.

EDIT:as I stated earlier....I like some hondas. I would drive an ITR or even a Teg GSR....hell,proble a base model 'teg,....I would drive a "sleeper" civic. I know the potential they have first hand(black w/gray primer hood,with B18,not sure if its C1 or C5,but it did have a skunk2 intake mani,DC sports header,replaced cams but I didn't recognize the brand,and nitrous) but you cannot disagree that the nissan 240sx has alot higher potential. CA18DET,SR20DET,RB20DET are alot better choices then the B16C1,the B18C1,the B18C5 and the H22A(yes,its doable into a civic....). Plus FR is alot better then FF in general. I like FF,its easy to drive,and has nice things about it.....but there is a reason why the best performance cars using 2WD systems are RWD (ferrari ENZO,porsche GT2,Bugatti Veyron 16.4.....hell....supra,viper,'vette and even the HONDA nsx?)

[Chernobyl]

I will bet you that if you put a 98 240sx SE up against a 99 civic SI, the civic will match if not beat the 240's performance. So stop with the Honda bashing already. Jeezus.

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by Chernobyl

I will bet you that if you put a 98 240sx SE up against a 99 civic SI, the civic will match if not beat the 240's performance. So stop with the Honda bashing already. Jeezus.

How about handling? j/w

[justinhustle]

ya know, i think people here just wanna argue, out of boredum

its pretty common knowledge, a civic was never intended to be a performance vehicle and most of the owners are idiots

whereas atleast our cars are a little sporty designed, and were all still idiots

[toreno]

This post is gettin useless....... Cars are just Cars... takes you from point A to point B.

[No Motiv]

hahaha ^ yes

[Red]

Its not the brand thats for sure... I like the NSX... and a few others.

I dislike all Civix and tegs and all those other "rice" cars...

And its not the car's, its the kids who drive them... Most are punks who need a good ass kicking becuse they are retarted... There ideas are retarted... All kids are retarted...

It is also true that every kid has one... almost every one is moded... And they all want to race... Its kinda anoying. I hate punks like that.

I like the 240... Its rare... I like that... other then that... Its a shitbox too.

[Johny5]

hate the g3 tegs if you're gonna hate tegs. g2's can just be so much cleaner and who can hate oldschool? thats probably the only honda i'd take. and so you honda haters don't fckin argue with me, i'm not saying its any better, i just appreciate the looks and SOME of the suspension qualities of them.

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71

NO?

SR20DET or RB25DET VS. B18C5 ? Enough said.

Tein,JIC Magic,and etc. are definitely better than companies like DC Sports and DNX performance.

Cooler is definitely a matter of opinion. But in my area,there is NO other modded 240's I've seen running around....I can't go somewhere without seeing a modded honda,therefore,rare car is cooler! Somethings not cool if you can't go somewhere without seeing 20 of them running around all in your face.

Faster? My DOHC S13 with an auto trans BTW has definitely owned its share of coffee-canned civics with SI's badges,and "Type R" badges....Lets talk JDM to JDM....at least if you are talking stock car against stock car.(hmm...SR20 vs. B18 ??)


STOCK:
Civic=econobox.

240sx=economy sports car.

Wich is better? 100% econo box,or econo sports car?

FR or FF?

And don't bring up NSX,this thread was started talking about a civic....and I'm sure a MINE's(or whoever) skyline would kill a Spoon(or Mugen,or whoeverthefuck you want) NSX....

EDIT:Yes,the S200 is cool,but a Z33 owns it(not really same class,but if you must compare...)

So,how do I not know what I'm talking about except maybe the jealousy thing b/c most honda guys I've met think that honda is the best company,and their specific honda is the best one ever....but alot more of them are getting alot more jealous of the 240sx b/c of the new drift craze(or fad,or movement,or whatever term you wish to call it,I don't care.)

This guy is a FUCKING oxymoron. ^^^

Im not even going to sit here and explain it to you cause its obviously have no idea what you talking about.

For god fucking sake, You are comparing the B18C5 to RB and SR. The Tein and JIC. Do you think JIC and Tein do not make any suspensions for Civics? *shakeshead furiously*.

[nokeone]

Al...thank you for saving me the time...couldn't have said it better...

[Ghettokracker71]

The thing was whether or not one could build a civic better than a 240sx,right?

Therefore we must compare the swappable engines,their potential,their advantages and disadvantages. We must compare the aftermarket parts available for each car,I was not aware that companies like JIC and Tein made products for the Honda Civic. Therefore I take back that argument. However,the S-Chassis is alot more rigid stock,compared to the stock honda civic chassis,and has alot more suspension componets to make it alot more rigid,modified to modified. The RB,and SR engines are STREETABLE engine swaps into the S-chassis car. The B series engines are streetable swaps into the Honda Civic,therefore they are compared b/c those are the available engines (if you're gonna swap) that would be compared.H22A is not a streetable swap into a honda civic,my cousin goes to UTI in houston,and they did that swap,the car won't take turns above 20MPH because the engine weights so much more then the chassis was designed to handle.Therefore how am I an oxymoron? I am comparing the available parts for each car as fairly as possible. It is an unfair comparison for obvious reasons(FR VS. FF,etc).

If you are going to compare a car,you have to legitimately,therefore allowing me to compare the SR and RB engine to the B series engines;As well as allowing me to compare JIC Magic and Tein to DC Sports and etc.,once again,sorry for the mix up about JIC and TEIN....

EDIT:To do a true "shoot-out" competition,I feel it would only be fair to allow the honda to have some form of forced induction seeing as both the SR and RB are turbocharged engines.

[TRUENOCOUPE]

edit>>

The RB,and SR engines are STREETABLE engine swaps into the S-chassis car. The B series engines are streetable swaps into the Honda Civic,therefore they are compared b/c those are the available engines (if you're gonna swap) that would be compared.H22A is not a streetable swap into a honda civic,my cousin goes to UTI in houston,and they did that swap,the car won't take turns above 20MPH because the engine weights so much more then the chassis was designed to handle.Therefore how am I an oxymoron?

God... Please... Please... make it stop...

Im done.

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by TRUENOCOUPE

This guy is a FUCKING oxymoron. ^^^

Im not even going to sit here and explain it to you cause its obviously have no idea what you talking about.

For god fucking sake, You are comparing the B18C5 to RB and SR. The Tein and JIC. Do you think JIC and Tein do not make any suspensions for Civics? *shakeshead furiously*.

this guy is comparing jic and tein to dc sports and skunk2. why not compare jdm manufacturers to jdm manufacturers. jun and toda have largee support for civics and integras in japan. probably even more than some sr20 parts. tein and jic make suspension systems for civics too. im sure if you comparee usdm companies for 240s and usdm companies for hondas you'd pick skunk2 over what littlee support the 240s have in the us. (unorthadox racing? fidanza? they only make flywheels and clutches for 240s and injen makes intakes for kas)

a car is a car and it depends on how much you spend on it. i love dc2s and ctrs. if i was to get a honda that was affordable it would be a dc2 with jdm front end. good gas mileagee, awesome at the corners, and na power.

you talk about rbs like they just bolt on. theres a lot of custom work required. SEARCH. if it wasn't for companies like mckinney motorsports making drop in kits that cost 1500-2000 jsut for the parts to make them fit then the RB would just be a dream engine into a 240. of course anyone would take a turbo 6 over an na 4. but stock for stock i would take a 280ps na 6 from the nsx over a 280ps turbo 6. to make almost 300hp na is such a feat. plus the sound of na is sweet. im not giong to say nas are more reliable because reliability depends on tuning. but with an na car the response is instant compared to the response of a turbo car w/ lag.

man i can't believe i wasted time typing this shit. GO BUY a BestMotoring video and you'll see how hondas are tuned in japan.

[nokeone]

Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71

The thing was whether or not one could build a civic better than a 240sx,

engines,their potential,their advantages and disadvantages. We must compare the aftermarket parts available for each car, I . However,more suspension componets to make it alot more rigid,modified to modified. The RB,and SR engines are STREETABLE engine swaps into the S-chassis car. The B series engines are a streetable swap into a honda civic,my cousin goes to UTI in houston,and they did that swap,the car won't take turns above 20MPH because the engine weights so much more then the chassisobvious reasons(FR VS. FF,etc).

If you are going to compare a car,you have to legitimately,therefore allowing me to compare the SR and RB engine to the B series engines;As well form of forced induction seeing as both the SR and RB are turbocharged engines.

i don't think you have any clue what you are talking about...you are so misinformed your arguments are horribly weak...you heard such and such from so and so and now you think you know something...guess what...you don't know shit...back up your statements...please!..

you are just making blanket assumptions about the different cars...and you keep mentioning the exact same brands...even after you were told to compare JDM to JDM manufacturers...there are more companies then just DCsports who make parts for civics...lol...

i prefer the 240 as well...no question as i've owned a built up civic...but c'mon..be informed if you are gonna start bashing something else...

that's all i would like from anyone on these boards...think, research, inform yourself, and then make statements that are more then opinion and heresay...