do you guys think i can take him?

[japside4life]

Here is what i have

1993 nissan 240sx coupe
sr20det redtop
greddy fmic
greddy profec b II boost controller
greddy turbo timer
walbro 255lph fuel pump
greddy type sbov
exedy flywheel
flexalite dual 12" fans
3in downpipe
3in exhuast

he has this It's an '88 Mustang hatchback w/ a stock 5-spd
-untouched 5.0L motor (original motor too )
-ET Streets on draglites
-stock tranny w/ stock clutch
-NOS wet shot
-badly fucked up posi (won't have the 9" in until next week @ the earliest, but I don't care)
-factory body panels & glass
-running pump gas (93 octane)
I can pop the hood to prove everything. The only change to the motor is a K&N filter and I destroyed it tonight on a backfire when I missed 3rd.

what do you guys think? he is going to be running 93 octane so im thinking he cant have too big of a shot but i dunno for sure.

BTW im just running the stock T25

[sykikchimp]

what boost are you running?

[japside4life]

see right now i think i have a slight boost leak somewhere. But i can hold 1 bar for like a second and then by the time i hit 7k rpms it drops off to about 10 psi.

[MakotoS13]

these threads aren't even entertaining. so utterly useless that i HAVE to chime in.

[japside4life]

what are you talking about? im just wondering wether or not to race this guy? he only races people for cash and i dont really feel like losing if someone can tell me im gonna get smoked. I actually think its gonna be a close race. We will probably run from a roll and a stop.

[TheTimanator]

Originally Posted by japside4life

see right now i think i have a slight boost leak somewhere. But i can hold 1 bar for like a second and then by the time i hit 7k rpms it drops off to about 10 psi.

thats kinda normal for the T25.
I guess it depends on what kind of drivers both you are and and how much Nitrous he is running. I've taken a stock 5.0 with a crapy driver once, but he had a bad launch. I think with a better launch it would have been much closer...

[TheTimanator]

Originally Posted by japside4life

what are you talking about? im just wondering wether or not to race this guy? he only races people for cash and i dont really feel like losing if someone can tell me im gonna get smoked. I actually think its gonna be a close race. We will probably run from a roll and a stop.

what? race for money? that's just stoopid...
although a friend of mine was at the track and he won $750 from a guy that thought his integra w/Naaawwwwsss could take out his heavy modified Corvette...

[japside4life]

yeah see i dont know off hand how much nitrous he is running. But i figure it cant be too big of a shot considering its only 93 octane.

[sykikchimp]

I think you'd be surprised...

I'm betting you will lose.

[Bbandit]

yes i agree

Be prepared to get 5.0wned
Stock SR@14psi is about as slow as my ka-t @7psi

[Mr. Badlose]

If he uses that nitrous I'd say you're going to lose in a drag race.

[mjjstang]

maybe if hes using nas, but dont those 5.0s have disgustingly horrible HP numbers. I mean the going to the 4.6 was an upgrade right. (why would you introduce a new sports car model and decrease the power) that means the 5.0 had less than 225 hp. am i correct.

[Hawd]

your going to get owned don't bother.

[240-porkchop-sx]

I agree your probably gunna lose, especially if it's going to be a rolling start....but if it's not too much money on the race, and you pull it off, then u have something to tell your kids

btw if this clowns running nos on a stock eng with not even a pully or head mod, he's up for a surprise one day ....when it goes boom

[pruto]

i dunno, 5.0s are slow unless modded. but, racing for money is stoopid IMO.

[JaeTea]

Racing under what conditions?

Backing out of a driveway?

[Mr. Badlose]

5.0s are great for drag...anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they hell they're talking about. You can buy a Gude head and get 100 HP, pretty cost effective. BTW: How are you so sure of his mods? If I was going to race you for money I'd lie my ass off if I had internal work done.

I think a stock 5.0 will run mid 14s. Lotsa torque too.

But I second the notion "racing for money is stoopid."

[kandyflip445]

Originally Posted by Bbandit

yes i agree

Be prepared to get 5.0wned
Stock SR@14psi is about as slow as my ka-t @7psi

Damn boostaholics.....

Just race him for $5.00 and call it a day.

[pruto]

Mr. Badlose. note i said slow UNLESS MODIFIED. for a V8 it has pretty horrible numbers bone stock. and he is claiming an "untouched" engine with nos. although i agree that you can trust him and poping the hood won't show everything. Any number of mods can give the 5.0 significant HP gains. Kinda shady, if he only races for money that means he isn't new to this.

[itslogics]

I wouldn't if I were you, oh and by the way do you have pics of your car? And where are you located in Stl? I'm in St.Charles.

oh by the way don't tell me your the one with the "Vader" kit on a white coupe with a big wing.

[s13Dr1ft]

dont race him.Youll loose....IF he only races for money, as stated. Your not gonna win your money. Instead why dont you keep your money. and spend it on somthing usefull instead of street racing some chump in a 5.0, its better then racing, getting caught and paying fines and shit.

[Zemus]

Also he has drag tires doesnt he? So your saying his car looks stock, and Untouched.. My friends dad has a totaly stock looking 5.0, you pop the hood and it looks stock.. it runs a 12.8 with some ok tires, no nos. Just so you know ppl who race for money rarley are fucking around. My friends races for money in his Talon and runs 12.85 on the track, looks SUPER stock, its a 90 TSI, running 205s all around, all seasons, and 22 PSI, and his motor looks stock.. I say.. Bad idea, just get one of your friends with a fast car to race him, and find out that way.

[xVaporx]

he probably has a gear also, which helps tremendously. That same set up he has can easily run a mid to low 12. You're toast if he can drive it

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally Posted by xVaporx

he probably has a gear also

Whoah. Cars with gears are badass.

[kidinthehall]

wow.....this thread is full of all kinds of bullshit info.

I work for one of the largest most respected mustang specific shops in the country. without diving too far off into all this crap heres some cliffs notes for you.

ET Streets + wet kit+ decent driver= you getting owned. Even assuming he has stock heads/cam it would still be a solid mid/low 12 second car with enough nitrous.

Your car......hooking good, will at best be a ~12.90 car. (i went a 13.0 on pretty much the same parts as you.....ive yet to run with the new setup)

Plus you can figure a bunch of what he is telling you as far as mods is a lie. just a general rule of thumb (i see 10 mustangs on my dyno a week.....many owners arent very forthcoming about whats on/in the car)

[kidinthehall]

John: what all parts are on your 03? What software is it tuned with? just out of curiosity.

[MakotoS13]

the guy is puttin in a 9" rear next week, runs DR's, and at least tells you of his nitrous wet kit? seriously dude... you should know he's trying to bait you.

some info:

the 8.8" solid axle in the moostang is really really really tough so if he needs to upgrade... what the hell does that tell you? that isn't a part that just "goes out" on these cars unless you've done something to MAKE it go out.

a good rule of thumb:

if they only race for money they are almost certainly running at LEAST 12's (or most... whatever...)

yeah sure there are retards with 15 second civics that think they're fast that wanna race for cash but it probably wouldn't be much and them suckers are getting pretty rare nowadays...

whateva treva

[japside4life]

Well im not gonna do it.

But anyway who ever asked if my car is that white one its not. I seriously doubt many people from MO have seen my car. Im bringing it out to the soco hooters tommorow night though. If you wanna roll together hit me up on AIM. im Slow93Silvia on AIM. So if you want to cruise up by the soco hooters and leave and head out and do some racing let me know. We can go LT1 hunting or somthing.

[itslogics]

Originally Posted by japside4life

Well im not gonna do it.

But anyway who ever asked if my car is that white one its not. I seriously doubt many people from MO have seen my car. Im bringing it out to the soco hooters tommorow night though. If you wanna roll together hit me up on AIM. im Slow93Silvia on AIM. So if you want to cruise up by the soco hooters and leave and head out and do some racing let me know. We can go LT1 hunting or somthing.

Well thats good to hear that its not your car! I hate that car!! and now he has a Blacktop clip, in a shitty shitty 240. Thanks for the invite, but I already had plans with some people.

[old_s13]

1993 nissan 240sx coupe
sr20det redtop
greddy fmic
greddy profec b II boost controller
greddy turbo timer
walbro 255lph fuel pump
greddy type sbov
exedy flywheel
flexalite dual 12" fans
3in downpipe
3in exhuast

you have to understand that certain things you list dont do SHIT for performance. electric fans? fuel pump? blow off valve? turbo timer? i mean, these things arent even worth listing.. might as well list your clear front turn signals. those items are just necessary for your car NOT to blow up. going SR? raising boost? you need a fuel pump. you'll want a better intercooler. you'll obviously need a BOV since you cant use the stock one.