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import_racer87 · 08-24-2004, 10:03 PM

SR, RB, CA , whatever engine you put in your car, did you take the time to do it yourself? or did you pay a professional? If you did do it yourself did you have much experience beforehand or did you just kinda wing it and made it your first big project?

nightwalker · 08-24-2004, 11:34 PM

easy as pie. Just do it. NIKE. actually baking pie is a lot harder than swapping an engine.

TurDz · 08-25-2004, 12:21 AM

sometimes it's really deceiving when you hear that a certain car task is easy. There are so many different levels of competence here on zilvia and i think a lot of people forget that. After a lot of experiences as a first-timer on a lot of installs, whenever I read something like "a half an hour job" I end up taking 1 or 2 hours on it. its pretty frustrating sometimes, i'm probably just slow too.

silviasichigo · 08-25-2004, 12:35 AM

Well I guess I can say that I really did not install it all my self since it came stok to the car but I have re-built it twice already once back to stock and then the second time everything forged. It is really easy if you: 1. Take your time, 2. Have the FSM (factory service manual) for both cars if possible. 3. Have some friends there to help out thoes little things will make it go as easy as possible ( there will always be rusty bolts or mis threaded nuts) but take your time and it will go alot easier than most people think. It is a matter of getting past that fear of.....Damn am I going to take it apart and will I beable to put it back together in your mind.

Andrew Bohan · 08-25-2004, 01:22 AM

i've spent 77 hours so far pulling my old KA and rebuilding and installing another one. still not done yet haha

evilimport · 08-25-2004, 03:03 AM

I bought my 240sx with the SR already installed, but Im planning on buying a S13 and another SR to do myself for the learning experience...

F3600 · 08-25-2004, 05:29 AM

i did my swap all by myself , the only thing someone else did on the car is mod the ignitor chip to make my SOHC tach work with the Rpm signal

aznpoopy · 08-25-2004, 06:52 AM

in my opinion,

you aren't learning shit if you don't do it yourself. if you need your car for a daily driver or can't afford a cheap beater, you shouldn't be swapping out the engine anyway.

Dousan_PG · 08-25-2004, 08:38 AM

me me me me me me
s14 kouki sr in s14 zenki
and lots of other stuff. should be my old car (suspension wise) with a newer (stiffer) chassis and a better motor. schwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Steeles · 08-25-2004, 08:52 AM

aaron ya bastard wheres the new hotness pics!!!

projectRDM · 08-25-2004, 09:01 AM

I look at it this way, people who pay for install either have the money (doubtful with 240 owners), or don't have the knowledge (common with 240 owners). It's highly uncommon to have someone willing to learn, that's why shops stay in business and make good money, yet the work most of them do is nowhere near as good as if someone did it themselves, because it's not their car. That's the sad thing, you pay someone $1500 to put a motor in and they do a complete half ass job.
I actually like the fact that 240 owners don't have any motivation, gives me the opportunity to overcharge too and make easy money. An SR swap from any car to any other car is a 8 hour job, total, unless you get creative and really clean it up. $1000 for 8 hours work isn't bad.

Steeles · 08-25-2004, 09:06 AM

hehe yeah i was glad I just had corey and heyden to do mine. i'd never worked on cars much before that. now the only time a mechanic touches my car is when I take it to brett for oil changes in the winter when I dont wanna be on the ground under the car in the cold trying to change the oil

*HaLo* · 08-25-2004, 10:16 AM

With proper tools, I would do it. Hell, I am rebuilding a blown SR on the side.

Var · 08-25-2004, 10:21 AM

i cheated and bought a semi built race car.

Mr. Badlose · 08-25-2004, 10:50 AM

Did it myself with help from friends.

Good times. Feels rewarding when it cranks to life, and you didn't pay some shop a grip of cash to install it.

Pepperoni · 08-25-2004, 01:15 PM

Did it myself; the wiring process isn't as hard as some people make it out to be. Patience patience patience! It's the little things that slow you down and confuse you during the swap.

rizzle · 08-25-2004, 02:06 PM

personally I don't have the room or time to do it so I'm going to have to end up taking it to a shop. I do all other work myself suspension, tuneup, etc... sucks :\

SoCalS14 · 08-25-2004, 04:10 PM

Well, seems guys like me are rather under-represented here...Its okay, YEA, I payed Phase2, and I have to say fellas...THE CAR RUNS PERFECT. I mean, no problems whatsoever...thats what I paid for...You have all been in the technical forums, and all I see is "SR in, won't start...OR, Pulling last of hair out, car won't start...runs like shit...etc". Now, granted this may be the first swap these folks have done, and I have to give them that, but I did not have the time nor the resources to do it...I thought about...really seriously, but in the end, I paid 1800 bucks, and have a perfectly running SR...THANK YOU PHASE2!

However, I have done all other work on my ride, Z32 brake swap (Front & Rear), suspension...etc...no problems...

v0va · 08-25-2004, 08:59 PM

i have roooms for it, i have tools, ill have all summer to do it, i have semi experienced friends with car knowledge, i have a little bit, i know stuff but i dont have hands on experiences, do you guys think i should attepmt to do an rb swap in my garage with ym friends

nightwalker · 08-25-2004, 09:08 PM

dam you guys get $1000 for a SR swap? is that redtop into S13 or what? most people down here only get $700. Over here is California btw.

Mr. Badlose · 08-26-2004, 10:29 AM

$1800 for an install? Wow, I need to open a shop.

That sucks that you had no where to do it, SoCalS14.

Andrew Bohan · 08-26-2004, 10:40 AM

my car sat for a month before i had a place to do my swap. then my co-worker had pity and let me do it in her garage.

BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!! (for her not me)

Pepperoni · 08-26-2004, 01:22 PM

holy crap, $1800 for installing a motor? WOAH i think i found a new business to get into

i didnt realize people were willing to pay that much. I installed my motor and it's running perfectly. I figure it's my project car, ILL do it. Unless of course i didnt have the space. Time isnt an excuse, since thats what project cars require

andrave · 08-26-2004, 06:15 PM

I swapped one ka for another myself.
doesn't start yet though.

mixedwell · 08-26-2004, 09:57 PM

Well.... I've been doing all sorts of swaps for a while now, mostly Hondas and Nissans. But the crappy thing was.. when i started on my car, lots of shit went wrong. Anyhoo.... yeah i did it myself. Pretty much worth it. Saves lots of money and is easier than most people think. The hardest part is cleaning up the damn engine bay and probably getting everything at a good price. piece of cake.

-mixedwell

accordexl · 08-27-2004, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Badlose

$1800 for an install? Wow, I need to open a shop.

That sucks that you had no where to do it, SoCalS14.

Sure thing!!!.. let's see what kinda of job that you can do.

mjjstang · 08-27-2004, 07:31 PM

im doing it myself, Finding that im running in to tons and tons of problems, but hey who cares, half the fun is doing it yourself and learning things.

andrave · 08-27-2004, 08:55 PM

unless its your only car and youre moving 2000 miles away in a week.

08-24-2004, 10:03 PM	#1
import_racer87 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did you install? or have it installed for you? SR, RB, CA , whatever engine you put in your car, did you take the time to do it yourself? or did you pay a professional? If you did do it yourself did you have much experience beforehand or did you just kinda wing it and made it your first big project?

08-24-2004, 11:34 PM	#2
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	easy as pie. Just do it. NIKE. actually baking pie is a lot harder than swapping an engine. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

08-25-2004, 08:38 AM	#9
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	me me me me me me s14 kouki sr in s14 zenki and lots of other stuff. should be my old car (suspension wise) with a newer (stiffer) chassis and a better motor. schwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-25-2004, 08:52 AM	#10
Steeles Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger Age: 48 Posts: 3,785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	aaron ya bastard wheres the new hotness pics!!! __________________ Keeping it Godzira bishes. So I murdered another turbo

08-25-2004, 09:01 AM	#11
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I look at it this way, people who pay for install either have the money (doubtful with 240 owners), or don't have the knowledge (common with 240 owners). It's highly uncommon to have someone willing to learn, that's why shops stay in business and make good money, yet the work most of them do is nowhere near as good as if someone did it themselves, because it's not their car. That's the sad thing, you pay someone $1500 to put a motor in and they do a complete half ass job. I actually like the fact that 240 owners don't have any motivation, gives me the opportunity to overcharge too and make easy money. An SR swap from any car to any other car is a 8 hour job, total, unless you get creative and really clean it up. $1000 for 8 hours work isn't bad. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

08-25-2004, 12:21 AM	#3
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sometimes it's really deceiving when you hear that a certain car task is easy. There are so many different levels of competence here on zilvia and i think a lot of people forget that. After a lot of experiences as a first-timer on a lot of installs, whenever I read something like "a half an hour job" I end up taking 1 or 2 hours on it. its pretty frustrating sometimes, i'm probably just slow too.

08-25-2004, 12:35 AM	#4
silviasichigo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Japan Age: 49 Posts: 782 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: silviasichigo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well I guess I can say that I really did not install it all my self since it came stok to the car but I have re-built it twice already once back to stock and then the second time everything forged. It is really easy if you: 1. Take your time, 2. Have the FSM (factory service manual) for both cars if possible. 3. Have some friends there to help out thoes little things will make it go as easy as possible ( there will always be rusty bolts or mis threaded nuts) but take your time and it will go alot easier than most people think. It is a matter of getting past that fear of.....Damn am I going to take it apart and will I beable to put it back together in your mind.

08-25-2004, 01:22 AM	#5
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i've spent 77 hours so far pulling my old KA and rebuilding and installing another one. still not done yet haha

08-25-2004, 03:03 AM	#6
evilimport Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Psycho Ward Posts: 778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I bought my 240sx with the SR already installed, but Im planning on buying a S13 and another SR to do myself for the learning experience...

08-25-2004, 05:29 AM	#7
F3600 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i did my swap all by myself , the only thing someone else did on the car is mod the ignitor chip to make my SOHC tach work with the Rpm signal

08-25-2004, 06:52 AM	#8
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	in my opinion, you aren't learning shit if you don't do it yourself. if you need your car for a daily driver or can't afford a cheap beater, you shouldn't be swapping out the engine anyway.

08-25-2004, 09:06 AM	#12
Steeles Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger Age: 48 Posts: 3,785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hehe yeah i was glad I just had corey and heyden to do mine. i'd never worked on cars much before that. now the only time a mechanic touches my car is when I take it to brett for oil changes in the winter when I dont wanna be on the ground under the car in the cold trying to change the oil __________________ Keeping it Godzira bishes. So I murdered another turbo

08-25-2004, 10:16 AM	#13
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	With proper tools, I would do it. Hell, I am rebuilding a blown SR on the side. __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

08-25-2004, 10:21 AM	#14
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i cheated and bought a semi built race car. __________________ Hi

08-25-2004, 10:50 AM	#15
Mr. Badlose Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did it myself with help from friends. Good times. Feels rewarding when it cranks to life, and you didn't pay some shop a grip of cash to install it.

08-25-2004, 01:15 PM	#16
Pepperoni Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: norcal Posts: 750 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did it myself; the wiring process isn't as hard as some people make it out to be. Patience patience patience! It's the little things that slow you down and confuse you during the swap. __________________ Turbo piping, Intakes and More: http://www.pipingpro.com

08-25-2004, 02:06 PM	#17
rizzle BANNED Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 72 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	personally I don't have the room or time to do it so I'm going to have to end up taking it to a shop. I do all other work myself suspension, tuneup, etc... sucks :\

08-25-2004, 04:10 PM	#18
SoCalS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, seems guys like me are rather under-represented here...Its okay, YEA, I payed Phase2, and I have to say fellas...THE CAR RUNS PERFECT. I mean, no problems whatsoever...thats what I paid for...You have all been in the technical forums, and all I see is "SR in, won't start...OR, Pulling last of hair out, car won't start...runs like shit...etc". Now, granted this may be the first swap these folks have done, and I have to give them that, but I did not have the time nor the resources to do it...I thought about...really seriously, but in the end, I paid 1800 bucks, and have a perfectly running SR...THANK YOU PHASE2! However, I have done all other work on my ride, Z32 brake swap (Front & Rear), suspension...etc...no problems... __________________ S14 Zenki...SOLD!! New Project: 240Z w/ SR

08-25-2004, 08:59 PM	#19
v0va Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have roooms for it, i have tools, ill have all summer to do it, i have semi experienced friends with car knowledge, i have a little bit, i know stuff but i dont have hands on experiences, do you guys think i should attepmt to do an rb swap in my garage with ym friends

08-25-2004, 09:08 PM	#20
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dam you guys get $1000 for a SR swap? is that redtop into S13 or what? most people down here only get $700. Over here is California btw. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

08-26-2004, 10:29 AM	#21
Mr. Badlose Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$1800 for an install? Wow, I need to open a shop. That sucks that you had no where to do it, SoCalS14.

08-26-2004, 10:40 AM	#22
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	my car sat for a month before i had a place to do my swap. then my co-worker had pity and let me do it in her garage. BIG MISTAKE!!!!!!! (for her not me)

08-26-2004, 01:22 PM	#23
Pepperoni Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: norcal Posts: 750 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	holy crap, $1800 for installing a motor? WOAH i think i found a new business to get into i didnt realize people were willing to pay that much. I installed my motor and it's running perfectly. I figure it's my project car, ILL do it. Unless of course i didnt have the space. Time isnt an excuse, since thats what project cars require __________________ Turbo piping, Intakes and More: http://www.pipingpro.com

08-26-2004, 06:15 PM	#24
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I swapped one ka for another myself. doesn't start yet though.

08-26-2004, 09:57 PM	#25
mixedwell Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SOuth Cali Posts: 892 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well.... I've been doing all sorts of swaps for a while now, mostly Hondas and Nissans. But the crappy thing was.. when i started on my car, lots of shit went wrong. Anyhoo.... yeah i did it myself. Pretty much worth it. Saves lots of money and is easier than most people think. The hardest part is cleaning up the damn engine bay and probably getting everything at a good price. piece of cake. -mixedwell __________________ silvia... my love ::

08-27-2004, 07:31 PM	#27
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	im doing it myself, Finding that im running in to tons and tons of problems, but hey who cares, half the fun is doing it yourself and learning things. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

08-27-2004, 08:55 PM	#28
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	unless its your only car and youre moving 2000 miles away in a week.