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ThatRicerDaniel · 10-12-2004, 09:03 PM

any suggestions on sites to check out roll cages, all I could really find was the cusco and the autopower but couldent even find prices on the autopower. i have a s14. thanks.

**ThatGuy** · 10-12-2004, 09:09 PM

www.ioportracing.com

AKADriver · 10-12-2004, 09:23 PM

Autopower, or Kirk racing.

"JDM" roll bars aren't designed around US sanctioning bodies and cost more. So why bother?

ThatRicerDaniel · 10-12-2004, 10:28 PM

ioport is autopower.

Quote:

"JDM" roll bars aren't designed around US sanctioning bodies and cost more. So why bother?

I dont know what you mean.

Drunk Bastard · 10-12-2004, 10:35 PM

basically, the walling on the cusco cage is too thin...therefore illegal for US sanctioned competitions. examples of event that dont allow cusco cages: D1 Grand Prix and Formula D. Autopower, however, is legit. Just get a autopower.

that180guy · 10-12-2004, 11:40 PM

theres a shop in sac that does custom work, i fergot the name. search under heartworks postings.....he said somthing about them

TK · 10-12-2004, 11:44 PM

Art Morrison yo!

www.artmorrison.com/

KiDyNomiTe · 10-12-2004, 11:46 PM

go custom cage

AKADriver · 10-13-2004, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TK

Art Morrison yo!

www.artmorrison.com/

Well-made stuff, but designed for drag racing... just FYI.

AutoRnD · 10-13-2004, 10:23 AM

that is funny how cusco and safety 21 are supposedly illegal for d1 and such.. but low and behold look at some of the cars running in d1 and they are using cusco.. go figure

Ian · 10-13-2004, 10:39 AM

maybe they're custom cusco cages lol

MikeDeuce · 10-13-2004, 11:29 AM

If you go autopower, make sure you check the fit of someone else running one. I have the 4pt "race" roll bar in my 86 and I'm not thrilled with the fit... it's beefy and I feel confident on the track, but I wouldn't mind if the main hoop was 3" higher (pretty much my only beef with it). They probably wanted it to fit the sunroof models well :\

I ordered from ioportracing... excellent service.

RBS14 · 10-13-2004, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by that180guy

theres a shop in sac that does custom work, i fergot the name. search under heartworks postings.....he said somthing about them

I think you might mean me........ I had mine bent up at this place in sac:

www.cachassisworks.com

FRpilot · 10-13-2004, 12:13 PM

how is it and how much did it cost you?

*sykikchimp* · 10-13-2004, 01:12 PM

Custom cages will run from $400 for basic roll bars to $2000 for 8-point race ready cages. It all depends on the builder.

Custom is the way to go. Fit will always be better, and you can get it done any way you want.

TK · 10-13-2004, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKADriver

Well-made stuff, but designed for drag racing... just FYI.

he never stated what kind of racing he would be doing so i threw AME up..

that180guy · 10-13-2004, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBS14

I think you might mean me........ I had mine bent up at this place in sac:

www.cachassisworks.com

umm...cant remember....i think there's another shop...but then i could be wrong.....its all those blows to my head man...im slow and have bad memory

msaskin · 10-13-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ard josh

that is funny how cusco and safety 21 are supposedly illegal for d1 and such.. but low and behold look at some of the cars running in d1 and they are using cusco.. go figure

It's called Cusco sponsors D1 events, so D1 lets drivers go with the cusco cages. That doesn't change the fact that any cage that bolts together is a complete joke.

Real US Racing sanctioning bodies (read: SCCA, NASA, etc...) will not recognize cusco/safety21 cages due to the bolt together design and improper material (tube walls too thin)

~matt

ThatRicerDaniel · 10-13-2004, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBS14

I think you might mean me........ I had mine bent up at this place in sac:

www.cachassisworks.com

Was this done in a s14? did you go with a cage or a bar? do you have a sunroof?

blu808 · 10-13-2004, 06:31 PM

rbs14s cage looks to be a nice fit. However he needed to cut the legs on the hoop for desired fit, and cut and weld all the other tubes.

Cusco cages are a joke. They are not even close to the wall thickness req for scca, or nasa pro racing. Us drift allowed (tolerated) them this year, but not next year. Auto power is the most cost efective from what i have noticed.

*revat619* · 10-13-2004, 10:36 PM

Does autopower have an s14 with sunroof application? I looked on that ioportracing site but i didnt see anything that specified sunroof or not.

khoadogg · 10-14-2004, 12:02 AM

yeah, autopower all the way! too bad that cross bar gets in the way for real passengers, than again, it's not a taxi!

TRUENOCOUPE · 10-14-2004, 02:35 AM

Evolution Motorsport does great work. They are located in Sacramento and their website is www.em-racing.com

Example.

-Al

TRUENOCOUPE · 10-14-2004, 02:39 AM

Too lazy to resize.

Heartwork · 10-14-2004, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by that180guy

umm...cant remember....i think there's another shop...but then i could be wrong.....its all those blows to my head man...im slow and have bad memory

www.cachassisworks.com
yea, thats the one i suggested....
i personally havent tried or seen an S14 application yet...but the muscle car people/friends that i know have them and say nothing but great things from them... You'd have to give them the dimensions of your cage though if u want one done by them, unless they have it on file and not updated their website

there is also http://www.tcdesignfab.com/ next to Gorgeous Garage in Milpitas...
superb work, but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Rownan · 10-14-2004, 11:26 AM

I am about to get an autopower 4 point for my S14, the diagonal crossbrace should be included right? I will be tracking the car, SCCA/drift events. I read somewhere that sanctioned bodies require the crossbrace.

Andrew Bohan · 10-14-2004, 11:58 AM

okay so autopower offers an optional removable diagonal. does the fact that it's not welded to the main hoop make it pretty much worthless? or is it still legal for events?

RBS14 · 10-14-2004, 12:05 PM

I had a full 8pt bent up by ca chassis works, but I only did the hoop and rear support bars making it a roll bar. I was too lazy to put the rest in. I took all the measurements and they bent it up for me. I've still got the spec sheet, I can send it to someone if they want to have them bend one up for them. I had the front A pillar bars bent to go through the dash air vents too, it would've been sweet. All their stuff is mandrel bent too, so it's REALLY strong. They won't install it in your car for you though. The only people who should think about having them do it are those of you with fabrication skills and tools. grinders, chop saws, welders etc.

TRUENOCOUPE · 10-14-2004, 02:04 PM

Is S13 and S14 the same on the inside?

not sure but I know Technosquare makes a bolt on cage with sidebars for cheap.

Very close to roof and panels. Check it out.
http://www.club4ag.com/Technosquare/TechnoSquare.htm

Andrew Bohan · 10-14-2004, 02:10 PM

s13 and s14 are not the same

10-12-2004, 09:03 PM	#1
ThatRicerDaniel Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cali/NV Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	roll cage suggestions? any suggestions on sites to check out roll cages, all I could really find was the cusco and the autopower but couldent even find prices on the autopower. i have a s14. thanks.

10-12-2004, 09:09 PM	#2
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	www.ioportracing.com __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

10-12-2004, 11:40 PM	#6
that180guy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: EaStO BaYo Age: 39 Posts: 968 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theres a shop in sac that does custom work, i fergot the name. search under heartworks postings.....he said somthing about them __________________ LP stylez!! bishes Lazy Penguin since teh 04' Part of the Elite Shasta Speed Stars RIP......05-09-03....sniff sniff the beast nears completion..... YOU LOOK AND U BUY STUFF !!!!!*

10-12-2004, 11:46 PM	#8
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10-13-2004, 10:23 AM	#10
AutoRnD Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF BAY AREA, CA Posts: 2,601 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: AutoRnD Feedback Score: 1 reviews	that is funny how cusco and safety 21 are supposedly illegal for d1 and such.. but low and behold look at some of the cars running in d1 and they are using cusco.. go figure __________________ www.AutoRnD.com Nardi, Enkei, Stance, AME Master Distributors for USA Check Out Our Facebook!

10-12-2004, 09:23 PM	#3
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Autopower, or Kirk racing. "JDM" roll bars aren't designed around US sanctioning bodies and cost more. So why bother?

10-12-2004, 10:35 PM	#5
Drunk Bastard Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,405 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	basically, the walling on the cusco cage is too thin...therefore illegal for US sanctioned competitions. examples of event that dont allow cusco cages: D1 Grand Prix and Formula D. Autopower, however, is legit. Just get a autopower.

10-12-2004, 11:44 PM	#7
TK Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: socal Age: 44 Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Art Morrison yo! www.artmorrison.com/

10-13-2004, 10:39 AM	#11
Ian Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: i'm gonna get INSIDE your face Age: 38 Posts: 3,658 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	maybe they're custom cusco cages lol

10-13-2004, 11:29 AM	#12
MikeDeuce Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ghetto Posts: 227 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you go autopower, make sure you check the fit of someone else running one. I have the 4pt "race" roll bar in my 86 and I'm not thrilled with the fit... it's beefy and I feel confident on the track, but I wouldn't mind if the main hoop was 3" higher (pretty much my only beef with it). They probably wanted it to fit the sunroof models well :\ I ordered from ioportracing... excellent service. __________________

10-13-2004, 01:12 PM	#15
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Custom cages will run from $400 for basic roll bars to $2000 for 8-point race ready cages. It all depends on the builder. Custom is the way to go. Fit will always be better, and you can get it done any way you want.

10-13-2004, 06:31 PM	#20
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 42 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	rbs14s cage looks to be a nice fit. However he needed to cut the legs on the hoop for desired fit, and cut and weld all the other tubes. Cusco cages are a joke. They are not even close to the wall thickness req for scca, or nasa pro racing. Us drift allowed (tolerated) them this year, but not next year. Auto power is the most cost efective from what i have noticed. __________________

10-13-2004, 10:36 PM	#21
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Does autopower have an s14 with sunroof application? I looked on that ioportracing site but i didnt see anything that specified sunroof or not. __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

10-14-2004, 12:02 AM	#22
khoadogg Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 41 Posts: 2,423 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	yeah, autopower all the way! too bad that cross bar gets in the way for real passengers, than again, it's not a taxi! __________________ AIM SoarinStrong[B]STRONG 6iX[B] RB single turbo ///Work AMKREAD 180sx

10-14-2004, 02:35 AM	#23
TRUENOCOUPE Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norcal Drift Division Age: 42 Posts: 1,642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Evolution Motorsport does great work. They are located in Sacramento and their website is www.em-racing.com Example. -Al __________________ DRIFTxBATTLE IS GONE \| MYSPACE \| NORCAL DRIFT \| ZipTied Tee's

10-14-2004, 02:39 AM	#24
TRUENOCOUPE Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norcal Drift Division Age: 42 Posts: 1,642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Too lazy to resize. __________________ DRIFTxBATTLE IS GONE \| MYSPACE \| NORCAL DRIFT \| ZipTied Tee's

10-14-2004, 11:26 AM	#26
Rownan Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Waterford, MI Age: 43 Posts: 133 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am about to get an autopower 4 point for my S14, the diagonal crossbrace should be included right? I will be tracking the car, SCCA/drift events. I read somewhere that sanctioned bodies require the crossbrace.

10-14-2004, 11:58 AM	#27
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	okay so autopower offers an optional removable diagonal. does the fact that it's not welded to the main hoop make it pretty much worthless? or is it still legal for events?

10-14-2004, 12:05 PM	#28
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had a full 8pt bent up by ca chassis works, but I only did the hoop and rear support bars making it a roll bar. I was too lazy to put the rest in. I took all the measurements and they bent it up for me. I've still got the spec sheet, I can send it to someone if they want to have them bend one up for them. I had the front A pillar bars bent to go through the dash air vents too, it would've been sweet. All their stuff is mandrel bent too, so it's REALLY strong. They won't install it in your car for you though. The only people who should think about having them do it are those of you with fabrication skills and tools. grinders, chop saws, welders etc. __________________

10-14-2004, 02:04 PM	#29
TRUENOCOUPE Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norcal Drift Division Age: 42 Posts: 1,642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is S13 and S14 the same on the inside? not sure but I know Technosquare makes a bolt on cage with sidebars for cheap. Very close to roof and panels. Check it out. http://www.club4ag.com/Technosquare/TechnoSquare.htm __________________ DRIFTxBATTLE IS GONE \| MYSPACE \| NORCAL DRIFT \| ZipTied Tee's

10-14-2004, 02:10 PM	#30
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	s13 and s14 are not the same