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mbmbmb23 · 03-13-2002, 12:38 AM

Your mom is definately gonna take his side...because she has to live with him..and put up with him after you leave.  Maybe you should have just tried to land one "really sweet and unexpected" punch...instead of throwing him around and giving him time to have someone come in and break it up.  If I were you, I'd get a nice Master Lock and install it on your door(assuming your mom would let you do that).  If you brother is failing school, hes obviously not going to give a crap about you.  If he cannot respect himself (by not being a fuck and flunking school..and getting wasted all the time), then he isnt gonna respect you and your stuff.  If he views you as being the "successful" sibling, then he's gonna try and tear you down...even when you arent there.  He's obviously tried to do that by looking all cool to his buddies by bringing them in there and "marking his territory" with his ashes.  

My advice to you, pack up all your cool stuff..and move it to the attic...and triple tape the boxes with duct tape (people will scavenge your Playboys if you dont pack em up tight).  Then, turn your room into something thats more of a hang out room.....thats easy to clean.  From then on, when you visit home...just sleep on the couch..and forget that room.  If your mom realizes that your brother smokes weed ..and she doesnt kick his ass for smoking that stuff in the house....then you are probably out of luck for her to discipline him at all.  Sounds to me like your mom is scared to act against your brother.

Hope that helps.

M

bing · 03-12-2002, 10:43 PM

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luey02 · 03-12-2002, 10:54 PM

No interest.. lol
So did you get your exhause yet?  My exhause is 2months wait, can you believe it?!  

why havn't u talk to your bro in 4 yrs?? We might have some in common here.  Yo, I'll be in Niagra falls for spring break this weekend, you live around there?  I'll kick yo bro's ass for you.

I can't decide who's right here since I dont know every detail.  But  your bro might say reasons you were wrong to your mother so that's why, just talk to your mother too to get her on your side..

bing · 03-12-2002, 10:56 PM

i got my exhaust today and i'll ahve it on by the weekend.

that is the scoop

i can t beleive the kind of disrespect... to ruin my bedroom like that...

yeah e-mail me when your down, i live there but im away at school, i'll meet up i if can

*DSC* · 03-12-2002, 11:02 PM

Should'a sat down and had some with them.

Err I mean those bastards!
That sucks tho, why haven't you talked to him in soo long?

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Ni5mo180SX · 03-12-2002, 11:35 PM

ha, yea I know how it is when things get like that. sucks, but if you get your mom on your side at least you have some slack.

camppain · 03-13-2002, 12:04 AM

i dont think u where wrong u might have acted outta to much anger but hey thats what i would a done. as far as ur mom kickin u out that is way wrong from what i read based on those details.

and im sorry i always hear bout this from you bing with all sincerity <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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life sucks so does mine in a different way though

Ni5mo180SX · 03-13-2002, 12:16 AM

Dont think of it as life sucking overall. Just dont let it control you or let it seem to over bearing. Id say beating them within an inch of their life might work wonders on getting that cocky asshole smile off their face.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

*AceInHole* · 03-13-2002, 12:24 AM

i'd say screw it.  narc em if you can't beat em up, or at least tell them you will.  if i ever caught one of my cousins doing sh*t like that I'd beat em up, although I already know I can... so it might be different for you....

*Grant* · 03-13-2002, 04:10 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mbmbmb23 @ Mar. 11 2002,02:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your mom is definately gonna take his side...because she has to live with him..and put up with him after you leave. Maybe you should have just tried to land one "really sweet and unexpected" punch...instead of throwing him around and giving him time to have someone come in and break it up. If I were you, I'd get a nice Master Lock and install it on your door(assuming your mom would let you do that). If you brother is failing school, hes obviously not going to give a crap about you. If he cannot respect himself (by not being a fuck and flunking school..and getting wasted all the time), then he isnt gonna respect you and your stuff. If he views you as being the "successful" sibling, then he's gonna try and tear you down...even when you arent there. He's obviously tried to do that by looking all cool to his buddies by bringing them in there and "marking his territory" with his ashes.

My advice to you, pack up all your cool stuff..and move it to the attic...and triple tape the boxes with duct tape (people will scavenge your Playboys if you dont pack em up tight). Then, turn your room into something thats more of a hang out room.....thats easy to clean. From then on, when you visit home...just sleep on the couch..and forget that room. If your mom realizes that your brother smokes weed ..and she doesnt kick his ass for smoking that stuff in the house....then you are probably out of luck for her to discipline him at all. Sounds to me like your mom is scared to act against your brother.

Hope that helps.

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couldnt have said it better myself, I just wonder why your mom doesnt do anything about it or kick your brothers bitchass out of the house.

DuffMan · 03-13-2002, 04:19 AM

Man, your family sounds fucked up. Why not just stay at school or stay at a friend's house near home? Because now that you don't need them (like you did in HS) they are useless to you. I know this sounds cold and harsh, but it's the truth. Yah, they're family but spending time arround them is only going to be a negative influence on you. Just because they're related to you doesnt give them a right to bring you down.

Maybe some day your brother and mom will realize how they royally fucked up and apologize to you. Until that day, I say fuck em.

240sxnewbie · 03-13-2002, 09:27 AM

i guess my other message didn't take..anyway, like i said earlier, let your family be. you're going to school so you can have a better life.  Your brother is probably jealous..cut them off and totally disown your whole family. When they come begging for your help, don't help them. Tell them that they are on their own.  You can't really fight your own blood and since your brother is just a bum, he's not going to care about anything until he matures..by that time, he'll realize (too late) that he screwed up his own life..and by that time, you should be leading your own life without the support of your family...disown them. they'll regret it later.

Coldsun · 03-13-2002, 09:50 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DuffMan @ Mar. 12 2002,05:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man, your family sounds fucked up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LOL hahhahh
well i wouldn't go that far!! but it does sound pretty sucky at the moment.. and 240sxnewbie, the hell kind of advice is that, how old are you.. its one thing for him to not talk to his bro, but i think he is gonna need to work shit out with his family... I mean i know your parents have to have something to do with you being in college (paying or helping or something)

Anyway its like this man... I feel ya... Me and my bro have major beef... he is 21 going on 22 and i'm 19..... last thanksgiving he attacked me, we got into a big fistfight, ON THANKSGIVING, and it was mainly becuz he was mad at some girl... basically.. Me and him dont talk...

Alotta shit your bro does reminds me of mine... We are mad different.. i've smoked before, but it was like only at a party and now i dont do it at all, he smokes every day... he is a idiot and was kicked outta college for a semester (poor grades) and all and all we dont have nothing in common , he only was cool with me when he wanted something...So since i have experience with you in all that, i'll say this... I realized, I dont need my brother... I dont ask him for anything, and i dont talk to him.... If he did what your bro did. i would probably act the same way...thats straight up disrespect. and he aint seem like he cares....

So nah you werent wrong.. What you need to do is tell ya mom you love her, let her know wusup... and be cool... next time you see ya bro dont talk to him, dont even look at him look passed him.... If he does something like this again, you dont even gotta fight him, jus tell him "yo cut the shit" and let ya mom see it and have her talk to him...

Basically man... the truth of life is, There has to be more to family then just having the same blood... My brother was never really my brother... I have brothers in close friends of mine.... Work shit out with your mom becuz she probably is still cool with you, and jus dont know why you came home and fucked your brother up...And as for your bro.. dont let him fuck up your life, your on the right path... you'll show them all when you pull up in a New Skyline in 4 years... and your makin real cash, hahah

yo good luck man
-Sun

whateverjames · 03-13-2002, 10:52 AM

all very good replies but if i would have gotten to it sooner, i would have typed something like duffman's reply. if your brother and mom are going to be like that, you don't need them. i'm not sure how close you are to your other two brothers, but staying away from that one brother and your mom,for good, may be the thing to do, and just go pick up your two little brothers and go somewhere if you want to spend time with them.

bladen · 03-13-2002, 10:58 AM

well, i guess my family isnt as messed up as some, i'd say, wait till your brother is asleep, Beat his ass, and tell your mother he fucking deserved it, because he did, if that would have happened in my parents house, My dad would have been doing the Beatings, not me, and i would have lost it, and i would have kicked the shit out of him, im glad i only have 2 younger sisters, one is to smart for that shit, and the other is to young to worry about that shit, so its all good for right now, but yeah, if i had problems like that, Blood be damned, i'd be for kickin some ass.

bing · 03-13-2002, 11:03 AM

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240sxnewbie · 03-13-2002, 01:39 PM

Coldsun,

"and 240sxnewbie, the hell kind of advice is that, how old are you.. its one thing for him to not talk to his bro, but i think he is gonna need to work shit out with his family... "

Actually, I'm 25 but that isn't the point. I did what I told bing. I had a huge arguement with my TWIN brother when I was 18. Instead of always arguing with my twin, i decided that I didn't need them. I moved to virginia, lived on my own and paid my own way through school.  I'm glad i did that. My brother did need help however, whenever he came to me when he needed help, I told him he had to take care of his own crap.  It was hard to do that to my own blood but he finally learned to grow up and take care of his own responsibilities.

Like i said, the only way to make sure your own things don't get messed up is to own your own place to live. Plus it relieves the stress on your parents since there wouldn't be any complaints about who goes into who's room.

03-13-2002, 12:38 AM	#1
mbmbmb23 Zilvia Contributor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC. Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: mbmbmb23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Your mom is definately gonna take his side...because she has to live with him..and put up with him after you leave.  Maybe you should have just tried to land one "really sweet and unexpected" punch...instead of throwing him around and giving him time to have someone come in and break it up.  If I were you, I'd get a nice Master Lock and install it on your door(assuming your mom would let you do that).  If you brother is failing school, hes obviously not going to give a crap about you.  If he cannot respect himself (by not being a fuck and flunking school..and getting wasted all the time), then he isnt gonna respect you and your stuff.  If he views you as being the "successful" sibling, then he's gonna try and tear you down...even when you arent there.  He's obviously tried to do that by looking all cool to his buddies by bringing them in there and "marking his territory" with his ashes.   My advice to you, pack up all your cool stuff..and move it to the attic...and triple tape the boxes with duct tape (people will scavenge your Playboys if you dont pack em up tight).  Then, turn your room into something thats more of a hang out room.....thats easy to clean.  From then on, when you visit home...just sleep on the couch..and forget that room.  If your mom realizes that your brother smokes weed ..and she doesnt kick his ass for smoking that stuff in the house....then you are probably out of luck for her to discipline him at all.  Sounds to me like your mom is scared to act against your brother. Hope that helps. M __________________ 400x200

03-12-2002, 10:43 PM	#2
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	. . . . __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com Last edited by bing; 03-02-2012 at 08:31 PM..

03-12-2002, 10:54 PM	#3
luey02 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 519 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No interest.. lol So did you get your exhause yet?  My exhause is 2months wait, can you believe it?!   why havn't u talk to your bro in 4 yrs?? We might have some in common here.  Yo, I'll be in Niagra falls for spring break this weekend, you live around there?  I'll kick yo bro's ass for you. I can't decide who's right here since I dont know every detail.  But  your bro might say reasons you were wrong to your mother so that's why, just talk to your mother too to get her on your side.. __________________ K. Lu

03-12-2002, 10:56 PM	#4
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	i got my exhaust today and i'll ahve it on by the weekend. that is the scoop i can t beleive the kind of disrespect... to ruin my bedroom like that... yeah e-mail me when your down, i live there but im away at school, i'll meet up i if can __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com

03-12-2002, 11:02 PM	#5
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Should'a sat down and had some with them. Err I mean those bastards! That sucks tho, why haven't you talked to him in soo long? __________________

03-12-2002, 11:06 PM	#6
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	. . . . __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com Last edited by bing; 03-02-2012 at 08:32 PM..

03-12-2002, 11:35 PM	#7
Ni5mo180SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orange County Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ha, yea I know how it is when things get like that. sucks, but if you get your mom on your side at least you have some slack. __________________ Mazda RX-7 FC3S: Jspec motor, ported turbo & wastegate, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Mazdatrix adj. rear camber link, TB mod, Koyo 53mm Radiator, Corksport Cat back/midpipe/downipe, 3" Al TID, Apex'i air cleaner, Mazda Comp. mission/motor/differential mounts, Mazdaspeed Strut Bar(R), FD torsen differential, HKS SSQV, HKS elec. boost gauge & elec water temp, Cusco Oil catch, 680cc secondary's, Walbro 255, Banzai Racing FCD, RB DTSS Eliminator bushings, Exedy Clutch & PP, Exedy chrome moly flywheel, RB oil baffle, RB dual alt. pulley, 5 lug conversion, FC3S.org thermal bypass pellet, KVR Cross drilled rotors, complete Energy PU bushings, stainless steel brake lines/clutch line, Aerodyne shroud panel, Azenis RS, and some other stuff. A hybrid of sorts I guess

03-13-2002, 12:04 AM	#8
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont think u where wrong u might have acted outta to much anger but hey thats what i would a done. as far as ur mom kickin u out that is way wrong from what i read based on those details. and im sorry i always hear bout this from you bing with all sincerity <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> life sucks so does mine in a different way though __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

03-13-2002, 12:16 AM	#9
Ni5mo180SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orange County Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dont think of it as life sucking overall. Just dont let it control you or let it seem to over bearing. Id say beating them within an inch of their life might work wonders on getting that cocky asshole smile off their face.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ Mazda RX-7 FC3S: Jspec motor, ported turbo & wastegate, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Mazdatrix adj. rear camber link, TB mod, Koyo 53mm Radiator, Corksport Cat back/midpipe/downipe, 3" Al TID, Apex'i air cleaner, Mazda Comp. mission/motor/differential mounts, Mazdaspeed Strut Bar(R), FD torsen differential, HKS SSQV, HKS elec. boost gauge & elec water temp, Cusco Oil catch, 680cc secondary's, Walbro 255, Banzai Racing FCD, RB DTSS Eliminator bushings, Exedy Clutch & PP, Exedy chrome moly flywheel, RB oil baffle, RB dual alt. pulley, 5 lug conversion, FC3S.org thermal bypass pellet, KVR Cross drilled rotors, complete Energy PU bushings, stainless steel brake lines/clutch line, Aerodyne shroud panel, Azenis RS, and some other stuff. A hybrid of sorts I guess

03-13-2002, 12:24 AM	#10
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'd say screw it.  narc em if you can't beat em up, or at least tell them you will.  if i ever caught one of my cousins doing sh*t like that I'd beat em up, although I already know I can... so it might be different for you.... __________________

03-13-2002, 04:10 AM	#11
Grant Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 聖地牙哥 Posts: 2,647 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Grant Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mbmbmb23 @ Mar. 11 2002,02:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your mom is definately gonna take his side...because she has to live with him..and put up with him after you leave. Maybe you should have just tried to land one "really sweet and unexpected" punch...instead of throwing him around and giving him time to have someone come in and break it up. If I were you, I'd get a nice Master Lock and install it on your door(assuming your mom would let you do that). If you brother is failing school, hes obviously not going to give a crap about you. If he cannot respect himself (by not being a fuck and flunking school..and getting wasted all the time), then he isnt gonna respect you and your stuff. If he views you as being the "successful" sibling, then he's gonna try and tear you down...even when you arent there. He's obviously tried to do that by looking all cool to his buddies by bringing them in there and "marking his territory" with his ashes. My advice to you, pack up all your cool stuff..and move it to the attic...and triple tape the boxes with duct tape (people will scavenge your Playboys if you dont pack em up tight). Then, turn your room into something thats more of a hang out room.....thats easy to clean. From then on, when you visit home...just sleep on the couch..and forget that room. If your mom realizes that your brother smokes weed ..and she doesnt kick his ass for smoking that stuff in the house....then you are probably out of luck for her to discipline him at all. Sounds to me like your mom is scared to act against your brother. Hope that helps. M</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> couldnt have said it better myself, I just wonder why your mom doesnt do anything about it or kick your brothers bitchass out of the house.

03-13-2002, 04:19 AM	#12
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man, your family sounds fucked up. Why not just stay at school or stay at a friend's house near home? Because now that you don't need them (like you did in HS) they are useless to you. I know this sounds cold and harsh, but it's the truth. Yah, they're family but spending time arround them is only going to be a negative influence on you. Just because they're related to you doesnt give them a right to bring you down. Maybe some day your brother and mom will realize how they royally fucked up and apologize to you. Until that day, I say fuck em.

03-13-2002, 09:27 AM	#13
240sxnewbie Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i guess my other message didn't take..anyway, like i said earlier, let your family be. you're going to school so you can have a better life.  Your brother is probably jealous..cut them off and totally disown your whole family. When they come begging for your help, don't help them. Tell them that they are on their own.  You can't really fight your own blood and since your brother is just a bum, he's not going to care about anything until he matures..by that time, he'll realize (too late) that he screwed up his own life..and by that time, you should be leading your own life without the support of your family...disown them. they'll regret it later.

03-13-2002, 09:50 AM	#14
Coldsun Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 224 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DuffMan @ Mar. 12 2002,05:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man, your family sounds fucked up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> LOL hahhahh well i wouldn't go that far!! but it does sound pretty sucky at the moment.. and 240sxnewbie, the hell kind of advice is that, how old are you.. its one thing for him to not talk to his bro, but i think he is gonna need to work shit out with his family... I mean i know your parents have to have something to do with you being in college (paying or helping or something) Anyway its like this man... I feel ya... Me and my bro have major beef... he is 21 going on 22 and i'm 19..... last thanksgiving he attacked me, we got into a big fistfight, ON THANKSGIVING, and it was mainly becuz he was mad at some girl... basically.. Me and him dont talk... Alotta shit your bro does reminds me of mine... We are mad different.. i've smoked before, but it was like only at a party and now i dont do it at all, he smokes every day... he is a idiot and was kicked outta college for a semester (poor grades) and all and all we dont have nothing in common , he only was cool with me when he wanted something...So since i have experience with you in all that, i'll say this... I realized, I dont need my brother... I dont ask him for anything, and i dont talk to him.... If he did what your bro did. i would probably act the same way...thats straight up disrespect. and he aint seem like he cares.... So nah you werent wrong.. What you need to do is tell ya mom you love her, let her know wusup... and be cool... next time you see ya bro dont talk to him, dont even look at him look passed him.... If he does something like this again, you dont even gotta fight him, jus tell him "yo cut the shit" and let ya mom see it and have her talk to him... Basically man... the truth of life is, There has to be more to family then just having the same blood... My brother was never really my brother... I have brothers in close friends of mine.... Work shit out with your mom becuz she probably is still cool with you, and jus dont know why you came home and fucked your brother up...And as for your bro.. dont let him fuck up your life, your on the right path... you'll show them all when you pull up in a New Skyline in 4 years... and your makin real cash, hahah yo good luck man -Sun __________________ Coldsun - The Honda Boy of the Forum                                        I Love Cars, thats why i'm here

03-13-2002, 10:52 AM	#15
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all very good replies but if i would have gotten to it sooner, i would have typed something like duffman's reply. if your brother and mom are going to be like that, you don't need them. i'm not sure how close you are to your other two brothers, but staying away from that one brother and your mom,for good, may be the thing to do, and just go pick up your two little brothers and go somewhere if you want to spend time with them. __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

03-13-2002, 10:58 AM	#16
bladen Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 110 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well, i guess my family isnt as messed up as some, i'd say, wait till your brother is asleep, Beat his ass, and tell your mother he fucking deserved it, because he did, if that would have happened in my parents house, My dad would have been doing the Beatings, not me, and i would have lost it, and i would have kicked the shit out of him, im glad i only have 2 younger sisters, one is to smart for that shit, and the other is to young to worry about that shit, so its all good for right now, but yeah, if i had problems like that, Blood be damned, i'd be for kickin some ass. __________________ Attention, The Human Race has been Canceled due to rain, we now join the regularly scheduled program already in progress.

03-13-2002, 11:03 AM	#17
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	. . . . __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com Last edited by bing; 03-02-2012 at 08:35 PM..

03-13-2002, 01:39 PM	#18
240sxnewbie Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Coldsun, "and 240sxnewbie, the hell kind of advice is that, how old are you.. its one thing for him to not talk to his bro, but i think he is gonna need to work shit out with his family... " Actually, I'm 25 but that isn't the point. I did what I told bing. I had a huge arguement with my TWIN brother when I was 18. Instead of always arguing with my twin, i decided that I didn't need them. I moved to virginia, lived on my own and paid my own way through school.  I'm glad i did that. My brother did need help however, whenever he came to me when he needed help, I told him he had to take care of his own crap.  It was hard to do that to my own blood but he finally learned to grow up and take care of his own responsibilities. Like i said, the only way to make sure your own things don't get messed up is to own your own place to live. Plus it relieves the stress on your parents since there wouldn't be any complaints about who goes into who's room.