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WILDACEX187 · 12-20-2004, 01:00 AM

as title says. if u had the choice of a C's or a bnm which would u choose for daily driving? which is smother, easier on synchros and wat not. also does a C's thats made for a s14 sr work on a KA? most likely yea but i wanna make sure.

twong85 · 12-20-2004, 04:19 AM

Any shifter that works for the sr will work for the ka. Neither shifter will be smooth like the stock shifter. No experience with the B&M but I've heard its much notchier than the C's.

kandyflip445 · 12-20-2004, 06:41 AM

The Nismo will be more smooth than the stock one and will be a VERY little bit shorter. That's why they call it a "solid shifter". I'm gonna go with the B&M when I get around to it. Everyone I've talked to has liked it.

orion::S14 · 12-20-2004, 07:24 AM

C's / Pilot / SRR / OBX = Shorter shifts, feels like how it should have come from the factory.

B&M = Just awesome. With a stock shift knob, it's great. Put on a lighter, shorter knob...and it feels notchy IMO. I ditched my GREX knob in favor of the stock one and am much happier with the B&M...the extra inch of height (plus the weight) gives just enough extra leverage to make a difference.

I've owned both kinds...and the B&M is better...but I still dunno if it's $150 better ($75 vs $225).

My .02 - Brian

thx247 · 12-20-2004, 09:02 AM

Seeing as how I've only had to buy one shifter, and its never cause me a problem, and I like the throw more than the other shifters on the market, the extra $150 is negligible over time.

B+M.

s13Dr1ft · 12-20-2004, 10:45 AM

Ive driven quite a few cars with B&M, ive felt drastic changes in how fast and smooth i can shift with it. The damn things re so strong as well and loved be be brutally thrown into gear. B&M have been around for quite some time and I have never nor anyone i know had problems with them.

Nismo- Also very good, it felt very strong and smooth as well. but for the money id say go with B&M

89s132b · 12-20-2004, 10:48 AM

I love my B&M. I wouldn't call it notchy... more of a positive clack just to loet you know that "yes, you are in gear" Miss-shifts are a thing of the past.

Most people are happy with their OBX shifters as well.

FRpilot · 12-20-2004, 11:05 AM

Cs is discontinued. bm is a better shifter from what i hear but Cs is jdm mad tyte yo..
bm is about 40-50% shorter and more solid while cs is about 25-35% shorter. depends on how short and solid you want your shifter to be..

oh yea, one more think. my friend said the newer model Cs shifter puts wear on your synchros and ruins the transmission. the best bet is to find an older model Cs shifter which is going to be even harder since Cs is discontinued.

good luck. cheers, kenny.

240Driver39 · 12-20-2004, 12:00 PM

B&M.

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WILDACEX187 · 12-20-2004, 02:33 PM

bnm it is. i have a nismo leather shift knob. will i experience alot of vibrating up top of my rpms?

AutoRnD · 12-20-2004, 03:21 PM

eh.. who cares..!!!
if you are in high rev's with your motor your least concern should be oh my... the shift knob is rattling.. i would be more concerned about the task at hand. The bnm shifter is most likely one of the best shifters on the market today. The rattle honestly only happens at around redline.. So to me its more of a shift indicator than an actual hassle.

kandyflip445 · 12-20-2004, 04:40 PM

If you search you can find how to fix the rattle too.

mr_240sx · 12-20-2004, 06:25 PM

i have a b&m shifter and absolutely love it!!!

Whiplash Willy · 12-20-2004, 08:39 PM

I have a B&M and it rattles like crazy at most all rpms, even after trying the mods to fix it. It rattles with stock, Nismo GT and Dildo knob. It doesn't rattle at high rpms though, just 2000-4500. Not worth it in my opinion. It sounds like poop, annoying as hell.

JaeTea · 12-20-2004, 09:26 PM

I have an OBX and the thing was ABSOLUTE CRAP without a weighted shift knob!!

I bought a counterweighted Greddy and it helped alot. Shifts much smoother now.

Also I dont' know how the BnM installs but if its the same as the OBX one be sure to replace that plastic shift bushing thing down there.

[GoaTSLonG] · 12-20-2004, 10:57 PM

b&m i've never felt a shifter quite as amazing as the b&m in my car

HyperTek · 12-20-2004, 11:15 PM

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WILDACEX187 · 12-20-2004, 11:22 PM

wat kind of knobs are u bnm people running? stock?

WILDACEX187 · 12-20-2004, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

try the ebay knock offs!! super cheap.. im debating to get one.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6755

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wow thats cheap, but im getting a deal from a friend for 100 bux for a barely used one. thanx

12-20-2004, 01:00 AM	#1
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 42 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	C's or BnM which is betta for street? as title says. if u had the choice of a C's or a bnm which would u choose for daily driving? which is smother, easier on synchros and wat not. also does a C's thats made for a s14 sr work on a KA? most likely yea but i wanna make sure. __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

12-20-2004, 06:41 AM	#3
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The Nismo will be more smooth than the stock one and will be a VERY little bit shorter. That's why they call it a "solid shifter". I'm gonna go with the B&M when I get around to it. Everyone I've talked to has liked it. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

12-20-2004, 07:24 AM	#4
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	C's / Pilot / SRR / OBX = Shorter shifts, feels like how it should have come from the factory. B&M = Just awesome. With a stock shift knob, it's great. Put on a lighter, shorter knob...and it feels notchy IMO. I ditched my GREX knob in favor of the stock one and am much happier with the B&M...the extra inch of height (plus the weight) gives just enough extra leverage to make a difference. I've owned both kinds...and the B&M is better...but I still dunno if it's $150 better ($75 vs $225). My .02 - Brian __________________ www.KA24DEvelopment.com

12-20-2004, 10:45 AM	#6
s13Dr1ft Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Indiana Age: 41 Posts: 772 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ive driven quite a few cars with B&M, ive felt drastic changes in how fast and smooth i can shift with it. The damn things re so strong as well and loved be be brutally thrown into gear. B&M have been around for quite some time and I have never nor anyone i know had problems with them. Nismo- Also very good, it felt very strong and smooth as well. but for the money id say go with B&M __________________ 1991 hatch Drift Indy

12-20-2004, 12:00 PM	#9
240Driver39 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 40 Posts: 1,090 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: 240Driver39 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	B&M. asfhsdkfgdsfg __________________ 1990 240sx 5spd fastback

12-20-2004, 04:19 AM	#2
twong85 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Monterey Park, CA Age: 39 Posts: 155 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Any shifter that works for the sr will work for the ka. Neither shifter will be smooth like the stock shifter. No experience with the B&M but I've heard its much notchier than the C's.

12-20-2004, 09:02 AM	#5
thx247 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: bay area Posts: 1,455 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seeing as how I've only had to buy one shifter, and its never cause me a problem, and I like the throw more than the other shifters on the market, the extra $150 is negligible over time. B+M.

12-20-2004, 10:48 AM	#7
89s132b Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 220 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love my B&M. I wouldn't call it notchy... more of a positive clack just to loet you know that "yes, you are in gear" Miss-shifts are a thing of the past. Most people are happy with their OBX shifters as well.

12-20-2004, 02:33 PM	#10
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 42 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	bnm it is. i have a nismo leather shift knob. will i experience alot of vibrating up top of my rpms? __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

12-20-2004, 03:21 PM	#11
AutoRnD Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF BAY AREA, CA Posts: 2,601 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: AutoRnD Feedback Score: 1 reviews	eh.. who cares..!!! if you are in high rev's with your motor your least concern should be oh my... the shift knob is rattling.. i would be more concerned about the task at hand. The bnm shifter is most likely one of the best shifters on the market today. The rattle honestly only happens at around redline.. So to me its more of a shift indicator than an actual hassle. __________________ www.AutoRnD.com Nardi, Enkei, Stance, AME Master Distributors for USA Check Out Our Facebook!

12-20-2004, 04:40 PM	#12
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If you search you can find how to fix the rattle too. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

12-20-2004, 06:25 PM	#13
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 38 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i have a b&m shifter and absolutely love it!!!

12-20-2004, 08:39 PM	#14
Whiplash Willy Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland OR Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a B&M and it rattles like crazy at most all rpms, even after trying the mods to fix it. It rattles with stock, Nismo GT and Dildo knob. It doesn't rattle at high rpms though, just 2000-4500. Not worth it in my opinion. It sounds like poop, annoying as hell.

12-20-2004, 09:26 PM	#15
JaeTea Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: EC Posts: 967 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: JaeTea Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I have an OBX and the thing was ABSOLUTE CRAP without a weighted shift knob!! I bought a counterweighted Greddy and it helped alot. Shifts much smoother now. Also I dont' know how the BnM installs but if its the same as the OBX one be sure to replace that plastic shift bushing thing down there. __________________ KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!

12-20-2004, 10:57 PM	#16
[GoaTSLonG] Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	b&m i've never felt a shifter quite as amazing as the b&m in my car __________________ WRECKED.

12-20-2004, 11:15 PM	#17
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	try the ebay knock offs!! super cheap.. im debating to get one.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6755 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6755 __________________ Keep it Classy

12-20-2004, 11:22 PM	#18
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 42 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wat kind of knobs are u bnm people running? stock? __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!