Differences between 95 and 96 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

toraji · 01-27-2005, 10:59 PM

just curious about mechanical or electrical differences in the 95 and 96 ?

i know one is OBDI and the other is OBD II. so difference in ECU?

or is the 95 OBD II?

just curious and a little confused.

(i searched didnt find much =/ )

Ritz S14 · 01-27-2005, 11:13 PM

Yeah, some 1995 cars are fully OBDII, but unfortunately the 95 240sx isn't one of them.

There's a differen't harness, ecu, and there are more sensors in the 96+

And of course there is the front grill.

SilviaDriver · 01-27-2005, 11:18 PM

grille

4154156466469486

SimpleS14 · 01-27-2005, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilviaDriver

grille

That is not mechanical or electrical.

d4vech3n · 01-28-2005, 12:01 AM

Its just a bunch of little things. It's a little more organized under the 95s with the wires.

Some 95 SEs don't come with a sun roof which is a find.

DocTaDrifT · 01-28-2005, 12:12 AM

my 95 has OBDII is there a reason why?

o240isxf0304 · 01-28-2005, 12:26 AM

my 96 se doesnt have a sunroof. i want one though

infinitexsound · 01-28-2005, 12:44 AM

ill pass on the sunroof... and i have an se

Drunk Bastard · 01-28-2005, 01:02 AM

^^^^^^^^

Drunk Bastard · 01-28-2005, 01:02 AM

double post

Andrew Bohan · 01-28-2005, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocTaDrifT

my 95 has OBDII is there a reason why?

i thought i heard that they switched to OBDII toward the end of the 95 model year, so a small percentage of the 95s have it

phrozen · 01-28-2005, 01:52 AM

mid/late 95 produced 95 and probably the mid94-95 production 95 s14's were obd1

driftyour40 · 01-28-2005, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4vech3n

Its just a bunch of little things. It's a little more organized under the 95s with the wires.

Some 95 SEs don't come with a sun roof which is a find.

hey thats what I have. I have a find, lol.

Do 96's have different gearing or better output than the 95's? I ask because my friends 96 has always been faster than my 95 and we have similar mods I can't figure out what the difference is I even weigh less than he dose so it's not weight.

95Blue240sx · 01-28-2005, 09:22 AM

Well your car IS a year older, could just be the fact that the motor is worn down.

Me too i have a find!!! It also has a black engine bay, people tell me thats a find too.

projectRDM · 01-28-2005, 09:46 AM

Black engine bay is standard on Blue Emerald, Mediterrean Blue, Concord Gray, and of course Super Black.

Sunroof is optional on both base and SE for both years, there's no standard as to which year has more/less.

DocTaDrifT · 01-28-2005, 09:53 AM

the tag says my car was built in 94

Ritz S14 · 01-28-2005, 09:57 AM

All USDM 95 S14s will have an OBDII port, but that doesn't mean it's OBDII. It just means you can hook up an OBDII scanner and scan for a generic code. If your OBDII plug is on the passenger side you're most likely running OBDI, if it's under the driver side you're fully OBDII.

BlackZenkiS14 · 01-28-2005, 11:01 AM

Sorry to threadjack but:
Being a 1996 OBD2, does that make a Redtop swap more difficult at all?

SimpleS14 · 01-28-2005, 01:15 PM

No....but good luck passing emissions (if you have it at your state).

BTW...your car is also fully OBD II when you have all that crap around the intake manifold.

BlackZenkiS14 · 01-28-2005, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

No....but good luck passing emissions (if you have it at your state).

BTW...your car is also fully OBD II when you have all that crap around the intake manifold.

well emissions i am not to worried about, because i can just pass now before the swap, and get a 2-year pass. So i wont have to worry about it for 2 years, and in that time, i am sure i can figure something out.

So other than that, putting a Redtop into a 96 s14 wont be any harder at all than usual?

projectRDM · 01-28-2005, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

well emissions i am not to worried about, because i can just pass now before the swap, and get a 2-year pass. So i wont have to worry about it for 2 years, and in that time, i am sure i can figure something out.

So other than that, putting a Redtop into a 96 s14 wont be any harder at all than usual?

Wiring is the exact same. You're pulling out what harnesses have the changeover.

jeprokz · 01-28-2005, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smog Tech

Yeah, some 1995 cars are fully OBDII, but unfortunately the 95 240sx isn't one of them.

There's a differen't harness, ecu, and there are more sensors in the 96+

And of course there is the front grill.

y is it unfortunate that it's not OBDII? fr what ppl have told me, it's less restrictive on emissions. curious, coz... well guess y?

jeprokz · 01-28-2005, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4vech3n

Some 95 SEs don't come with a sun roof which is a find.

ya, y is dat? coz o da helmet rubbing on the sun roof? so i'm fortunate now then?

Ritz S14 · 01-28-2005, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeprokz

y is it unfortunate that it's not OBDII? fr what ppl have told me, it's less restrictive on emissions. curious, coz... well guess y?

There's a greddy kit for 96+ s14. I have a 95, so I'll have to modify the kit in order for it to work with my car.

SimpleS14 · 01-28-2005, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smog Tech

There's a greddy kit for 96+ s14. I have a 95, so I'll have to modify the kit in order for it to work with my car.

How so? I remember someone on this board had that kit on his 95 and I don't recall any modifying.

Ritz S14 · 01-28-2005, 07:58 PM

Yeah, you're right. But I haven't gotten around to see what he had done to make it work.

driftyour40 · 01-29-2005, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Blue240sx

Well your car IS a year older, could just be the fact that the motor is worn down.

Me too i have a find!!! It also has a black engine bay, people tell me thats a find too.

Mine has more miles than his but his engine blew at like 165K so I think mine was in better condition or is in better condition w/ 203k on the clock. I don't know but his was faster than mine even when he had a passenger and I didn't. Also when he had 17" rims I was just barely faster than him. So I thought maybe the 96's had better out put or something.

idlafie · 01-29-2005, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeprokz

y is it unfortunate that it's not OBDII? fr what ppl have told me, it's less restrictive on emissions. curious, coz... well guess y?

The difference between an OBD I and OBD II 95 model production year is that the OBD I 95's has a one wire 02 sensor and uses a carbon cannister in the EGR system. Later model OBD II 95's switched over to a three wire 02 sensor AND got rid of the carbon cannister on the EGR system. The OBD II 95's switched over to a completely different EVAP system ...hell if I know what it's called....all I know is that you now have a square cannister underneath the rear passenger quarterpanel & a small round looking vacuum type cannister in the engine compartment next to the front passenger shock tower right next to the intake manifold....???
ID

idlafie · 01-29-2005, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeprokz

ya, y is dat? coz o da helmet rubbing on the sun roof? so i'm fortunate now then?

Yep...helmet rubs on the sunroof.....
ID
..still trying to figure out a way to lower his driver seat on his S14 SE sunroof car so he can fit in it with his helment on!!! !@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*..

toraji · 02-01-2005, 01:18 AM

so in OBDI models, there are less sensors that connect to the engine?

what about sensors on the tran? idlafie.. thats some good info.

thanks for the clarification

01-27-2005, 10:59 PM	#1
toraji Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2004 Location: california Age: 44 Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Differences between 95 and 96 just curious about mechanical or electrical differences in the 95 and 96 ? i know one is OBDI and the other is OBD II. so difference in ECU? or is the 95 OBD II? just curious and a little confused. (i searched didnt find much =/ )

01-28-2005, 12:26 AM	#7
o240isxf0304 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: california Age: 42 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my 96 se doesnt have a sunroof. i want one though __________________

01-28-2005, 01:52 AM	#12
phrozen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,352 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mid/late 95 produced 95 and probably the mid94-95 production 95 s14's were obd1 __________________ This box is 400x200: Please do not put your sig pic back if it exceeds this. -Moderation

01-28-2005, 09:22 AM	#14
95Blue240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Girls pee-pee when they see me Age: 41 Posts: 4,084 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95Blue240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well your car IS a year older, could just be the fact that the motor is worn down. Me too i have a find!!! It also has a black engine bay, people tell me thats a find too. __________________ Please leave me feedback

01-28-2005, 09:46 AM	#15
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Black engine bay is standard on Blue Emerald, Mediterrean Blue, Concord Gray, and of course Super Black. Sunroof is optional on both base and SE for both years, there's no standard as to which year has more/less. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

01-27-2005, 11:13 PM	#2
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 43 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, some 1995 cars are fully OBDII, but unfortunately the 95 240sx isn't one of them. There's a differen't harness, ecu, and there are more sensors in the 96+ And of course there is the front grill.

01-27-2005, 11:18 PM	#3
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	grille 4154156466469486

01-28-2005, 12:01 AM	#5
d4vech3n Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its just a bunch of little things. It's a little more organized under the 95s with the wires. Some 95 SEs don't come with a sun roof which is a find.

01-28-2005, 12:12 AM	#6
DocTaDrifT Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montebello Age: 38 Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my 95 has OBDII is there a reason why?

01-28-2005, 12:44 AM	#8
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ill pass on the sunroof... and i have an se

01-28-2005, 01:02 AM	#9
Drunk Bastard Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,405 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^^^^^^^^

01-28-2005, 09:53 AM	#16
DocTaDrifT Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montebello Age: 38 Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the tag says my car was built in 94

01-28-2005, 09:57 AM	#17
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 43 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All USDM 95 S14s will have an OBDII port, but that doesn't mean it's OBDII. It just means you can hook up an OBDII scanner and scan for a generic code. If your OBDII plug is on the passenger side you're most likely running OBDI, if it's under the driver side you're fully OBDII.

01-28-2005, 11:01 AM	#18
BlackZenkiS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "St. Chuck", MO Age: 39 Posts: 2,095 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Sorry to threadjack but: Being a 1996 OBD2, does that make a Redtop swap more difficult at all? __________________ -Kyle

01-28-2005, 01:15 PM	#19
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No....but good luck passing emissions (if you have it at your state). BTW...your car is also fully OBD II when you have all that crap around the intake manifold.

01-28-2005, 07:58 PM	#26
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 43 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, you're right. But I haven't gotten around to see what he had done to make it work.

02-01-2005, 01:18 AM	#30
toraji Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2004 Location: california Age: 44 Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so in OBDI models, there are less sensors that connect to the engine? what about sensors on the tran? idlafie.. thats some good info. thanks for the clarification