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AJ · 03-22-2002, 10:26 PM

Offhand, i'm thinking
1.  2 lights
2.  1 Hood
3.  center thingy between lights...

how much can these items be had for a a junkyard assuming i can find them?

*DSC* · 03-22-2002, 11:49 PM

4. front bumper
5. fenders (to fit new lights)

I don't think you'll be able to find these parts in a junk yard.  Usually when damage is bad enough to put a car in a junkyard its front end damage.

misnomer · 03-23-2002, 12:41 AM

Why would the s14's get a new designation (s14 -> s14a), albeit unofficial, when the s13 had inumerable more changes from '90 to '91. In addition to the front face, it has vast engine changes. . .

Just thinkin', I'll try not to do it again.

adey · 03-23-2002, 01:12 AM

BTW it's S14 to S14a, not S14a to S14b.  

I guess the change in the 'look' of the S14 was just more dramatic (very much so) than the '90- to '91+ S13s. After all, that (on the exterior) just the bumper....

But who knows... Nissan have their reasons.

*Grant* · 03-23-2002, 02:30 AM

actually there is no real name specfied for the two differences, easiest is to use from 95-96 front to 97-98 front.

I think you need, hood, fenders, lights, bumper, bumper support (maybe not), grille, and i think some bracket that holds the new style lights in.

*transient* · 03-23-2002, 09:06 AM

Actually there is a designated name. The 95-96 are the s14 zenki, and the 97-98 models are the s14 kouki.

S13 Passion · 03-23-2002, 09:52 AM

what would the s14b models look like then?

xNotoriousGQx · 03-23-2002, 09:55 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13 Passion @ Mar. 22 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what would the s14b models look like then?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
s14b are 95-96 240sx.

*DSC* · 03-23-2002, 10:53 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xNotoriousGQx @ Mar. 22 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13 Passion @ Mar. 22 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what would the s14b models look like then?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
s14b are 95-96 240sx.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think b would be 97-98 and a would be 95-96 if you wanted to name them like that.  It would only make sence because a comes before b and 95-96 comes before 97-98.  I've also heard 95-96 called bmcs14 and 97-98 being mcs14, mc being either minor conversion or minor change.

xNotoriousGQx · 03-23-2002, 11:04 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ Mar. 22 2002,12:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xNotoriousGQx @ Mar. 22 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13 Passion @ Mar. 22 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what would the s14b models look like then?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
s14b are 95-96 240sx.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think b would be 97-98 and a would be 95-96 if you wanted to name them like that. It would only make sence because a comes before b and 95-96 comes before 97-98. I've also heard 95-96 called bmcs14 and 97-98 being mcs14, mc being either minor conversion or minor change.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
actually they name 95-96 s14b beacuse "b" stands for "before" minor change and 97-98 s14a because "a" stands for "after" minor change.

HippoSleek · 03-23-2002, 11:52 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (transient @ Mar. 23 2002,10:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually there is a designated name. The 95-96 are the s14 zenki, and the 97-98 models are the s14 kouki.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's not really the designated name - I don't think there is one.  IIRC, Zenki and Kouki is just Japanese for before and after.

I like it though b/c Zenki sounds cooler (looks cooler too imho)

AJ · 03-23-2002, 10:47 PM

who cares about the damn name!.. u knew what i meant.. thats all that matters...

anyhow,, so assuming i'm getting a new front bumper anyway, how much should i expect to spend to get a stock hood, lights, fenders, etc... ?  ball park figures will work <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> thanks

*transient* · 03-23-2002, 10:52 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Mar. 23 2002,1:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's not really the designated name - I don't think there is one. IIRC, Zenki and Kouki is just Japanese for before and after.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It may not be designated by nissan, but it's accepted as the "correct" way to discern between the two. Even Nismo parts uses those terms to designate between the two.

misnomer · 03-23-2002, 11:17 PM

I just call it "s14" and "s14 that I've never really seen before" 'cause there don't seem to be any 97-98s in Northern Nevada at all <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

03-22-2002, 10:26 PM	#1
AJ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 793 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Offhand, i'm thinking 1.  2 lights 2.  1 Hood 3.  center thingy between lights... how much can these items be had for a a junkyard assuming i can find them? __________________ __________ 96 s14 300zx lsd zeal b2's

03-22-2002, 11:49 PM	#2
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	4. front bumper 5. fenders (to fit new lights) I don't think you'll be able to find these parts in a junk yard.  Usually when damage is bad enough to put a car in a junkyard its front end damage. __________________

03-23-2002, 12:41 AM	#3
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why would the s14's get a new designation (s14 -> s14a), albeit unofficial, when the s13 had inumerable more changes from '90 to '91. In addition to the front face, it has vast engine changes. . . Just thinkin', I'll try not to do it again. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

03-23-2002, 01:12 AM	#4
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	BTW it's S14 to S14a, not S14a to S14b.   I guess the change in the 'look' of the S14 was just more dramatic (very much so) than the '90- to '91+ S13s. After all, that (on the exterior) just the bumper.... But who knows... Nissan have their reasons. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

03-23-2002, 09:06 AM	#6
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually there is a designated name. The 95-96 are the s14 zenki, and the 97-98 models are the s14 kouki. __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

03-23-2002, 02:30 AM	#5
Grant Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 聖地牙哥 Posts: 2,647 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Grant Feedback Score: 0 reviews	actually there is no real name specfied for the two differences, easiest is to use from 95-96 front to 97-98 front. I think you need, hood, fenders, lights, bumper, bumper support (maybe not), grille, and i think some bracket that holds the new style lights in.

03-23-2002, 09:52 AM	#7
S13 Passion Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what would the s14b models look like then?

03-23-2002, 09:55 AM	#8
xNotoriousGQx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 447 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13 Passion @ Mar. 22 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what would the s14b models look like then?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> s14b are 95-96 240sx. __________________ www.RevTechRacing.com

03-23-2002, 10:53 AM	#9
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xNotoriousGQx @ Mar. 22 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13 Passion @ Mar. 22 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what would the s14b models look like then?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> s14b are 95-96 240sx.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I think b would be 97-98 and a would be 95-96 if you wanted to name them like that.  It would only make sence because a comes before b and 95-96 comes before 97-98.  I've also heard 95-96 called bmcs14 and 97-98 being mcs14, mc being either minor conversion or minor change. __________________

03-23-2002, 11:04 AM	#10
xNotoriousGQx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 447 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ Mar. 22 2002,12:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xNotoriousGQx @ Mar. 22 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13 Passion @ Mar. 22 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what would the s14b models look like then?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> s14b are 95-96 240sx.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I think b would be 97-98 and a would be 95-96 if you wanted to name them like that. It would only make sence because a comes before b and 95-96 comes before 97-98. I've also heard 95-96 called bmcs14 and 97-98 being mcs14, mc being either minor conversion or minor change.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> actually they name 95-96 s14b beacuse "b" stands for "before" minor change and 97-98 s14a because "a" stands for "after" minor change. __________________ www.RevTechRacing.com

03-23-2002, 11:52 AM	#11
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (transient @ Mar. 23 2002,10:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually there is a designated name. The 95-96 are the s14 zenki, and the 97-98 models are the s14 kouki.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> That's not really the designated name - I don't think there is one.  IIRC, Zenki and Kouki is just Japanese for before and after. I like it though b/c Zenki sounds cooler (looks cooler too imho)

03-23-2002, 10:47 PM	#12
AJ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 793 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	who cares about the damn name!.. u knew what i meant.. thats all that matters... anyhow,, so assuming i'm getting a new front bumper anyway, how much should i expect to spend to get a stock hood, lights, fenders, etc... ?  ball park figures will work <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> thanks __________________ __________ 96 s14 300zx lsd zeal b2's

03-23-2002, 10:52 PM	#13
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Mar. 23 2002,1:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's not really the designated name - I don't think there is one. IIRC, Zenki and Kouki is just Japanese for before and after.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> It may not be designated by nissan, but it's accepted as the "correct" way to discern between the two. Even Nismo parts uses those terms to designate between the two. __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

03-23-2002, 11:17 PM	#14
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just call it "s14" and "s14 that I've never really seen before" 'cause there don't seem to be any 97-98s in Northern Nevada at all <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!