Thinking about buying the KTS coilovers today...ride quality?

[alkemyst]

I would like to hear from some that have these on their daily driver especially when negotiating railroad crossings and reflectors in the road, etc.

Most I have seen is they handle great and are high quality...but when ride quality gets mentioned I only saw 'well the rates are 3-4x stiffer than stock, but it can be soft for that rate'...so I don't know where this puts it.

I was looking at RS*R race, AGX or Koni, and having to redo the mounts and boots equalling about $850-900.

Thanks

Chris

[BobbyBoy]

I've only driven them a week so far, but they seem like any other track suited suspension (HEs, RMA8, GR6) A little bumpy, but nothing you don't get used to. This is on a daily driver basis.

[tastyratz]

if you get agxs dont forget to save money to replace them when they blow all the time. I have spls on my car and i love them. if you dont turn them all the way up i dont think of it as being really rough but then again pillowball isnt for the average caddy driver

[alkemyst]

I have never driven other 240sx coilovers so comparisons to them don't help me, sorry .

Also pillowballs are different 'feeling' on all cars...what's the big issue on the 240sx? Too much feedback (my adj. tension rods transmit alot through the steering wheell....on certain roads it can get annoying, but not really harsh I'd say.

Thanks...keep letting me know. If there is a 'better' street setup out there let me know that as well...

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[tastyratz]

the best street setup imho is 6k and 8k springs or 5 and 7 on properly valved coilovers. these will give you a better handling and ride quality anyday over springs on unmatched shocks. if you have no problem running pillowball tc rods then you will have no problem with coilovers. the pillowball mounts give you more feel and you lose ride quality obviously based on the nature. you really just have to decide on the parts based on what you can handle. personally i drive with my coils set all the way up but thats just me. id say the t/c rods made the largest compromise in ride quality out of all the things ive done so far in my setup. theres no big issue with the 240sx really its just that if your looking for ride comfort a race suspension isnt the way but if you can take it its far worth the tradeoff .

[TurDz]

I've ridden on JIC 8/6k coils in an S13 hatch with 15's. It rode GREAT on the low setting. It was softer over the harsh bumps compared to my S14 w/ STOCK suspension.

Can anyone compare these coilovers to JIC? If they ride the same way, I will definately invest in a set of KTS coils.

[KOUKI KA-T]

I've been running the KTS coilovers on mine for a few weeks now. I'm running them on setting 4 front and rear and have replaced most suspension arms with adjustable heim jointed units and aluminum subframe spacers. Needless to say the ride "comfort" has diminished quite a bit (very noisy), but that's the sacrifice you have to make with any decent performing suspension setup. Only downfalls on these I've come across is chicks don't always like to be jostled around so much in the passenger seat and driving while needing to take piss is most painfull.

And why would you even want coilovers that could feel softer than the stock suspension..... yuck.

And I second tastyrats on the impact the TC rods make, they are very loud when hitting bumps.

[theronin]

Originally Posted by KOUKI KA-T

Only downfalls on these I've come across is chicks don't always like to be jostled around so much in the passenger seat and driving while needing to take piss is most painfull.

i like to watch the titties jiggle though

[kidinthehall]

Originally Posted by tastyratz

if you get agxs dont forget to save money to replace them when they blow all the time. I have spls on my car and i love them. if you dont turn them all the way up i dont think of it as being really rough but then again pillowball isnt for the average caddy driver

Ive used the same set of AGX's on two cars, wrecking one, and bending a wheel on the other and they havent flinched at it. Ive cut 1.7 60fts with them and placed 2nd in a drift competition with them (only car without coilovers that day)

Im not saying coil overs arent better, or that i wouldnt like to have a set.......but i wouldnt make ignorant generalized statements like "yeah those blow all the time"

[Var]

AGX are mehh...? dont go over 5 k with your springs cause the rebound isnt good enough.

For 200 bucks more i'd go with KTS no questions asked. THere is no comparison when it comes to performance

[kidinthehall]

$200 more??? agx's are $300.........

anyway, im wasnt making a comparison between the two at all. just correcting someones generalization

[SilviaDriver]

how about

agx+shipping+*spring of choice*+shipping

[kidinthehall]

ok.....so ~$475.


whats the price on the KTS's? 1107+ shipping

not quite $200 price difference.

[KOUKI KA-T]

Originally Posted by kidinthehall

ok.....so ~$475.


whats the price on the KTS's? 1107+ shipping

not quite $200 price difference.

$475??
hmmmm.. set of 4 AGX's for s14= 420.00 +shipping
Eibach prokit springs = 220 +shipping

So not quite 475 either...
And the 1107 for KTS includes shipping.
So the difference is roughly 400$ between a spring and shock setup, or a fully height adjustable, 15way damping adjustable coilover with camber plates.
No brainer...

[shinhed]

I've just been told that the KTS's are on backorder for 3-weeks.

Poopy stix

[KOUKI KA-T]

Originally Posted by shinhed

I've just been told that the KTS's are on backorder for 3-weeks.

Poopy stix

Took 6 weeks to get mine. Well worth the wait.

[kidinthehall]

Originally Posted by KOUKI KA-T

$475??
hmmmm.. set of 4 AGX's for s14= 420.00 +shipping
Eibach prokit springs = 220 +shipping

So not quite 475 either...
And the 1107 for KTS includes shipping.
So the difference is roughly 400$ between a spring and shock setup, or a fully height adjustable, 15way damping adjustable coilover with camber plates.
No brainer...

If you paid that much, you got fucked. Mine were $300 for my S13 + $125 for Tein S techs......

[kidinthehall]

not to mention you retards seem to think i keep arguing about coilovers vs a shock/spring setup.......im not. you apparently lack any reading comprehension.

[KOUKI KA-T]

Originally Posted by kidinthehall

not to mention you retards seem to think i keep arguing about coilovers vs a shock/spring setup.......im not. you apparently lack any reading comprehension.

Yes, we must be retarded.

I would like to hear from some that have these on their daily driver especially when negotiating railroad crossings and reflectors in the road, etc.
I was looking at RS*R race, AGX or Koni, and having to redo the mounts and boots equalling about $850-900.

Do you have KTS coilovers on your car??
And see where the 200$ figure came from?
Lose the shitty attitude, and do some reading yourself.

[TurDz]

Originally Posted by KOUKI KA-T

And why would you even want coilovers that could feel softer than the stock suspension..... yuck.

I worded my description wrong. I meant more compliant. It wasn't softer, but it absorbed imperfections as well-match spring/shocks should be. When I pushed it and turned the car hard, it definately was firmer than stock suspension at it's lowest setting (JIC).

[mjjstang]

kid u need to settle the fuck down. u like to argue way too much. but on ANOTHER note, I will be getting the kts very soon, U know there is a very informative thread like 6 pages long about them.

[SilvviaS14]

Originally Posted by KOUKI KA-T

Took 6 weeks to get mine. Well worth the wait.

I got mine a littler over 2.5 weeks after I placed the initial order...Guess I was lucky!

Just got them Friday...and they're installed, now I'm playing with the settings.

On the softest setting they feel similar in stiffness to my tokico blues/eibach prokits...but that's the SOFTEST setting...they can get a LOT stiffer...I'm very impressed by the build quality of these things too...I like being able to say they're better than Tein HE's, in design and construction

[KA24DESOneThree]

If you want a stiff suspension, ride quality should pretty much go out the window. It's one of those things you compromise.

I love my KTS coilovers. Once you stop running -7+ degrees of camber, the handling improves greatly. (Yeah... I know. That was WAY too much negative camber.) I have them combined with Falken Azenis Sports (you know, the street tire with the heaviest carcass because it's got gobs of sidewall strength?) and the ride is stiff but not bouncy. On the freeway, it sucks, frankly. But once you get off the freeway and onto one of your favorite driving roads, you don't care. It's sublime, and will be more so with Whiteline sways and less compliance.

[silviasichigo]

They are great I got the set for my S-13 about 9months ago for 90,000 yen ($833) brand new and they are still going strong not too jaw wrenching or gut busting. The car is an 1988 so the body had to be stiffened up but great suspension for the price. Oh and by the way $833 is a steal and they are still that price out of option magazine for thoes of you that can speak japanese hahahahhahahahahah.

[BobbyBoy]

I got the last set in stock, I think I as the luckiest. As far as road feel, these are not bad at all. I am running 4th softest up front 8 in the rear and the ride quality is what youd expect of 8k 6k coilovers. The feel is almost exactly the same as my GP sports GR6s I had before, and I am running 18 inch wheels with less sidewall also.

Also for those who are arguing the whole coilover vs shock spring combo, dont forget to add in the cost of camber plates and shipping as well...

If you still think your strapped for cash and cant afford the $200 difference between coils and the schock spring combo, just save a little more and get coils. Dont cheap out on yourself. If you want to stay on a budget, don't modify your car at all.

[nightwalker]

My friend ordered KTSs about two weeks ago. Have not received them yet. Will be able to compare with my HEs as soon as he gets them. (We have similar suspension setups)
But my HEs with car gutted, most suspension arms replaced for heim joint arms, rear subframe collars, with a 60 series stock tire size and it still sucks for ride quality. Put a 50 series tire on there and most women/people will hate to ride with you. (Unless they're underage attention seeking whores...men and women) I did notice the ride got less choppy when I put in a bigger rear sway bar though.

[alkemyst]

What's the ride quality of a 8/6 combo....that's the big unknown most including myself have....I know Mustangs and having spring rates of 14 is not uncommon, I think the Cobra R comes stock like this...however totally different geometry.

Regarding budgets I have one but it could be over $1k per month if that's where I wanted my play money to go....also there was a time in my life when $15 could make or break a deal, but I still got myself nice things.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Ride in one. We can't just say like "5/10" or something subjective like that. It's very stiff for a street car and if you aren't serious, I do not recommend it.

[ucfz31s13]

If you are worried about ride quality, then you are not ready to have a badass handling car

[S14DB]

FLEX handles I-4 well.