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Jim96SC2 · 04-06-2002, 09:18 AM

I'm gonna be grabbing a nice, low mileage S14 this month for a song (3,000 for under 60,000 miles). It gonna be a road course/drift style race car. The original plan was for a worked red top SR20DET with about 300RWHP and a lot of chassis litening. But I read up and found you can swap in an RB25DET engine so I was thinking of maybe doing that. Anyone have some details on it? Opinions? I know it'll screw up the F/R weight distribution, but I think that with some of the chassis work I could get it to around 52/48.

*DSC* · 04-06-2002, 09:28 AM

Well, nobody on this forum has an RB so the only info we could give you is theory and hearsay. So rather than listening to us guess and fight over which engine is better for this or that, I suggest you contact unstable-hybrids.com and ask them some questions. They would be the only ones who really know for sure how much more it will weigh and you would get nothing but accurate information.
I say go with the RB, just cauz I want to see one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

*ca18guy* · 04-06-2002, 09:49 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ April 07 2002,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, nobody on this forum has an RB so the only info we could give you is theory and hearsay.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Wrong, Grumpy has one  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

drift freaq · 04-06-2002, 11:17 AM

add to that , My buddy here in socal also has one(RB25) in his S14 track car. He is not on the forum but I am <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Jim96SC2 · 04-06-2002, 11:19 AM

Think you could ask him a few questions for me.

New motor mounts needed?

How did he fit in the transmission (custom crossmember?)?

Will I need a new driveshaft?

How is the overall feel of the car?

Or if you could have him Email me: [email protected]

Thanks everyone.

*DSC* · 04-06-2002, 05:30 PM

Oh, well my bad <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

I've don't remember grumpy ever posting here and drift freaq, WHY ISN'T HE HERE?  Get him here or atleast give us some pics, I've never seen a rb25 in a 240, much less an s14.

macrocosm · 04-06-2002, 07:19 PM

i'd go with the sr, especially if you are only looking for 300whp. the rb is nice, but if your oil pump goes out or ignition, your going to be s.o.l for while, parts just aren't available. Sr parts are easy to find now, and lots of companies are offering turbo upgrades to give you 300+rwhp for less than like $2500(past the price of the engine of course). I have a bonestock blacktop sr with only an m's intake and full three inch exhaust and i can barley keep the back tires going the same direction as the front.
-Jeremiah Jordan
90 hatch

Jim96SC2 · 04-07-2002, 02:06 PM

Well with the SR I was looking for 300, but with the RB I was thinking 400-450.

mbmbmb23 · 04-07-2002, 03:40 PM

If you get the RB, why not order some "just incase" extra replacement parts for the engine?  As far as fitting it in there....I think I heard something about a custom crossmember and engine mounts.  I have no idea about driveshaft tho.  The people who do the RB swaps as a business ($$&#036<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> are tight lipped about the specs..but Im sure there is someone out there who would help you out.

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Grumpy · 04-07-2002, 04:52 PM

(Jim96SC2
Think you could ask him a few questions for me.

New motor mounts needed?....YES, need custom mounts...

How did he fit in the transmission (custom crossmember?)?  No need for custom cross member or tranny mount.......

Will I need a new driveshaft?  YES.....

How is the overall feel of the car?...  OK,  I drove two RB powered 180sx in Japan....  They feel was great...  Mine is still going through the building stage...  Body wise.......

DSC...  WHAT!!!  I am always on here.................

Anyway,  here is alink to my car...  these pictures were taken about 4 weeks ago....  alot has changed since then,  but no new pics............

http://www.eframes.com/default.asp?g...bum=25776.4496

Enjoy!!  I'll try to take some new pictures this coming week.........

Grumpy
www.mckinneymotorsports.com

*DSC* · 04-07-2002, 05:10 PM

OHHH, Grumpy with an rb powered s13 and a 510 drag car grumpy! I had to see your cars again to remember <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> I thought Grumpy only posted on FA, but now I remember you posted when you first took those pics.

Kitahara · 04-08-2002, 09:43 PM

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> WOW... that's all I've got to say.. nice work with your RB powered S13!  That picture you have of the RB26DETT at the show is simply incredible as well.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

04-06-2002, 09:18 AM	#1
Jim96SC2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 43 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm gonna be grabbing a nice, low mileage S14 this month for a song (3,000 for under 60,000 miles). It gonna be a road course/drift style race car. The original plan was for a worked red top SR20DET with about 300RWHP and a lot of chassis litening. But I read up and found you can swap in an RB25DET engine so I was thinking of maybe doing that. Anyone have some details on it? Opinions? I know it'll screw up the F/R weight distribution, but I think that with some of the chassis work I could get it to around 52/48. __________________ Swap DONE: 40K Redtop, Greddy Turbo extension, Greddy DP, Greddy V-SPL FMIC, Greddy Hotpipe, HKS SSQV, Koyo Radiator, Toda Ultralight FW, Spec Stage 2 Clutch, ATS 2-way Diff., Rice-Boy Red Air Filter.

04-06-2002, 09:28 AM	#2
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, nobody on this forum has an RB so the only info we could give you is theory and hearsay. So rather than listening to us guess and fight over which engine is better for this or that, I suggest you contact unstable-hybrids.com and ask them some questions. They would be the only ones who really know for sure how much more it will weigh and you would get nothing but accurate information. I say go with the RB, just cauz I want to see one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________

04-06-2002, 11:17 AM	#4
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	add to that , My buddy here in socal also has one(RB25) in his S14 track car. He is not on the forum but I am <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

04-06-2002, 11:19 AM	#5
Jim96SC2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 43 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Think you could ask him a few questions for me. New motor mounts needed? How did he fit in the transmission (custom crossmember?)? Will I need a new driveshaft? How is the overall feel of the car? Or if you could have him Email me: [email protected] Thanks everyone. __________________ Swap DONE: 40K Redtop, Greddy Turbo extension, Greddy DP, Greddy V-SPL FMIC, Greddy Hotpipe, HKS SSQV, Koyo Radiator, Toda Ultralight FW, Spec Stage 2 Clutch, ATS 2-way Diff., Rice-Boy Red Air Filter.

04-06-2002, 05:30 PM	#6
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh, well my bad <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> I've don't remember grumpy ever posting here and drift freaq, WHY ISN'T HE HERE?  Get him here or atleast give us some pics, I've never seen a rb25 in a 240, much less an s14. __________________

04-06-2002, 09:49 AM	#3
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ April 07 2002,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, nobody on this forum has an RB so the only info we could give you is theory and hearsay.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Wrong, Grumpy has one  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

04-06-2002, 07:19 PM	#7
macrocosm Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'd go with the sr, especially if you are only looking for 300whp. the rb is nice, but if your oil pump goes out or ignition, your going to be s.o.l for while, parts just aren't available. Sr parts are easy to find now, and lots of companies are offering turbo upgrades to give you 300+rwhp for less than like $2500(past the price of the engine of course). I have a bonestock blacktop sr with only an m's intake and full three inch exhaust and i can barley keep the back tires going the same direction as the front. -Jeremiah Jordan 90 hatch

04-07-2002, 02:06 PM	#8
Jim96SC2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 43 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well with the SR I was looking for 300, but with the RB I was thinking 400-450. __________________ Swap DONE: 40K Redtop, Greddy Turbo extension, Greddy DP, Greddy V-SPL FMIC, Greddy Hotpipe, HKS SSQV, Koyo Radiator, Toda Ultralight FW, Spec Stage 2 Clutch, ATS 2-way Diff., Rice-Boy Red Air Filter.

04-07-2002, 03:40 PM	#9
mbmbmb23 Zilvia Contributor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC. Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: mbmbmb23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If you get the RB, why not order some "just incase" extra replacement parts for the engine?  As far as fitting it in there....I think I heard something about a custom crossmember and engine mounts.  I have no idea about driveshaft tho.  The people who do the RB swaps as a business ($$&#036<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> are tight lipped about the specs..but Im sure there is someone out there who would help you out. m __________________ 400x200

04-07-2002, 04:52 PM	#10
Grumpy Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	(Jim96SC2 Think you could ask him a few questions for me. New motor mounts needed?....YES, need custom mounts... How did he fit in the transmission (custom crossmember?)?  No need for custom cross member or tranny mount....... Will I need a new driveshaft?  YES..... How is the overall feel of the car?...  OK,  I drove two RB powered 180sx in Japan....  They feel was great...  Mine is still going through the building stage...  Body wise....... DSC...  WHAT!!!  I am always on here................. Anyway,  here is alink to my car...  these pictures were taken about 4 weeks ago....  alot has changed since then,  but no new pics............ http://www.eframes.com/default.asp?g...bum=25776.4496 Enjoy!!  I'll try to take some new pictures this coming week......... Grumpy www.mckinneymotorsports.com __________________ velocity.isfaster.com[br]www.mckinneymotorsports.com

04-07-2002, 05:10 PM	#11
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OHHH, Grumpy with an rb powered s13 and a 510 drag car grumpy! I had to see your cars again to remember <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> I thought Grumpy only posted on FA, but now I remember you posted when you first took those pics. __________________

04-08-2002, 09:43 PM	#12
Kitahara Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> WOW... that's all I've got to say.. nice work with your RB powered S13!  That picture you have of the RB26DETT at the show is simply incredible as well.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 96 240SX - under construction