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SR20DET S14 · 05-04-2002, 01:44 AM

i was talking to my friends about short shifters n somehow "short shifter mess up ur tranny" came up...

dont know much about that so if anyone knows about it please let me know i'd appreciate it.

and also...has anyone had experience or know anyone who has...who cut the stock shifter n re-threaded it?

thanks in advance

Natty · 05-04-2002, 10:21 AM

If your tranny is not in the best condition, it could.
I am waiting for my tranny to go out and when I have a new one to add a short shifter. Basically, if you shift faster, the syhcnros have to match the gears with less time. Apparently it is harder on them.
Go here www.dieselgeek.com
Jeff

*DSC* · 05-04-2002, 10:32 AM

A short shifter will in no way damage your transmission. It doesn't change anything in the tranny itself. The only thing it does it change how you move the bottom part that 3 inches or however far to switch gears.
What Natty said is definately true, the syncros do have to work a bit harder when your craming it through gears as fast as you can move the clutch pedal. But its kind of like saying a lightened flywheel is bad for your engine because redlineing is hard on your engine and the lightened flywheel will make it easier to redline.

BlackFox · 05-04-2002, 07:17 PM

Just leave your foot on the gas a second(split second) longer so when you engage the gear it will be up to speed  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  like a quick pre-revmatch

ridebmx · 05-06-2002, 08:51 AM

ive found that at redline in my mr2 i could shift very fast puttin the clutch in about half an inch and not letting go of the gas, no grinding or anything, the only thing it did was wear the 2nd gear synco faster...other than that it was fine

*Jeff240sx* · 05-06-2002, 01:28 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ridebmx @ May 06 2002,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i could shift very fast puttin the clutch in about half an inch and not letting go of the gas, no grinding or anything, the only thing it did was wear the 2nd gear synco faster...other than that it was fine</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Some people don't like tearing their tranny apart to replace syncros once a year.  
But there is a reason for that.  Just under redline, most trannys can be powershifted without the clutch at all just beacuase of the gears movements and speed.
-Jeff

ridebmx · 05-06-2002, 06:03 PM

this i know, and it helps when my dad owns a salvage yard, so i have tools and extra parts, but i never had to change the tranny, and it took a year and a half of abuse

05-04-2002, 10:21 AM	#2
Natty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If your tranny is not in the best condition, it could. I am waiting for my tranny to go out and when I have a new one to add a short shifter. Basically, if you shift faster, the syhcnros have to match the gears with less time. Apparently it is harder on them. Go here www.dieselgeek.com Jeff __________________ 1991 White 240sx Fastback LE, rusty spoiler, weak driveshaft, exhaust rattle.... Rattles are just your cars way of saying 'I love you.'

05-04-2002, 10:32 AM	#3
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A short shifter will in no way damage your transmission. It doesn't change anything in the tranny itself. The only thing it does it change how you move the bottom part that 3 inches or however far to switch gears. What Natty said is definately true, the syncros do have to work a bit harder when your craming it through gears as fast as you can move the clutch pedal. But its kind of like saying a lightened flywheel is bad for your engine because redlineing is hard on your engine and the lightened flywheel will make it easier to redline. __________________

05-04-2002, 07:17 PM	#4
BlackFox Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 534 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just leave your foot on the gas a second(split second) longer so when you engage the gear it will be up to speed  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  like a quick pre-revmatch __________________ Current Cars: 1976 Mercedes Benz 300D 1995 240sx SE aka Kate (winner: Best Stock S14 @ 2002 National Convention) http://community.webshots.com/user/jeff976cal If you're interested in parts email me [email protected]

05-06-2002, 08:51 AM	#5
ridebmx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 41 Posts: 379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive found that at redline in my mr2 i could shift very fast puttin the clutch in about half an inch and not letting go of the gas, no grinding or anything, the only thing it did was wear the 2nd gear synco faster...other than that it was fine __________________ I like my car, you may not...You like your car, I may not...To each there own, right? waiting for the sunken look to be cool..lol

05-06-2002, 01:28 PM	#6
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ridebmx @ May 06 2002,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i could shift very fast puttin the clutch in about half an inch and not letting go of the gas, no grinding or anything, the only thing it did was wear the 2nd gear synco faster...other than that it was fine</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Some people don't like tearing their tranny apart to replace syncros once a year.   But there is a reason for that.  Just under redline, most trannys can be powershifted without the clutch at all just beacuase of the gears movements and speed. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

05-04-2002, 01:44 AM	#1
SR20DET S14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was talking to my friends about short shifters n somehow "short shifter mess up ur tranny" came up... dont know much about that so if anyone knows about it please let me know i'd appreciate it. and also...has anyone had experience or know anyone who has...who cut the stock shifter n re-threaded it? thanks in advance

05-06-2002, 06:03 PM	#7
ridebmx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 41 Posts: 379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this i know, and it helps when my dad owns a salvage yard, so i have tools and extra parts, but i never had to change the tranny, and it took a year and a half of abuse __________________ I like my car, you may not...You like your car, I may not...To each there own, right? waiting for the sunken look to be cool..lol