Rear Toe problems

[The Hamsterball]

Hello, I searched already for "Toe", and didn't find enough help.

Okay guys I have a quick question. I just got my car aligned again at work (and I helped out so I could try to learn to use the machine haha).
The vehicle is on STOCK SUSPENSION, with the exception of Front Kazama tie rod ends + tein inner tie rods The front is:
0 toe matched (.02 degrees IN to be exact ha, i never was able to do that with the stock tie rods)
and i still have the camber difference problem:
Front right = -2 degrees of camber
Front left = 0 degrees
(I'll fix the front camber problem with coilover upper pillowball mounts)


The rear alignment is my prime concern at the moment. And we were using a Hunter Alignment machine.

On the rear, I noticed (as usual) that when we were adjusting the camber the toe was changing. So then we finished the camber and started adjusting the toe.

First the toe would not zero out. So then we gave up on that.

2ndly, the toe would NOT match at all. left and right would not get close to each other. And of course we could not match the rear camber.

The rear camber is at
Front left Front right
-1 degree -1.5

The rear toe is the problem

Front left Front right
.43 degrees -.46 degrees

That means my front right toe is WAY out of the factory specs (.5-.45)

When we had the rear toe rods adjusted as far as possible it was worse.
The technician said that I have to run the rear alignment like this for the mean time so that my tires will not get eaten up.


My question is.... Should I get Rear Toe rods to fix my rear toe problem?
That seems to be the case, but while I was searching I came across this thread:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...&highlight=toe

I read the following:
"Get RUCA's to fix the Camber. Toe should be fine after that(fixable with stock rods)."

"It appears that toe can be corrected with the stock equipment, as long as you have rucas."


I know that camber changes will affect my toe, but I don't know if buying aftermarket rear upper control arms will help my rear toe problem enough to set the rear toe to zero.
I'm not sure what the problem here is.

Question: Do you guys think I should buy some aftermarket RUCA (either C tune, SPL, or a used JDM-brand), or do I really really really need to get an aftermarket Rear Toe Rod instead to fix this problem?

Do most aftermarket Toe Control Rods have MORE adjustment ability than the factory pieces?


I would rather buy rear upper control arms, because I know I will need to fix the camber for sure when I lower, but if I cannot adjust the toe correctly with the factory toe rods, I want do fix that instead.

And also, I see some Ebay toe control rods online all the time, and I have heard C-tune racing's Ebay Toe control rods are basically Ebay toe rods.
Do you guys think it is alright to buy those?
I don't do any drifting, just mountain grip runs and track days, so I don't hit any curbs or anything like that very often (I have once, but not since that occasion). So the part breaking is not a problem.
I mostly care about the heim joint, and want the heim joint to last for quite a while and I don't want the threads and joints to rust over time.

Thanks in advance for the help and sorry for the long read.