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Al_S14 · 09-01-2005, 07:18 PM

So i put fresh KA in my s14 last week. and how i finally had a chance to take apart my old engine with 141k...i got to tell you i didnt expect to find this.

lower chain slack side guide is simply GONE. chain has just been bouncing on the pair of bolt that guide bolts on with. i am surprized that damn chain didng bust and i didnt exactly take it easy on this engine. ... 7k all day 12kmiles loing since i got it.

Then i looked at the pickup screen, i am surprised any oil was able to get thru it. I know alot of people here just take those top guides out and call it a day but after seeing this may want to think twice.

EDIT: i didnt make it clear but it was running strong when it removed it

nsn240 · 09-01-2005, 07:22 PM

hoyl crap... that's baaad, didnt you ever change the oil and stuff?

Al_S14 · 09-01-2005, 07:25 PM

hell yeah i did... i work for a dealer and since i get free oil i changed it at least once a month. but i had bought the car when it had 128k so at taht point it didnt do much good. may have bought me some time but thats about it

SpeedMonkeyInc · 09-01-2005, 07:29 PM

Crikey! So all that garbage stuffed into the oil pick up is whats left of the chain guides? What is that I am looking at in the bottom picture?

Al_S14 · 09-01-2005, 07:32 PM

thats just a piece missing off the tenstion guide on lower chain.

there were bigger pieces in the oil pan (of the lower tention guide)

oh yeah did i say it was running well when i took it out...besides the rattle hehe

wootwoot · 09-01-2005, 07:47 PM

Disgusting.

infinitexsound · 09-01-2005, 08:42 PM

lol, i wonder what mines looks like at 204k

aznpoopy · 09-01-2005, 08:55 PM

thats awesome.

i always had a slight metal pinging noise i could never identify. before anyone says it, no it was not knock. stock ka24de running on 91 octane.

maybe that ish in your pics is what it was.

95Blue240sx · 09-02-2005, 02:28 AM

^^ yeah im thinking the same as you. Too bad i dont want to rip apart the motor.

chmercer · 09-02-2005, 10:43 AM

HELL YEA. KA POWER. that is so fucking awesome!!! yea i pulled my old KA for a fresh one, ran strong, never burned a drop of oil. the guy who bought it said all the ringlands were blown and the bearings were almost toast. WORKHORSE MOTOR

RiversideS13 · 09-02-2005, 11:35 AM

does it make any noise? if so, how it sounds like?

95Blue240sx · 09-02-2005, 12:21 PM

theres no way to pull the lower timing cover off without removing the head is there? When i look at the head gasket it extends to where the lower and upper timing cover meet. Im scared that if i remove that itll rip that gasket to pieces.

Al_S14 · 09-02-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiversideS13

does it make any noise? if so, how it sounds like?

constant rattle except when you are at WOT. actually now that i think about it its not constant, it will rattle then dissapear then come right back. when driving or parket up to about 3k.. after that i think only reason i cant hear it is exhaust noise takes over.

and no you dont have to take the head off. But you will need to remove the pan to clear oil pick up( lower cover has to come forward off the oil pump drive and if pan is still on you cant move it forward any.

Chernobyl · 09-02-2005, 02:41 PM

heh, thats what mine looked like inside when I got it. I cleaned the oil pan out, put a new chain guide on, and its been running like a champ the last 5k miles. WeST drove it with no timing chain guides all the way from NJ, if I remember correctly.

KAs are beasts.

projectRDM · 09-03-2005, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Blue240sx

theres no way to pull the lower timing cover off without removing the head is there? When i look at the head gasket it extends to where the lower and upper timing cover meet. Im scared that if i remove that itll rip that gasket to pieces.

It won't. I've done numerous chain jobs with just pulling the covers.

09-01-2005, 07:18 PM	#1
Al_S14 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chesapeake VA Age: 40 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bet you cant beat this.. So i put fresh KA in my s14 last week. and how i finally had a chance to take apart my old engine with 141k...i got to tell you i didnt expect to find this. lower chain slack side guide is simply GONE. chain has just been bouncing on the pair of bolt that guide bolts on with. i am surprized that damn chain didng bust and i didnt exactly take it easy on this engine. ... 7k all day 12kmiles loing since i got it. Then i looked at the pickup screen, i am surprised any oil was able to get thru it. I know alot of people here just take those top guides out and call it a day but after seeing this may want to think twice. EDIT: i didnt make it clear but it was running strong when it removed it

09-01-2005, 07:47 PM	#6
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Disgusting. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

09-02-2005, 02:28 AM	#9
95Blue240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Girls pee-pee when they see me Age: 41 Posts: 4,084 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95Blue240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^ yeah im thinking the same as you. Too bad i dont want to rip apart the motor. __________________ Please leave me feedback

09-02-2005, 12:21 PM	#12
95Blue240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Girls pee-pee when they see me Age: 41 Posts: 4,084 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95Blue240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theres no way to pull the lower timing cover off without removing the head is there? When i look at the head gasket it extends to where the lower and upper timing cover meet. Im scared that if i remove that itll rip that gasket to pieces. __________________ Please leave me feedback

09-01-2005, 07:22 PM	#2
nsn240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: pa Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hoyl crap... that's baaad, didnt you ever change the oil and stuff?

09-01-2005, 07:25 PM	#3
Al_S14 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chesapeake VA Age: 40 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hell yeah i did... i work for a dealer and since i get free oil i changed it at least once a month. but i had bought the car when it had 128k so at taht point it didnt do much good. may have bought me some time but thats about it

09-01-2005, 07:29 PM	#4
SpeedMonkeyInc Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oakland Age: 45 Posts: 1,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Crikey! So all that garbage stuffed into the oil pick up is whats left of the chain guides? What is that I am looking at in the bottom picture?

09-01-2005, 07:32 PM	#5
Al_S14 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chesapeake VA Age: 40 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats just a piece missing off the tenstion guide on lower chain. there were bigger pieces in the oil pan (of the lower tention guide) oh yeah did i say it was running well when i took it out...besides the rattle hehe

09-01-2005, 08:42 PM	#7
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol, i wonder what mines looks like at 204k

09-01-2005, 08:55 PM	#8
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats awesome. i always had a slight metal pinging noise i could never identify. before anyone says it, no it was not knock. stock ka24de running on 91 octane. maybe that ish in your pics is what it was.

09-02-2005, 10:43 AM	#10
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 39 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HELL YEA. KA POWER. that is so fucking awesome!!! yea i pulled my old KA for a fresh one, ran strong, never burned a drop of oil. the guy who bought it said all the ringlands were blown and the bearings were almost toast. WORKHORSE MOTOR

09-02-2005, 11:35 AM	#11
RiversideS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Diamond Bar, CA Age: 43 Posts: 1,545 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does it make any noise? if so, how it sounds like?

09-02-2005, 02:41 PM	#14
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 42 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	heh, thats what mine looked like inside when I got it. I cleaned the oil pan out, put a new chain guide on, and its been running like a champ the last 5k miles. WeST drove it with no timing chain guides all the way from NJ, if I remember correctly. KAs are beasts.