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Old 01-12-2004, 10:45 PM   #1
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hybrid intercooler reviews? good? bad?

hi,
was wondering if n e has heard of hybrid intercoolers. If n e 1 has or uses one, how is it? Does it work good? Maybe some horsepower numbers would be good or a comparison to the more well known intercoolers might be good. Hybrid vs Greddy vs HKS vs Blitz vs Spearco????? If anyone can contribute something that would be greatly appreciated. I'm debating on the type of Intercooler i should get for my car.

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I have one for my sr20det but have not used it yet
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Old 01-13-2004, 08:39 AM   #3
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They're basically made the same way as a Greddy/HKS/Blitz...tube and fin design. As long as they don't leak and the insides of the entanks are smooth, they should perform almost exactly the same. Only thing you're losing will be some of the ease of the install. The ones made for the S chassis come with good instructions and lots of parts.

I'm going to get a bar/plate eBay intercooler and have piping made. I figure I should be able to get it all done for less than $500...maybe even less than $400.

Get the off brand unit. Save yourself some cash so you can buy something else more important...like brakes or tires or something. $800-$1000 for an air radiator is a rip. Well, at least considering what you COULD get for the same money if you bought some Spearco parts and made the whole thing yourself. That bish would be HUGE! And good for like 600 hp with about no loss.

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Old 01-13-2004, 11:35 AM   #4
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I don't know about performance yet, but my buddy just got one, and he finished putting it on yesterday. That thing fits super nice, and has more bracing to hold it on than the big name manufacturers. It is NICE! I'll tell you that much. The piping fit perfect, and is also nice. UNtil I hear from him about how crappy it performs...hehehe....bty, its bar and plate.... then I'll let bash it. But from just visual inspection, it's dam nice.
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Old 01-13-2004, 01:14 PM   #5
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bty, its bar and plate....
Really? Maybe I'm thinking of a different "Hybrid" eBay intercooler. Perhaps a link would be nice?

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i just purchased one, just go to eBay and search under s13 intercooler
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yea, i'm aware that it's bar and plate design and i'm debating whether or not to get the one off ebay..but i just want to make sure..too bad none of u have it installed and can give me ur thoughts about it..lol..it's all good though..please post when u guys do know becuz i plan on buying this real soon. I have my downpipe, testpipe, and walbro fuel pump on the way and i really need to compensate for air especially if imma be boosting a little higher (9psi) than stock. Thanks for all the replies..keep em coming
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that is the intercooler im planning on getting for my s14, i spent aboput an hour reading all the ebay responses for those sellers and everyone from supra owners to turbo civics loves them !!! PLus they use 3" outlets and most HKS and bla bla bla use 2.5!!! and they cost more.
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I have my downpipe, testpipe, and walbro fuel pump on the way and i really need to compensate for air especially if imma be boosting a little higher (9psi) than stock. Thanks for all the replies..keep em coming
Do you have the stock sidemount intercooler?

I have stock injectors, stock MAFS, stock turbo, and stock SMIC...only upgrades on my SR (power wise) are the downpipe, 3" cat, and N1 dual exhaust. And a Walbro 190 lph pump.

Did I mention I'm running 11.5 psi with no problems?

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i know i can boost it higher..but to save gas i'll only boost it around 9-10psi but of course if i decide to go to the strips or race someone i'll boost more around 12 cuz i know n e thing around or past 14psi is past the stock turbo's efficiency. I just don't want to boost too much therefore i'm only boosting conservetively. I've seen people run the same set up as me pretty much and boost at like 13 with no problem. But when it comes down, it's just saving gas =) in the long run i'll be able to save up more money to buy more stuff
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anyone have this Hybrid setup installed?

i'd like to see it, preferbly without the front bumper cover and, and some engine bay shots
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i know i can boost it higher..but to save gas i'll only boost it around 9-10psi but of course if i decide to go to the strips or race someone i'll boost more around 12...But when it comes down, it's just saving gas =) in the long run i'll be able to save up more money to buy more stuff
It saves gas? How do you figure? The difference between the gas used at 7 psi and at 12 psi is fairly negligable. The important thing is to stay off the boost as much as possible while cruising. All it takes is a bit of throttle control. I never went above about 3-4 psi on the way to work this morning.

In fact, my gas mileage has improved since I put in my new boost controller...don't ask me why. Maybe it was the new plug I got for the SMIC recirc pipe....

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Old 01-14-2004, 11:15 AM   #13
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true that it's all on throttle play..i can drive around not boosting at all unless going up a hill but if i limit myself to a certain boost say 9 psi then if i do decide to mash on it and does god know that i like to mash on it when driving down the highway i'll be able to limit myself to 9psi verses 14psi. I understand what you're trying to say about throttle controll but i'm one of those people that like to mash on it. So by controlling it to 9psi, no matter how much i mash on the gas it will be capped off at 9psi verses 14. Any how, n e word from n e 1 about the intercooler? Preferably someone who has it on there 240..i'd like to get an idea as far as efficiency. Thanks.
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Old 01-15-2004, 05:39 PM   #14
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since a lot of people have said good things about it and how it looks nice and how some of you have read up that other car enthusiasts like it..i decided to purchase one. I will update this post with n e possible pictures, thoughts, etc. Thanks everyone and have a nice day.
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Are you guys talking about the australian made Hybrid brand intercooler kits? I know a few people running them here in AUS and they seem to be pretty good. Designed to be good for street applications.
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Old 01-22-2004, 10:44 PM   #16
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ordered the intercooler and it's on it's way..it should be arriving in a week or two. I will try to take pictures of the install and also some after thoughts as far as performance. I can't wait..will let you guys know how everything goes.

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Are you guys talking about the australian made Hybrid brand intercooler kits? I know a few people running them here in AUS and they seem to be pretty good. Designed to be good for street applications.
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i have the hybrid intercooler!

i like it!

it is BAR AND PLATE

There was some fitment issues, but then again, I have an s14 with a redtop

i say its definatly worth the money
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i have the hybrid intercooler!

i like it!

it is BAR AND PLATE

There was some fitment issues, but then again, I have an s14 with a redtop

i say its definatly worth the money
hey hows it going. how is the bar and plate intercooler? i just bought a pretty big i/c and its a bar and plate design. any problems or maybe even quirks? im sort of confused on this. from wat i've read, im thinking about selling my current i/c and buying a smaller, tube and fin i/c. but i really like this one that i have. the core size is 24x11x3 (like the XS GTR core) but its bar and plate. wat do u guys think? and i know it IS overkill since i dont plan on boosting too much yet, but maybe in the future....well any type of input is appreciated (unless u flame me. )
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What about using 2 intercoolers.
I know somebody that plans to use a sidemount AND a small intercooler for a stock SR.
Some sort of hybrid. I think that is quite inefficient IMO, dunno, what do you guys think?
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no the floor jack is not on the IC piping.










this car no longer mine. so if the new owner is on here he tell us about performance. for the time i had it, it was great! no problems at all. fittment was great.

i also have an s14 kit right now. the hot pipe ends are the wrong size and most of the silicone hose do not match the pipes. also aiv pipe on the cold side sticks into the air flow. they could have done a better job at cutting the small pipe instead of letting it stick about 1" into the air flow.
the core is the same between s14 and s13 kits.
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so, you are saying that the fitment and quaility of the s14 hybrid intercooler setup sucks??
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so, you are saying that the fitment and quaility of the s14 hybrid intercooler setup sucks??
i will be putting on the s14 kit this weekend or next. the core and endtanks are the same as the s13 kit.
i'll take some pics of the s14 pipe i'm talking about later tonight.
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so you used the stock hotpipe?
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so you used the stock hotpipe?
i have not used it yet. if someone whats to see it let me know.
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i have not used it yet. if someone whats to see it let me know.
opps didn't read the last post correctly. anyways on the s13 kit there was no hotpipe included. so i used the stock one.
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i btw all i got my intercooler yesterday but they sent the wrong piping kit, i needed an s13 kit
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s14 pipe kit



see how the pipe size at the bottom right, is not the same as the pipe at the top. the bottom right pipe is the fender to IC pipe.

kind of dark pic. but you can see the pipe that is sticking in the air stream.
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here are some pics of my hybrid IC on my s14.









it does not fit! the mounting tabs at the top of the IC push the head
light up about 1". so if i lower the IC 1" it would only be about 1/2" lower then the frame of the car. this means that all the brackets do not work. and that was the reason for getting this kit.

it looks good but the lower hot pipe doesn't fit either.
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it does not fit! the mounting tabs at the top of the IC push the head
light up about 1". so if i lower the IC 1" it would only be about 1/2" lower then the frame of the car. this means that all the brackets do not work. and that was the reason for getting this kit.

it looks good but the lower hot pipe doesn't fit either.
have you seen the pictures floating around the internet? it's designed to sit lower than the lip on the S14's. personally, i think that's :ghey:

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have you seen the pictures floating around the internet? it's designed to sit lower than the lip on the S14's. personally, i think that's :ghey:

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would you happen to have a link? my s13 hybrid kit fit perfect. and was not lower then the front frame. in any case i'm going ka-T so most of the pipe would not fit anyways. i guess i'll make a tab ion the top to mount it to the middle rail that holds the hood release like the greddy IC kit.

anyone want the piping off this kit? the cold pipe is for an s14 and the rest could be for s14 or s14. the hot pipe looks to fit the s13 perfectly(2.25 id)
PM me if anyone wants it.
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