Pics of SSR's on my car

[AKADriver]

Lighter steering effort, not lighter weight. Adding scrub radius increases steering effort and bumpsteer. It matters a lot if you have PS disabled...

It's all degrees. lowering ride height by 1.5" or so has a far more minor effect on geometry than the drastic lowering and extremely negative static camber that usually accompanies the ultra low offset wheels.

There are plenty of improvements to be had with larger, wider wheels without radical offset changes. Grip still improves, tire selection still improves, unsprung weight still goes down, and even with a "mistake" +30 wheel, track width increases almost an inch.

I know what I want out of my car, I know plenty about chassis engineering, and I know I don't want wheels that don't fit in the stock unrolled/unpulled bodywork.

[justinhustle]

there is no point in buying wheel for two thousand dollars to have them be as close to stock as possible

i understand taking into the fact of the original sizing and not getting 18x10 +5 but who buys ssr professors in a size like 18x8 +45, you should be shot for wasting cash on crap.

more over, if you bought ssr from a SHOP in that size, they shouldve told you, that would never clear big brakes or coil overs, in which case you got 2k wheels to sit on stock suspension basically and stock calipers.

sorry bout people being overly rude to ya, but they all have valid points, you wasted an assload on useless wheels, minus visable appeal

[AKADriver]

I didn't waste shit, hahaha. I have stock teardrops.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally Posted by AKADriver

I know what I want out of my car, I know plenty about chassis engineering, and I know I don't want wheels that don't fit in the stock unrolled/unpulled bodywork.

You did it again... I never said you have to roll or pull anything. They can fit and look nice without rolling or pulling. Rolling or pulling is only used if you are off by too much, some like the look, some don't, some get flares, some don't. I havent said go super low, or negative offset, I have said choose the right offset for it to be flush. You can be flush at 4 degrees of camber, 1 degree of camber or at 20 degrees positive. Figure out your camber, then figure out the offset. I don't let my wheels choose my cars alignmet, if the need be I'll add spacers or roll the fender (don't know why you are anti rolling, it does nothing but bend a useless lip in the body). The ride height has nothing to do with offsets either, just how your car sits with wheels.

I have my PS and don't ever plan on getting rid of it, car steers faster than I need it to.

[AKADriver]

+43 is definitely on the high side, I'll say that. the rears he got are good though.

you never mentioned fender mods, but Maeda did. apologies.

My beef with rolling is that it increases the risk of the fender rusting (unless it's done before paint), and in our cars in the front there's that wiring harness to deal with. It's not a major beef. I just don't think it's really necessary.

[CreAziaN]

Originally Posted by doriftokouki

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spo...&.dnm=49f6.jpg

and these

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=128172

is that AlphaIntegra on offtopic.com?

[KiDyNomiTe]

he is on every forum...

[Maeda]

Originally Posted by AKADriver

+43 is definitely on the high side, I'll say that. the rears he got are good though.

you never mentioned fender mods, but Maeda did. apologies.

My beef with rolling is that it increases the risk of the fender rusting (unless it's done before paint), and in our cars in the front there's that wiring harness to deal with. It's not a major beef. I just don't think it's really necessary.

Hey where did I mention fender work either smart guy? Looks like you can't read or pick a decent offset.
I said go LOWER, I DID NOT SAY 'go single digit retardedly low' or even 'negative low offset' nor did I mention any 'fender work' (cool in my book but maybe not others). I said get the PROPER offset. Go back to page one. It's still there. +30 is not a proper offset for 18 inches of wheel.

You can roll the fenders without destroying the paint with a heatgun.
Relocate the wiring harness to shield it from the elements as well as the tires.
Anything else you need to know?

[Dousan_PG]

that looks fucking terrible.
what horrible choice and sizing wise. if the offset with lower would be better, dont even need to pul the fenders or anything, just a better offset. but that....horrible. mega sunk and ugly. sure does the job but why not do the same job but look better? fuck that. sell those pos wheels.

[AKADriver]

What the hell does wheel diameter have to do with offset? Width, sure... but an 18x8.5 doesn't have drastically different offset requirements for proper fit than a 16x8.5. What difference there is depends on the tire width each wheel allows, and the slight difference in suspension clearance from the steering axis inclination. Taking those into account, the smaller wheels need lower offsets...

You mentioned fender work in another thread. Apologies again for the confusion.

Fuck it, you're convinced I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm just going to quit now. I KNOW what fits on my car the way I want it to fit, and I KNOW the effects of all these changes. My priorities != your priorities.

[Dousan_PG]

WHO GIVES A FUCK AKA
he likes it so whatever
as far as all that shit it fucks up with various sizes/offsets you can fix most of it with suspension tuning if you take the time and spend the money
some people do some people dont

[AKADriver]

My problem, from the beginning, is thus:

Say someone that doesn't know much comes on asking for wheel size recommendations. People throw out stuff that's optimal for their setup. That's fine. That's to be expected. But when anyone like me dares to point out that there's lots of additional stuff required/recommended to run even a mildly aggressive wheel setup, and that it might not be optimal for everyone, the insults come out and people start calling wheels that fit just fine with no hassles "WRONG."

I just can't stand blanket statements like that... Someone in another thread called an 8" wide, +26 a Honda wheel size... some people have totally lost perspective.

I have nothing better to argue about because I haven't been able to work on my car the past couple weeks. haha. My friend's garage door broke, so no place to go. Weaksauce... My S13 needs new rad hoses and trans oil... my daily needs new rear brake pads... bah. That and I'm pissed that the M2 wheel groupbuys seem to have all simultaneously died, because I wanted some of those 16x8 +27s... close to R32 GT-R stock size which I always thought was a good subtle look on the S13, good match to 225/50s...

Now I'm rambling but at least I'm chilled out.

[AAA240SX]

Originally Posted by AKADriver

My beef with rolling is that it increases the risk of the fender rusting (unless it's done before paint), and in our cars in the front there's that wiring harness to deal with. It's not a major beef. I just don't think it's really necessary.

Rolling the fenders won't cause rust. If it is rolled and a piece of metal is torn or broken, that part will get oxidated and begin to rust. If done properly and there are no surface imperfections (cuts, tears, uneccesary bends, etc.) the modified fender will not rust at all...

I just cut ur slice of beef...

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

wow, that was a big waste of money. Don't ever spend so much money without researching less lazily. Go to anyones websites with SSRs they should have offsets posted. Even with spacers it won't be the same, the lip will look weak.



18x9 +7 18x10 +11

I agree.....that is a waste of money IMO.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by AKADriver

Lighter, more stock-like steering feel with closer to stock geometry.

It might not be your preference, but other people might like it.

I actually like lip, but I've wanted a set of the K1s for years...

Bingo. My plan is higher offset in front, lower offset with relatively higher spring rate in the back. Best of both worlds.

[Maeda]

Originally Posted by AKADriver

My problem, from the beginning, is thus:
I just can't stand blanket statements like that... Someone in another thread called an 8" wide, +26 a Honda wheel size... some people have totally lost perspective.

Yes I agree with you on that. A lot of us have lost perspective. I still stand by what I said though. In my personal opinion something around 17x9.5 +10 would be optimum as far as wheel base.

A lot of people are the new breed of drift ricer and I can understand your animosity. But please, when I bitch it's not because I don't think its JDM driftarr tyte, I say what I say because I honestly believe it'll work better.

Now it's just opions on whats optimum. You say you don't like the scrub radius differences and I say it doesn't make a difference.

Ok lets hug.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Bingo. My plan is higher offset in front, lower offset with relatively higher spring rate in the back. Best of both worlds.

You and your kooky ways, I won't believe any of it until its done and you let me drive your car Once you start talking you go over my head...

[nismo_sr20_wut]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Bingo. My plan is higher offset in front, lower offset with relatively higher spring rate in the back. Best of both worlds.

What he is trying to say is:

"I like sunken wheels and am trying to find an excuse on why I run them."

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally Posted by Maeda

Ok lets hug.

I always knew you were a fruitypants.

[nismo_sr20_wut]

[focused]

Nice wheels, and man, if you like how they fit, fuck everyone else.. it's your car.

[Bbandit]

I know everybody has different taste....

BUT +43 OFFSET??????

D'oh c'mon now...

I myself am pretty embarrased right now everytime I look the wheels on my car... +27 offset is still sunken a bit... let alone +43

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

You and your kooky ways, I won't believe any of it until its done and you let me drive your car Once you start talking you go over my head...

I cant because Dave still has my meshies

[Strategos]

Are these bad bad wheel specs for any 240sx that is going for a better time at drift events? I plan on upgraded brakes and coilovers as well:

18 8.5 5x114.3 30ET
18 9.5 4x114.3 35 ET

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

I cant because Dave still has my meshies

but those are like 15x7 +0, that ruins the whole argument....

[Strategos]

Did I write this down right?

18 8.5 5x114.3 30ET
18 9.5 4x114.3 35ET

I think that's 30+ for the front and 35+ for the rear, would that be a waist or something?

Sorry but I only know what the 18 8.5 and 18 8.5 mean, the rest is all new stuff to me

[Crab Spirits]

I've been waiting to use this...

[Strategos]

I'm asking for a reason here, are these specs any good? I want to fit coilovers in too eventually, asking now so I don't buy the wrong offsets.

18 8.5 5x114.3 30ET
18 9.5 4x114.3 35ET

[KiDyNomiTe]

Well figure DT05Rs come in 17x8.5 +25 17x9.5 +30 and fit just fine, no pulling (not sure on rolling, depends mostly on camber setup). So drop your settings by 5mm, if you want more camber or you like rolling and pulling your fenders then keep lowering.

[dmora79]

Originally Posted by nismo_sr20_wut

Crazy how the same wheel can look so different simply being different specs.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/cr1msonmx5/IMG_1650a.jpg[/MG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/cr1msonmx5/IMG_1654a.jpg[/IG]

what offsets are those?

:edit:
nevermind, i found em....
Seriously you guys are some hard asses.

Im sure the had the same problems i am currently having in trying to research appropriate offsets.
I get such wide variation and everyone saying "USE THE SEARCH" And again comming up with nothing consistent.

I think The ones pictured of "nitekids" are too wide, on top of the fact that NO ONE is using appropriate sized tires. On a 10" wide wheel you should be using 275~295s. From what people are posting it sounds like you are using 225s on rediculously wide wheels.
Thats simply absurd.

I want to have 18x9s all around and hope to fit 265s all around. Even still, those will be my bling wheels and i'll use my R33 GTR wheels for track events.