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nissansilvia89 · 05-13-2003, 08:57 PM

please tell me whats goin on here from what u can see...is this frame damage or can this be fixed for somewhat cheap??

Yoshi · 05-13-2003, 09:43 PM

um... ok.
that's about the tiniest pic of the OUTSIDE of teh car.
If you expect anyone to help you, you first need a decent sized pic of the car jacked up with that wheel off so you can actually see the suspension.

Looking at the rear profile of an off wheel could mean bent rim, bent forward link, bent upper arm, broken shock, broken hub, crushed wheel bearing, bent frame... anything.

No one will be able to diagnose that w/o a detailed picture of the damaged area.

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 04:15 PM

ok heres the updated pic..i think its the upper suspension link but i need help diagnosing it...

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 04:19 PM

your pictures suck..how do you expect us to help you?
get better pictures FIRST.

www.pdm-racing.com
has all your suspension (stock) parts replacement.

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 04:41 PM

ok this one is good and u can see where the bend is

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 04:43 PM

and another from farther away

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 04:43 PM

AHH much better
front toe link

www.pdm-racing.com

http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/pdmcontrolarms.html

cost..not much. install, kids stuff, but you MUST get an alignment afterwards
how are the other arms? check the other 3 to verify it is ok besides that one...

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 04:45 PM

even when its in the rear???

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 04:48 PM

yea ur right so will that fit or ne other suggestions???

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 04:49 PM

sorry my bad
its front toe link (closest rear arm to front of car)
i couldnt tell the angle from one of the pics
front toe link is 'top'

rear toe link is the furthest (back of car) arm...

that's front. my mistake, pdm has it!

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 04:51 PM

so thats a 91 dollar part i gotta buy?? do u think autozone would have that lol just wonderin?? o yea do u have ne clue of the part #???

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 04:54 PM

you dont need a part number at autozone, just tell them your car year and what you need....

front toe link should work
if not, draw a small pic or bring the part in (best way)!

cost..$$$ all arms are.

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 05:17 PM

well im just gonna get it from there bc its closer...here some more pics of the car...can u take a look at the gearbox pic and notcie how offline that is...its in nuetral there..ne suggetions..other than that the cars good...and i got it for 350$

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 06:02 PM

that car is a POS
i would use it ONLY for part salvage.and doesnt seem has that much

RBS14 · 05-14-2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
that car is a POS
i would use it ONLY for part salvage.and doesnt seem has that much

good thing u didn't word ur opinion bluntly! haha

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 06:43 PM

y do u say that name whats wrong with it???

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 06:45 PM

and what ground do u stand on callin my car a peice of **** what do u have???

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 06:46 PM

haha
dont take everything so serious
my car sucks too
im surprised it still runs

relax.

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 07:25 PM

seriously though its my project car i drive a 95 gs-r for my regular car..that 240 runs and really the only real things that are wrong with it is that front toe link and then i need lug studs which i ordered tuesday and they should be here thurs or friday..and then im a master with fiberglass and body filler so that will be gone...but other than that i just need the chassis bc august 1 im orderin a ca18det for it so the cars sweet i think for what its being used for and how much i spent on it

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 07:27 PM

sounds good
hope you can get those problemos fixed!

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 07:28 PM

ill post pics this sunday of the finished product and the car in its current state then tell me what u think

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 07:32 PM

sounds good
here's the latest pic of me and my car. more pics later....in middle of 5 lug swap and all sorts of other modifications..ugh...

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 07:36 PM

whatd runnin under that hood..that thing is bad *** man

Dousan_PG · 05-14-2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nissansilvia89
whatd runnin under that hood..that thing is bad *** man

100% stock KA
turbo is over rated. KA has the power
its about the driver, and ANYONE can do what i do. dont need turbo or SR or CA.

i put my money to suspension. ive got 3 arms left to replace and 1 roll cage (6 pt) to add. tht's it. suspension is 100% done for me. brakes done, interior--missing bucket seat...that's it. engine up late 2003/2004 early

Yoshi · 05-14-2003, 08:07 PM

new pix are much better showing the damage, dousan's got the info for ya on the fix, but after looking at that collage pic of the damage, are you sure the chassis is straight? it looks the like poor car was low-speed t-boned, and the contact car had an engine fire...

Judging from the visible rotor, the thing has obviously been sitting for quite a while... u really might wanna consider it a parts car and shop for another cheap 240 for your project car :/

nissansilvia89 · 05-14-2003, 08:17 PM

well ok the final desicion will be made when i take it to the shop..but it prolly was t-boned...but the burning was the result of me just learning how to torch braze lol so thats nothin to worry about but i mean i think it should be fine...and how can u tell frame damage from those pics???

Yoshi · 05-14-2003, 10:02 PM

well ok the final desicion will be made when i take it to the shop..
make sure you take it to a place that has laser alignment tools to check the frame, odds are it's tweaked somewhat

but it prolly was t-boned...
If it was t-boned then the odds are VERY good that there's frame damage, that's just how it goes :/

but the burning was the result of me just learning how to torch braze lol so thats nothin to worry about but i mean i think it should be fine...
hahaha

so u any good at it now?

and how can u tell frame damage from those pics???
again, it's just that the odds are stacked against you, that and I have personal experience with tweaking unibodies a little

Given the right angles, it really doesn't take much of an impact to push a unibody out of alignment, that's just how it goes.

nissansilvia89 · 05-15-2003, 05:21 AM

welll judging by my assesments it wasnt t-boned as the angle that it was it is more of a 45 than a 90 so im guessing it was hit with the front fender of another car and then the other car hit and bounced off....sooo it should be ok lol im crossing my fingers!!!..and yes im gettin a little better lol but ne suggestions on welding with a torch welder like what kinda of welding rods to buy>????

05-13-2003, 09:43 PM	#2
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	um... ok. that's about the tiniest pic of the OUTSIDE of teh car. If you expect anyone to help you, you first need a decent sized pic of the car jacked up with that wheel off so you can actually see the suspension. Looking at the rear profile of an off wheel could mean bent rim, bent forward link, bent upper arm, broken shock, broken hub, crushed wheel bearing, bent frame... anything. No one will be able to diagnose that w/o a detailed picture of the damaged area. __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

05-14-2003, 04:19 PM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	your pictures suck..how do you expect us to help you? get better pictures FIRST. www.pdm-racing.com has all your suspension (stock) parts replacement. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-14-2003, 04:43 PM	#7
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	AHH much better front toe link www.pdm-racing.com http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/pdmcontrolarms.html cost..not much. install, kids stuff, but you MUST get an alignment afterwards how are the other arms? check the other 3 to verify it is ok besides that one... __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira Last edited by Dousan_PG; 05-14-2003 at 04:48 PM..

05-14-2003, 04:49 PM	#10
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	sorry my bad its front toe link (closest rear arm to front of car) i couldnt tell the angle from one of the pics front toe link is 'top' rear toe link is the furthest (back of car) arm... that's front. my mistake, pdm has it! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-14-2003, 04:54 PM	#12
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	you dont need a part number at autozone, just tell them your car year and what you need.... front toe link should work if not, draw a small pic or bring the part in (best way)! cost..$$$ all arms are. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-14-2003, 04:45 PM	#8
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	even when its in the rear???

05-14-2003, 04:48 PM	#9
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea ur right so will that fit or ne other suggestions???

05-14-2003, 04:51 PM	#11
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so thats a 91 dollar part i gotta buy?? do u think autozone would have that lol just wonderin?? o yea do u have ne clue of the part #???

05-14-2003, 06:02 PM	#14
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	that car is a POS i would use it ONLY for part salvage.and doesnt seem has that much __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-14-2003, 06:43 PM	#16
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	y do u say that name whats wrong with it???

05-14-2003, 06:45 PM	#17
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and what ground do u stand on callin my car a peice of **** what do u have???

05-14-2003, 06:46 PM	#18
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	haha dont take everything so serious my car sucks too im surprised it still runs relax. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-14-2003, 07:25 PM	#19
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	seriously though its my project car i drive a 95 gs-r for my regular car..that 240 runs and really the only real things that are wrong with it is that front toe link and then i need lug studs which i ordered tuesday and they should be here thurs or friday..and then im a master with fiberglass and body filler so that will be gone...but other than that i just need the chassis bc august 1 im orderin a ca18det for it so the cars sweet i think for what its being used for and how much i spent on it

05-14-2003, 07:27 PM	#20
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	sounds good hope you can get those problemos fixed! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-14-2003, 07:28 PM	#21
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ill post pics this sunday of the finished product and the car in its current state then tell me what u think

05-14-2003, 07:32 PM	#22
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	sounds good here's the latest pic of me and my car. more pics later....in middle of 5 lug swap and all sorts of other modifications..ugh... __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-14-2003, 07:36 PM	#23
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whatd runnin under that hood..that thing is bad *** man

05-14-2003, 08:07 PM	#25
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	new pix are much better showing the damage, dousan's got the info for ya on the fix, but after looking at that collage pic of the damage, are you sure the chassis is straight? it looks the like poor car was low-speed t-boned, and the contact car had an engine fire... Judging from the visible rotor, the thing has obviously been sitting for quite a while... u really might wanna consider it a parts car and shop for another cheap 240 for your project car :/ __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

05-14-2003, 08:17 PM	#26
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well ok the final desicion will be made when i take it to the shop..but it prolly was t-boned...but the burning was the result of me just learning how to torch braze lol so thats nothin to worry about but i mean i think it should be fine...and how can u tell frame damage from those pics???

05-14-2003, 10:02 PM	#27
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well ok the final desicion will be made when i take it to the shop.. make sure you take it to a place that has laser alignment tools to check the frame, odds are it's tweaked somewhat but it prolly was t-boned... If it was t-boned then the odds are VERY good that there's frame damage, that's just how it goes :/ but the burning was the result of me just learning how to torch braze lol so thats nothin to worry about but i mean i think it should be fine... hahaha so u any good at it now? and how can u tell frame damage from those pics??? again, it's just that the odds are stacked against you, that and I have personal experience with tweaking unibodies a little Given the right angles, it really doesn't take much of an impact to push a unibody out of alignment, that's just how it goes.

05-15-2003, 05:21 AM	#28
nissansilvia89 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville, OH Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	welll judging by my assesments it wasnt t-boned as the angle that it was it is more of a 45 than a 90 so im guessing it was hit with the front fender of another car and then the other car hit and bounced off....sooo it should be ok lol im crossing my fingers!!!..and yes im gettin a little better lol but ne suggestions on welding with a torch welder like what kinda of welding rods to buy>????

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