What Happened?? Because Driftcar...Somewhere along the way we missed the point...

[OBEEWON]

Discussion:

Drifting is getting more popular and that makes me happy. But it is also getting way to serious and losing what made it so cool, the style...and that makes me sad.

Somewhere along the way we forgot that above all things...cars are supposed to look cool. (No matter what you do with them)

The reason for this is...

1. If by chance you lose, you look cool doing so.
2. Women will bear children for you.
3. If someone missed the live event, the photo's of the event wont be gay.
4. I said so.
5. Your wife should handle well and have a good personality, but if she looks like regurgitated cole-slaw you would never procreate.

No care how fast it is or how awesome the yaw moment, or akerman of this vehicle. no one wants to watch it do anything but have a caravan dropped on it or maybe explode.


This goes out to beautiful slidy cars:

[wh0aitznic0]

Subscribed for the truth.

Couldn't have said it any better.

[c72c]

I've had the same discussion with a few others locally. I get laughed at for wanting our track car to look good. Even if we end up smashing it, you can bet I'd still be out there fixing it so it won't look that bad... others just see a track car as a beater.
To each their own.

[Driftius_Maximus]

I agree. Let's keep drifting fun AND sexy!

[OBEEWON]

Is it too late?

Most of the OG dudes are gone. I'm about done myself. The D1 split is proof $#!t just got way to real.

[c72c]

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Is it too late?

Most of the OG dudes are gone. I'm about done myself. The D1 split is proof $#!t just got way to real.

Too late?
Think of it this way, the less other people are doing it, the more track time for you.

[Mikey McFly]

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Is it too late?

Most of the OG dudes are gone. I'm about done myself. The D1 split is proof $#!t just got way to FAKE.

Fixed.

I hate how you can see car sponsored by all of these knock off brand and all that lame ish.
No one tunes their cars up as much as they did back in the day.
I liked the whole drifting scene where it used to be the shops in Japan battling it out to see who had the best tuned car and the most ballsy driver.
Its what I imagine jousting would have been like. Towns with big, bad ass, brolic horses with ballsy iron cladded guys charging at each other.
HKS vs. Greddy
Blitz vs. Apexi
Signal Auto vs. Top Secret

Those were some fun, sexy, exciting times.
All the cars were flashy.
Drivers pushed it for the fans and to rep their company.

My favorite of all the drift cars no matter what anyone thinks.
It was just one car, tuned for three different things. Drag, Circuit, and Drift.
It was sexy and it put out.

[Toi]

Originally Posted by Mikey McFly

I hate how you can see car sponsored by all of these knock off brand and all that lame ish.

That right there shows you and half of these other band wagons KNOW NOTHING about what goes on over here in Japan.

Little Note:

Japan is KNOCK OFF CENTRAL, they take the blue prints from other companies and build their own stuff, just like isis, meagan, UPGARAGE, buddy club, and the list can go on and on.

Funny thing is a lot of hard core togue drifters are not running name brand shit, they are running your so called knock offs........

[blingbling]

Originally Posted by Toi

That right there shows you and half of these other band wagons KNOW NOTHING about what goes on over here in Japan.

Little Note:

Japan is KNOCK OFF CENTRAL, they take the blue prints from other companies and build their own stuff, just like isis, meagan, UPGARAGE, buddy club, and the list can go on and on.

Funny thing is a lot of hard core togue drifters are not running name brand shit, they are running your so called knock offs........

Something inside me just dies when you say this its so funny. After all the arguements over knock off shit I've seen on this forum THIS gets posted. Win.
Back on subject. I don't drift my car, 1 because I suck and 2 because Ill be dammed before I fuck up an unmolested kouki doing something I already know Im bad at.

[kOOpA]

A large portion of drifting has gone from "Look what I can do with this cool looking car!" to "Look how much better I am than you, nevermind what my car looks like, 100% of my focus is performance".

You only have so much money, if you want to be Pokemon master, you probably just won't have time/money to make your car look cool, it'll be spent elsewhere.

Nothing wrong with either mindset, really, I think the two groups of people should just be more accepting of the other. I hate the idea of being looked down on because I don't care about doing competitions. To me, drifting is just skateboarding with a car, it's just doing cool shit with an object. In skateboarding, you NEVER see competitive dudes talking shit on street dudes; if anything, it's the other way around. I think in time, it will be the same way with drifting. Right now, there's just not a lot of room for those who just do it for the sake of having a cool looking car doing cool things. But we do need these more serious guys to pave the way to getting new venues. So it all works out in the end.

Just do your thing, disregard ugly cars, hahaha.

[OBEEWON]

Originally Posted by kOOpA

"Look how much better I am than you, nevermind what my car looks like, 100% of my focus is performance".

Nail hit on the head right here.

A LOT of one upping going on.

Like this angle thing. It's gotten so out of control people are entering turns backwards.

So lame.

No ammount of Hot Version or Drift Tengoku is getting me excite anymore.

[deolio]

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

A LOT of one upping going on.

Like this angle thing. It's gotten so out of control

it's the american way.

backwards entries are sweet as long as it doesn't bring the car's speed down dramatically or change the line.

[the_boss]

It seems like this happens with all underground movement. Once it gets too popular it just becomes trouble. Gets twisted to wrong ideas and the wrong people. And usually the roots are forgotten to how it all started.

[OBEEWON]

Dang Zar.

PERFECT post man. Perfect. And Darius is 100% on point.

Originally Posted by deolio

it's the american way.

backwards entries are sweet as long as it doesn't bring the car's speed down dramatically or change the line.

So true. I've yet to see this accomplished. I want to punch cars that almost come to a stop doing this bullshiggity.

Originally Posted by the_boss

It seems like this happens with all underground movement. Once it gets too popular it just becomes trouble. Gets twisted to wrong ideas and the wrong people. And usually the roots are forgotten to how it all started.

So true.

But even though some of this foolishness is creeping in everywhere, there are places that are still doing it right. But America seems to be messing up so bad.

Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

I don't know about other areas, but DRAMA is definitely making drifting gay in the north east. It's like highschool in some places; it's pathetic.

FFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marcus]

I believe in this 100%. Every event I wash and wax my car before drifting it into the dirt. I only desire to drift in a super low car.

Btw, mad mikes fd was the most exciting drift car. I think was in 05 or 06 at irwindale, his car was ear drum ripping louuddd.

[Flicktitty]

Do you guy's remember when people asked what you had/what you were into and you said 240sx, and they said ughhh what's that? or laughed cause it wasn't a Honda/Acura. now look at the "scene" all those people have these cars now and are the fanboys ruining these cars.

my .02 but cool pics.

[ManoNegra]

Agree with most of what OB is saying
I don't practice it but I like drifting, or the idea of it
and I like clean cars
but don't necessarily care for fake parts, bell bottom kits, sparkle paint, or silly all over vinyl

what most of you consider a cool car
just looks cheap and gaudy to me
just my opinion

[illvialuver]

You know, this brings me to another point.
When someone asks me what kinda car I drive and I tell them a 96 240sx, I almost feel embarassed, because no matter how much I love my car and will never seperate with it, I just hate the situation, because I know they think that my car is primered, has crappy wheels and sounds like shit, and has all kindsa cheap and crapy parts on it. It is even worse, if I am talking to another automotive enthusiast like the guys at the "cars and coffee" meet in Irvine, because they drive functional and baller ass cars, and I feel like people look down on drifters because of the guys that have zipties on everything, and leave them sticking out so you can see them, and they are bright neon colors. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, but it gets to me. Also, because of this alot of people think drifting is a joke, and that leads me to their follow up question, so you drift it? If most peopled cared about their car looking nicer, even if it was stock body, I think other people would respect it more. On another note, I don't give a damn, because I will love it and my car regardless of what other people thinking.

[94spitfire91]

In America it seems like rules and guidelines are restricting a lot of people from having fun at a course one day. For me i would love to drift at a track for fun but i have been denied because my car does not have a proper roll cage that meets their standards so basically Im not happy with the over sensitive rules i have run into. I would love to see a more laid back car culture that is not too strict

[Dustxking]

+10000 I think about this everyday.
Oh and i love how alot of those cars are right here in the NW!

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I was really hoping this thread would make it's way here from TST.

Definitely agree with you, OB. It's getting pathetic. :/

[TeamFRAT]

I think my biggest pet peeve is kind of what flicktitty was getting at. People IMMEDIATLY assume we have primered piles of shit.

[tricky_ab]

Originally Posted by TeamFRAT

I think my biggest pet peeve is kind of what flicktitty was getting at. People IMMEDIATLY assume we have primered piles of shit.

Seriously cosigned 100% I like great looking cars. Now if they happen to be drifting EVEN BETTER

Oh and OP for Zilvia presidency...

[dat411kid]

Agree with most of it....

I especially dislike the fact that you need 600HP to be competitive...It's making it harder for privateers to take part....Nowadays I feel like the definition of cool for many is a souped up American motor with ridiculous power...

GRASSROOTS>

[Flicktitty]

Originally Posted by dat411kid

GRASSROOTS>

I agree, Drifting has taken the "fun" and "anyone can do it" out of it.

Hell the first drift event i ever went to was the RS*R Drift day in Chicago in 2004

the "family" and fun. and the EXCITEMENT was crazy. and that was before the peak for drifting in the midwest.

i'm no where near active in the drifting community as i'm not a huge drift fan. but it's what helped and killed the 240sx scene in 1 large swoop.

[Lukasss]

I cant say that im really into drifting, or an elder member.
But i do respect the past, and what has happened, and what they did to make a small revolution..kinda.

It seemed like it was more of a lifestyle or hobby then.
now it seems like every kid with a Supreme hoody needs to be "hellaflush"

No offense to anyone that wears that stuff.

[redhatchy92]

+999999999999999

[NickIsAZero]

I'm really just sick of the whole 240 = You're a drifter mindset... I don't own the nicest 240's, but damned if they're not atleast descent looking. It's rare to see one that doesn't have mix-matched body panels/rims. That's just emberassing and gives other enthusiasts a bad name I think. Don't get me started with crazy colored zip-ties busting out of every "drift scar" you got from backing out of your parents driveway with your welded diff hoppin all over the fucking place.

"What do you drive?"
If you're another 240 owner I'll tell you "a kouki" if you're not I'll say a "240".
The next thing they ask is... "So you're into drifting huh?"
NO! It's cool to watch, but it's not something I really care to do. I like to go fast through turns, not tear the fuck out of my tires and damage parts I've worked hard for. I'll go to the local 1/4mile every now & then, run an auto-x and checkout a drift event here & there.
"Oh so you're into GRIP racing then?"
WTF!?!?! Since when can you just not build a car to perform? Just because you have a RWD platform doesn't mean you're out to be the new DK. Do people ask Mustang, Miata & Firebird owners if they're only into drifting? Com'on...

I love seeing nicely done, extravagant track cars. I hate seeing busted up 240's rolling around, or even on the track that look like piles of shit. It's your car, take some pride in it. Atleast keep it looking descent. Stop spending money on stickers & Nardi wheels and buy a fucking bumper, maybe even drop some money and repaint the car one color. Do somethin!

[aKaFlipSide]

Originally Posted by NickIsAZero

Don't get me started with crazy colored zip-ties busting out of every "drift scar" you got from backing out of your parents driveway with your welded diff hoppin all over the fucking place.

I literally lol'd.

[all show no go]

All this shit, all this shit said about looking cool. I don't know how to say it , but I think I'm tired of thinking about all this & not seeing it for so long that I really don't care if I see it at all anymore. It's too late for me to "care". I can understand v8's & their use for effective & fun power. If someone offered a free v8 swap fuck it, I really don't care. I will have fun I'm sure & I will style my car my way. I'm so tired of nearly everything about drifting lately. I just love drifting with my nephew once in a while, just like I like to skateboard once in a while.

To me, "making rules" of how drifting should look like no matter if you're talking about v8's in s13's or every car HAVING to look like Magician, is taking drifting itself too seriously.


GET REAL not everyone is going to look like Japan.