rim width

[gumbygrys15]

Hi, I was wondering if have some help making a rim width decision. I have an 96 s14. Hear is the problem 17x8 or 17x9 front and rear. I want the same size rims front and back along with tires for equal balance. Normally I would go with the 17x9, but the 17x8 are 1.2 lbs lighter. I would be running 245 width tire and around 360-380hp. Also am I going to run into rubbing problems in the front. Thanks for your help.

[North240]

my vote is 17x9 but there is tons of info and feedback that can be found with a quick search.

[TheTimanator]

first of all...1.2 lbs is a small sacrifice to get a wider wheel. Especially if you reach your power goals. Plus a 245 will fit better on a 9" wide rim and you can go wider later if you want where you would be limited with a skinnier rim.

As far as rubbing goes. You need to post the offset of the wheels since that will determine whether or not it's gonna fit.

[mjjstang]

yah im looking at rims right now too, I really want a 17x9 but there is limited offering in 4 lug and im NOT spending money to convert to 5 lug, thats silly, although im prolly gonna get bashed, anyhow, I think im going to have to go 8 inch, I wanted to run a 245 but might just go with a 235, i also will have a hp range similar to yours. well see what happens. but yah if your only concerned with the wheight, then forget it, the extra inch is well worth it in my eyes, as long as you get a good offset.

[nokeone]

there are LOTS of 17x9 decent offset 4 lug wheels out there...you just have to do some hunting...


i would go 17x9 no question...you wont have fitment issues assuming you choose your offset correctly...anywhere in the +15 range and you will be fine...

[aznpoopy]

17x9 +20mm 4x114.3 fn01r-c

splparts.com

[OMGWTFBBQ]

^^^
word
I have a set for sale right now

[mjjstang]

wait wtf thats exactly what i want
i looked at slp they dont have 4x114.3 in 9 inch link please.

edit, how did i miss the little special section, too bad it requires rolling.

[Nizzan4u2nv]

Originally Posted by mjjstang

wait wtf thats exactly what i want
i looked at slp they dont have 4x114.3 in 9 inch link please.

Guess you didnt look hard enough.

http://www.splparts.com/Parts/Univer...en/default.htm

[nokeone]

Originally Posted by mjjstang

wait wtf thats exactly what i want
i looked at slp they dont have 4x114.3 in 9 inch link please.

edit, how did i miss the little special section, too bad it requires rolling.

rolling?...no way....30 min, for all 4 corners, with a hammer to those inner fender lip things and it'll fit fine...add some minor camber and you'll be pimpin...(they just say rolling required to cover their asses since with totally stock fenders and no camber you'd rub a lil)

i ran 17x9 +9 offset on stock s13 fenders with just the lip hammered up...2 degrees camber (and i didn't even NEED that much, just wanted it)

[mjjstang]

yes but when s14db showed me this:



I immediately tried to find a local eastwood roller that might be circulating the Michigan streets, btw I just ordered these 17x9 +20 for s13 in hyper black, with some 245/40 MX's

[TheTimanator]

with 245's you will at least need a roll. nokeone was probably running 215/45's or something. Obviously, the car you posted is on a shock/spring combo which is a toally different world then when your running coilovers as far as fitment goes....I swear I have seen pics with those size/offsets and 235's without a pull and they cleared but I could be wrong and I'm too tired to go look for it now

[nokeone]

Originally Posted by TheTimanator

with 245's you will at least need a roll. nokeone was probably running 215/45's or something. Obviously, the car you posted is on a shock/spring combo which is a toally different world then when your running coilovers as far as fitment goes....I swear I have seen pics with those size/offsets and 235's without a pull and they cleared but I could be wrong and I'm too tired to go look for it now

good call, i totally spaced on tire size...

you are correct..i run 215/45 up front and 225/45 rear so yeah it's a little easier i guess..

sorry about that...


buuuuut i still think it would be a very easy fit with minor effort on your part regarding the fenders...coilovers and a lil camber do wonders for fitment also..

yeah, hammered fenders, no pull required...

do it!..it's easy and you will love how it looks when your wheels fit nicely..

[Dousan_PG]

rolling fenders does not require some stupid fender roller
just like neokone said
hammer and some time
done
rolled
and way faster
and costs maybe 12 bucks for the mallet.

[gumbygrys15]

Does the extra inch of rim outway the advantage of the 1.2 lbs lighter wheel. The Offset I would run 17x8 30 or 35, 17x9 21 or 30. So I will need to buy wide body fender (20mm wider) or roll the fenders.

[TheTimanator]

Originally Posted by gumbygrys15

Does the extra inch of rim outway the advantage of the 1.2 lbs lighter wheel. The Offset I would run 17x8 30 or 35, 17x9 21 or 30. So I will need to buy wide body fender (20mm wider) or roll the fenders.

If you reach your power goal...I would say the 1.2 lbs is totally negliable. Even if you don't I'd still personally go with the 17x9's with the +21 offset. You shouldn't need to go with a wide body fender...S14 fenders are pretty big. Buythe 17x9 +21 with the 245's and if they don't clear...figure out how make them fit

[S13 Charlie]

Do yourself a favor and go with the 17 x 9's. Are you running coilovers? If so, you'll need to get around a +20 or lower offset to use that size tire in the front. If you're making that kind of power, then 1.2 lbs per wheel is so negligible considering the wider track that the 9" wheel will give you. Put it this way, it's the difference between having 40 lbs/corner or 38.8 lbs/corner. And unless this is a dedicated track car, most of us would never be able to tell the difference.

[mjjstang]

it depends. thats a question that you will have to answer yourself, do you need beefy tires? what will you be doing with your car?

[DoriftoSlut]

Even if it IS a dedicated track car... with that power, the need for wider wheels heavily outweighs the weight savings. I mean.... if F1 cars (dedicated track cars in the utmost sense) were so concerned about this 1.2 lbs per corner of unsprung weight (it'd make a much larger difference on F1 car than a 240sx) then why wouldn't they go from a 13x15 to a 13x12 (a 1 inch decrease in wheel width is not going to produce the same weight savings as your commercially available 17x8/17x9s. Those are extremely heavy compared to an F1 wheel).



F1 car needs a 15 inch wide wheel. Your car needs a 10 inch wheel but for some reason you are limiting yourself to 8 or.. MAYBE 9. Go for 9 no questions asked. i would go 9 in front 10 in rear. Any day of the week.

[s13coupedude]

I'm having a horrible time finding any good 4 lug rims myself. The 5zigens are about the only ones I can find. Can anyoen direct me to a few more?

[OptionZero]

Originally Posted by s13coupedude

I'm having a horrible time finding any good 4 lug rims myself. The 5zigens are about the only ones I can find. Can anyoen direct me to a few more?

SEARCH

Grenades GX01 or somethin (A Spec Products will supply you)
Mustang Cobra (ebay, $500 or less for a set of 17x9)
aaforementioned SPL Fns

[i8yourfwd]

Originally Posted by OptionZero

SEARCH

Grenades GX01 or somethin (A Spec Products will supply you)
Mustang Cobra (ebay, $500 or less for a set of 17x9)
aaforementioned SPL Fns

How heavy are those mustang wheels? And what's 4x114.3 converted to "standard" sizing?

[!Zar!]

Originally Posted by i8yourfwd

How heavy are those mustang wheels? And what's 4x114.3 converted to "standard" sizing?

It's 4x4.50 for 4x114.3

It's 5x4.50 for 5x114.3

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by OptionZero

SEARCH

Grenades GX01 or somethin (A Spec Products will supply you)
Mustang Cobra (ebay, $500 or less for a set of 17x9)
aaforementioned SPL Fns

just another on the list

4x114.3 16x8+10mm rota grids

[!Zar!]

Man, if you're only worried about 1.2 lbs...

Just urinate before you go for a drive. :P

[mikesim]

i know people are going to knock the name, but you could get Motegi Touge's.

they have a variety of 4 lug sizes. 17X9 +24, 18x9 +12, and 18X10 +30. i don't know if you'll need rolling with the 18X9's.

also, consider what tires you'll be using. if you buy 245/40/17 falken zeix 512, or the FK452, you'd be better off buying a 17X8, taking the weight savings and cash savings and buying a better tire like the azenis 615 or advan 048 in 225/45/17

[DoriftoSlut]

-10 points for that last post.

a.) Suggesting Motegi Touges

b.) For running a norrower rim and tyre

c.) Canada Fail.



Why not run 17x9 and a 245 RT615 (or imho Advan AD07)

[supportTHEezln]

I agree that if it's between a 9" and 8" get the 9", but you could still run a 245 on an 8" rim. And you find 4/5 lug combo rims all the time on yahoo auctions for very good prices/sizes/offsets. I'm actually thinking about buying a shitload and selling them here, haha.

[Angel]

Originally Posted by DoriftoSlut

-10 points for that last post.

a.) Suggesting Motegi Touges

b.) For running a norrower rim and tyre

c.) Canada Fail.



Why not run 17x9 and a 245 RT615 (or imho Advan AD07)

He was suggesting that with the caveat that the poster use the money saved to run better rubber. Better rubber is far more important than just about any other factor when discussing wheel and tire setups. Still best to run the wider wheel and wider stickier tire.

[OptionZero]

i'm fairly certain that a 225/45/17 RT-615 will outgrip f 245/45/17 Ziex 512...the ziex isn't a performance tire at all, it's for you to put on your mom's Accord to drive to the grocery store every day