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koukispec · 04-13-2006, 12:44 PM

any1 got any reviews on the 2 coilover systems? also a comparison? i no silkroads r a lot cheaper than kei office, but has any1 had first hand experience of both? i am in the market for coilovers right now and im not too tight with the money thats goin to be spent, also any1 else have any opinions of any other coilovers? btw these r going on a 1997 240sx, i already did a search and couldnt find any good write ups or anything about these 2 brands, thanx for the input

usdm180sx · 04-13-2006, 12:48 PM

Kei Office coilovers aren't available anymore. What was Kei Office is now known as DG5 in Japan.

koukispec · 04-13-2006, 12:52 PM

im probably gonna get the kei office used, thanks for the head up though, any other input?

ericb382 · 04-13-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by usdmsilvia

Kei Office coilovers aren't available anymore. What was Kei Office is now known as DG5 in Japan.

Does that make it any harder to get them rebuilt than it already was, or will DG5 recognise Kei Office and rebuild them?

!Zar! · 04-13-2006, 01:10 PM

What are you going to do when time comes for rebuild?

If the coils can't be serviced, then they sound useless imo.

DJPimpFlex · 04-13-2006, 01:23 PM

^even if they do its still a pita to send your shit out to japan to have it rebuilt. KTS's are great for the money. Ive driven on silkroads, and the name says it all, its like driving on silk roads. There not dampened as agressively as the KTS's. Both are compareable and very good.

koukispec · 04-13-2006, 01:26 PM

o i forgot to mention that the car is gonna be used for a daily driver and some track use, mostly drifting, i no that tein HE's r good enough for the job, but i guess i just wanna get something different than wat most people get

supportTHEezln · 04-13-2006, 01:28 PM

There's a ton of places to get coilovers rebuilt locally for faster and cheaper then sending them to the manufacturer.

***FaLKoN240*** · 04-13-2006, 01:33 PM

If I was gonna get some coilovers for daily driving, they would not be some fancy pants hard to rebuild coils for sure awe factor.

If you want to be different, get like. . .a crazy paint job or something.

I would get something that I can have minimal downtime on when a rebuild comes.

koukispec · 04-13-2006, 02:28 PM

uh....so any1 got any input on the 2 brands? heh

or any other brands? ^ also its not only for daily driving, track and drift use also thanks

punxva · 04-13-2006, 02:34 PM

one word, search, there are tons of threads that were made by people like u who want a DD and a weekend warrior, just look for coilovers, in the search field and im sure you'll find more than enough information to satisfy your itch

fatalfury64 · 04-13-2006, 03:26 PM

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

drift freaq · 04-13-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fatalfury64

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

YOu have N1 EXV's they are a lot different than Apex N1's as in pro's. Plus your valving is different than the Megans. On top of that Megan does not make Megan they market them. Megan's are made in a factory in Taiwan that sells to lots of different people.

kensreliableb18b · 04-13-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fatalfury64

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

yuck, megans and apex are NOT the same.

Dousan_PG · 04-13-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fatalfury64

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

dont spread myths and rumours
they arent the same.

Irukandji · 04-13-2006, 03:34 PM

I've ridden on Kei office XR's and I was pretty impressed. The ride was very smooth and dampening worked well. Very little body roll and smooth ride. I can't say much more because I wasn't the one driving.

I know a few people on the boards have Kei Office coilovers.. maybe they can chime in.

OptionZero · 04-13-2006, 04:11 PM

dude, you fail.

Apexi' coilover breakdown
N1 Pro = the pimp shit
N1 Type V = variant of the pimp shit
World Sport = american market crap
N1 ExV = entry level, NOT MADE BY MEGAN

Search for the megan and exV threads and educate yourself

drift freaq · 04-13-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

dude, you fail.

Apexi' coilover breakdown
N1 Pro = the pimp shit
N1 Type V = variant of the pimp shit
World Sport = american market crap
N1 ExV = entry level, NOT MADE BY MEGAN

Search for the megan and exV threads and educate yourself

yo Option , they discontinued the World Sports. N1ExV is its replacement.

OptionZero · 04-13-2006, 04:50 PM

they're still around on ebay sometimes, left overstock cuz they sucked so bad i guess

n1 line is revamped too now: N1 circuit, drift, and street...NONE MADE BY MEGAN, fury

Ricks15 · 04-14-2006, 08:23 PM

Was the main reason why the Kei office coils are no longer made was because of the fact they would break very easily??

koukispec · 04-14-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricks15

Was the main reason why the Kei office coils are no longer made was because of the fact they would break very easily??

yes i would like to know this also, does any1 know the reason y kei office decided to stop production and change their name?

koukispec · 04-14-2006, 11:28 PM

also i kinda like something wit a high spring rate, i think silkroads r 8/7? anything above that, mayb like 10/8? i hate body roll heh

EBRAKEFANATIC · 04-14-2006, 11:34 PM

Here are some specs on the Silroads'

*8-way adjustable
*Pyro-Ball upper mounts
*Spring rates:
S14 - 8.0/7.0kg
S13 - 8.0/6.0kg
RS13/RPS13 - 8.0/7.0kg
*Adj. front Pillow Ball
*Rigid aluminium rear mount
*Inverted monotube dampers

I just installed them and they are great. I had sportline springs but coilovers and deffinetely better. I have a s14 so, the 8/7 is sometimes a little harsh for daily driving but handling improvements are amazing. I sacrifice comfort for control. Very worth the $$$

snatch13 · 04-15-2006, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by koukispec

also i kinda like something wit a high spring rate, i think silkroads r 8/7? anything above that, mayb like 10/8? i hate body roll heh

If you are going to be daily driving this car, you aren't going to want to drive on anything stiffer than 8/7 or 9/7. You are going to have to sacrifice in certain areas if you are building a car that is going to be streetable and run on the track.

andy31144 · 04-15-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by koukispec

also i kinda like something wit a high spring rate, i think silkroads r 8/7? anything above that, mayb like 10/8? i hate body roll heh

I'm pretty sure you can get Silkroads with custom spring rates if that's really what you want.

axiomatik · 04-14-2006, 10:01 PM

I just got silkroads. Nicely damped, firm without being harsh. No experience with Kei Office, though. For rebuilding, I'd have to send it to japan, but from what I hear, they are pretty fast.

DavidC · 04-15-2006, 11:04 AM

i been running on my kei office xr for maybe 1.5 -2 years and they are great...plenty of events, daily, and canyon.

axiomatik · 04-15-2006, 03:10 PM

If you really want stiffer spring rates, consider Tanabe Sevens, they're spring rate is 10/8. They probably won't be much more expensive than a set of silkroads with custom spring rates. However, for daily driving, I would think twice about that high of a spring rate. Just upgrading to coilovers will greatly reduce body roll, and if afterwards you still think there is too much roll, get larger sway bars, which will allow you to reduce roll without hurting ride comfort. As mentioned above, spring rate cannot be changed without swapping out the springs for a different set. Coilovers are damping adjustable.

PoorMans180SX · 04-20-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nbrindley

However, for daily driving, I would think twice about that high of a spring rate. Just upgrading to coilovers will greatly reduce body roll, and if afterwards you still think there is too much roll, get larger sway bars, which will allow you to reduce roll without hurting ride comfort. As mentioned above, spring rate cannot be changed without swapping out the springs for a different set. Coilovers are damping adjustable.

+1 for this^^

redsuns3838 · 04-15-2006, 03:28 PM

silk road has springs available on their website and thru any dealer. while u probably cant get different springs ON the coilovers, theyre like 100 a spring i believe and even with that the price comes out to about the same as DG5s. doesnt it?

well put nbrindley, 10/8 spring rate is very rough. your better off keeping the 8/7 that comes on the silk roads and going towards other chassis bracing mods if your concerend about body roll.

just curious have you riden / driven any cars with a 8 /7 spring rate or anything similar? if you havent 8/7 is probly great for the time being.
Ive had silk roads for about a year now and I love them. on my S14 btw. and there is still body roll with my 8/7 but i feel like id be better off getting larger sway bars. well anything in the rear sinc ei HAVE no sway bar , damn base models

04-13-2006, 12:44 PM	#1
koukispec Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hawaii Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kei office vs. silkroad any1 got any reviews on the 2 coilover systems? also a comparison? i no silkroads r a lot cheaper than kei office, but has any1 had first hand experience of both? i am in the market for coilovers right now and im not too tight with the money thats goin to be spent, also any1 else have any opinions of any other coilovers? btw these r going on a 1997 240sx, i already did a search and couldnt find any good write ups or anything about these 2 brands, thanx for the input

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usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Kei Office coilovers aren't available anymore. What was Kei Office is now known as DG5 in Japan. __________________ -Norm!

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!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	What are you going to do when time comes for rebuild? If the coils can't be serviced, then they sound useless imo. __________________

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DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 39 Posts: 6,158 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	^even if they do its still a pita to send your shit out to japan to have it rebuilt. KTS's are great for the money. Ive driven on silkroads, and the name says it all, its like driving on silk roads. There not dampened as agressively as the KTS's. Both are compareable and very good. __________________

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*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	If I was gonna get some coilovers for daily driving, they would not be some fancy pants hard to rebuild coils for sure awe factor. If you want to be different, get like. . .a crazy paint job or something. I would get something that I can have minimal downtime on when a rebuild comes. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

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koukispec Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hawaii Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im probably gonna get the kei office used, thanks for the head up though, any other input?

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koukispec Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hawaii Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	o i forgot to mention that the car is gonna be used for a daily driver and some track use, mostly drifting, i no that tein HE's r good enough for the job, but i guess i just wanna get something different than wat most people get

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supportTHEezln Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 40 Posts: 552 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	There's a ton of places to get coilovers rebuilt locally for faster and cheaper then sending them to the manufacturer.

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koukispec Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hawaii Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	uh....so any1 got any input on the 2 brands? heh or any other brands? ^ also its not only for daily driving, track and drift use also thanks

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fatalfury64 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: california Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

04-13-2006, 03:34 PM	#16
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've ridden on Kei office XR's and I was pretty impressed. The ride was very smooth and dampening worked well. Very little body roll and smooth ride. I can't say much more because I wasn't the one driving. I know a few people on the boards have Kei Office coilovers.. maybe they can chime in.

04-13-2006, 04:11 PM	#17
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	dude, you fail. Apexi' coilover breakdown N1 Pro = the pimp shit N1 Type V = variant of the pimp shit World Sport = american market crap N1 ExV = entry level, NOT MADE BY MEGAN Search for the megan and exV threads and educate yourself

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OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	they're still around on ebay sometimes, left overstock cuz they sucked so bad i guess n1 line is revamped too now: N1 circuit, drift, and street...NONE MADE BY MEGAN, fury

04-14-2006, 08:23 PM	#20
Ricks15 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 39 Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Was the main reason why the Kei office coils are no longer made was because of the fact they would break very easily??

04-14-2006, 11:28 PM	#22
koukispec Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hawaii Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	also i kinda like something wit a high spring rate, i think silkroads r 8/7? anything above that, mayb like 10/8? i hate body roll heh

04-14-2006, 11:34 PM	#23
EBRAKEFANATIC Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here are some specs on the Silroads' 8-way adjustable Pyro-Ball upper mounts Spring rates: S14 - 8.0/7.0kg S13 - 8.0/6.0kg RS13/RPS13 - 8.0/7.0kg Adj. front Pillow Ball Rigid aluminium rear mount Inverted monotube dampers I just installed them and they are great. I had sportline springs but coilovers and deffinetely better. I have a s14 so, the 8/7 is sometimes a little harsh for daily driving but handling improvements are amazing. I sacrifice comfort for control. Very worth the $$$

04-14-2006, 10:01 PM	#26
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just got silkroads. Nicely damped, firm without being harsh. No experience with Kei Office, though. For rebuilding, I'd have to send it to japan, but from what I hear, they are pretty fast. __________________

04-15-2006, 11:04 AM	#27
DavidC Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MD Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i been running on my kei office xr for maybe 1.5 -2 years and they are great...plenty of events, daily, and canyon. __________________

04-15-2006, 03:10 PM	#28
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you really want stiffer spring rates, consider Tanabe Sevens, they're spring rate is 10/8. They probably won't be much more expensive than a set of silkroads with custom spring rates. However, for daily driving, I would think twice about that high of a spring rate. Just upgrading to coilovers will greatly reduce body roll, and if afterwards you still think there is too much roll, get larger sway bars, which will allow you to reduce roll without hurting ride comfort. As mentioned above, spring rate cannot be changed without swapping out the springs for a different set. Coilovers are damping adjustable. __________________

04-15-2006, 03:28 PM	#30
redsuns3838 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: dog town Posts: 969 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	silk road has springs available on their website and thru any dealer. while u probably cant get different springs ON the coilovers, theyre like 100 a spring i believe and even with that the price comes out to about the same as DG5s. doesnt it? well put nbrindley, 10/8 spring rate is very rough. your better off keeping the 8/7 that comes on the silk roads and going towards other chassis bracing mods if your concerend about body roll. just curious have you riden / driven any cars with a 8 /7 spring rate or anything similar? if you havent 8/7 is probly great for the time being. Ive had silk roads for about a year now and I love them. on my S14 btw. and there is still body roll with my 8/7 but i feel like id be better off getting larger sway bars. well anything in the rear sinc ei HAVE no sway bar , damn base models