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s13cruzer · 06-24-2002, 05:32 PM

ok well yesterday i foundout that i have a very leaky head gasket , oil in the anti-freeze , anti-freeze in the oil**not good** so anyway , i have no where near enough money to get the SR swap yet , so my dad said , i can front you some money , but not for the SR swap , just if i get the same engine , so now my question is , can i put a ka24de motor into my 90 240sx , do they intechange like yet? and if so i can i get it cheaper than the SR swap , , if i were to do that i would obviously turbo the KA. any answers and thoughts are welcome and i am in need of this cz my baby is dying.(rebuilding is out of question because if i'm gonna get that much work done i might as well just swap. thanks

SR20Fastback · 06-24-2002, 05:39 PM

Yes you can swap in the KA24DE, but its sorta the same as the SR swap, you will probably still need the power steering lines, although you dont have to make a bigger hole for the IC piping because its not turbocharged. If you arent doing the SR swap but you still want to turbo the KA you might want to seriously think over rebuilding the KA unless you can find one with very low miles. My advice, go invest in some crack, sell as much of it as you can, then borrow the rest of the money needed to pay for the SR swap or built KA.

nrcooled · 06-24-2002, 05:54 PM

The E to DE swap is pretty straight forward but you will need the complete harness from the DE because yours won't work unless you do some cutting and splicing and also you will need the steering pump and ac compressor because they don't transfer over to the DE from the E.  

BTW I have a '91 KA24DE for sale w/ about 110k on it for $450

240racr · 06-24-2002, 06:02 PM

Why not just change the head gasket? I did it on my s13. It's not too hard. I think it would be easier than swapping. Then you could use the money you saved to do a sr swap later.

Just my 2cents

SR20Fastback · 06-24-2002, 06:04 PM

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s13cruzer · 06-24-2002, 06:10 PM

changing the head gasket???not hard???what??? i thought you had to rip half the thing apart to do that , you show me how and by golly i will , how much do the head gaskets go for? and i will need directions and a lot of time.....thanks so far , more info appreciated too <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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o yeah , i am trying to be very frugal about this , so the DE swap is cheaper right?

silviasichigo · 06-24-2002, 06:41 PM

Ok I have a few suggestions and a few questions.

Q.1. How old are you?
S.1. If you are at least 18 let your dad take you to a bank and co-sign to borrow the money for the SR swap if you work and can pay it off. In the process you will build credit on the loan good way to start.

Q.2. How mechanically inclined are you and does your car run?
S.2. IF you are good with the tools now is the perfect time to learn your car by ripping the engine apart and seeing what you have to do for your SR swap.

Q.3. this should be 2 but Fvckit. Do you ahve a place at your house to tear the car apart? Garage coverd area? etc. if so how long can your car be down?
S.3. this is also a good time for cleaning. Rip that KA out get the simple green "the non crossive degreaser" and clean the egine bay and that KA. Fix what you can on the KA and get rid of it for a little bit of cash to go towards your SWAP.

These are just a few suggestions from someone who is going to spend $37,000 to ship two cars back to Texas.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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s13cruzer · 06-24-2002, 08:20 PM

well then dude , first i already have a loan out for buying the car in the first place and the car does run , well actually , but i dunno for how much longer , i have a garage filled with crap no room for a car , dammit(spring cleaning , maybe) , and i am very mechanically inclined but i dunno how long it would be down for , because if i'm gonna rebiuld then that will be awhile , i also don't have the equipment for that , i would need a engine jack and air compressor and what not , but if i'm gonna go through so much trouble for it i want to atleast upgrade , to the dohc or SR dad will only shell out so much , and that so much isn't enough for the SR , i have to shop around for a bit first , any one know any place i can get a ka24de cheap? with low miles

p.s. doea the ka24de work with the tranny from the ka24e model??

*transient* · 06-24-2002, 08:31 PM

uhh, how bout a CA? Cheaper than an SR, and it's the engine that came stock in your car, so no drilling for larger IC piping or anything.

s13cruzer · 06-25-2002, 04:53 PM

umm , when did the CA come stock in my car??? i thought they were only in 200sx's.

240racr · 06-25-2002, 05:14 PM

I think I got my head gasket for $30 or something. all you have to do is remove the intake manifold (you can let it hang if you want), take the valve cover off and take out the head bolts. Just don't let the timing chain fall down.

It took me about a week and that was because I was waiting on the machine shop. I had never done anything like that before, but it worked great! Started right up and ran better than ever.

You can get a photocopy of the head removel section in the service manual from the dealer.

It really is not that hard.

wherezmytofu · 06-25-2002, 09:04 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ June 23 2002,8:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nrcooled @ June 24 2002,4:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW I have a '91 KA24DE for sale w/ about 110k on it for $450</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
hahah theres always a catch to the info. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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450 for a 100K+ engine...what a rip off! i could hook it up much cheaper.....could is the key word!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

06-24-2002, 05:32 PM	#1
s13cruzer Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: lynn , massachusetts Posts: 358 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok well yesterday i foundout that i have a very leaky head gasket , oil in the anti-freeze , anti-freeze in the oilnot good so anyway , i have no where near enough money to get the SR swap yet , so my dad said , i can front you some money , but not for the SR swap , just if i get the same engine , so now my question is , can i put a ka24de motor into my 90 240sx , do they intechange like yet? and if so i can i get it cheaper than the SR swap , , if i were to do that i would obviously turbo the KA. any answers and thoughts are welcome and i am in need of this cz my baby is dying.(rebuilding is out of question because if i'm gonna get that much work done i might as well just swap. thanks __________________ 240SXONE -no more The meek shall inherit the passenger seat

06-24-2002, 05:39 PM	#2
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 40 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes you can swap in the KA24DE, but its sorta the same as the SR swap, you will probably still need the power steering lines, although you dont have to make a bigger hole for the IC piping because its not turbocharged. If you arent doing the SR swap but you still want to turbo the KA you might want to seriously think over rebuilding the KA unless you can find one with very low miles. My advice, go invest in some crack, sell as much of it as you can, then borrow the rest of the money needed to pay for the SR swap or built KA. __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

06-24-2002, 05:54 PM	#3
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The E to DE swap is pretty straight forward but you will need the complete harness from the DE because yours won't work unless you do some cutting and splicing and also you will need the steering pump and ac compressor because they don't transfer over to the DE from the E.   BTW I have a '91 KA24DE for sale w/ about 110k on it for $450 __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

06-24-2002, 06:02 PM	#4
240racr Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hillsboro, OR Age: 49 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why not just change the head gasket? I did it on my s13. It's not too hard. I think it would be easier than swapping. Then you could use the money you saved to do a sr swap later. Just my 2cents __________________ Precision T3/T4, 65lb injectors, z32 brakes, AEM EMS, 360WHP

06-24-2002, 06:04 PM	#5
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 40 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nrcooled @ June 24 2002,4:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW I have a '91 KA24DE for sale w/ about 110k on it for $450</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> hahah theres always a catch to the info. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

06-24-2002, 06:10 PM	#6
s13cruzer Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: lynn , massachusetts Posts: 358 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	changing the head gasket???not hard???what??? i thought you had to rip half the thing apart to do that , you show me how and by golly i will , how much do the head gaskets go for? and i will need directions and a lot of time.....thanks so far , more info appreciated too <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> o yeah , i am trying to be very frugal about this , so the DE swap is cheaper right? __________________ 240SXONE -no more The meek shall inherit the passenger seat

06-24-2002, 06:41 PM	#7
silviasichigo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Japan Age: 49 Posts: 782 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: silviasichigo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok I have a few suggestions and a few questions. Q.1. How old are you? S.1. If you are at least 18 let your dad take you to a bank and co-sign to borrow the money for the SR swap if you work and can pay it off. In the process you will build credit on the loan good way to start. Q.2. How mechanically inclined are you and does your car run? S.2. IF you are good with the tools now is the perfect time to learn your car by ripping the engine apart and seeing what you have to do for your SR swap. Q.3. this should be 2 but Fvckit. Do you ahve a place at your house to tear the car apart? Garage coverd area? etc. if so how long can your car be down? S.3. this is also a good time for cleaning. Rip that KA out get the simple green "the non crossive degreaser" and clean the egine bay and that KA. Fix what you can on the KA and get rid of it for a little bit of cash to go towards your SWAP. These are just a few suggestions from someone who is going to spend $37,000 to ship two cars back to Texas.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

06-24-2002, 08:20 PM	#8
s13cruzer Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: lynn , massachusetts Posts: 358 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well then dude , first i already have a loan out for buying the car in the first place and the car does run , well actually , but i dunno for how much longer , i have a garage filled with crap no room for a car , dammit(spring cleaning , maybe) , and i am very mechanically inclined but i dunno how long it would be down for , because if i'm gonna rebiuld then that will be awhile , i also don't have the equipment for that , i would need a engine jack and air compressor and what not , but if i'm gonna go through so much trouble for it i want to atleast upgrade , to the dohc or SR dad will only shell out so much , and that so much isn't enough for the SR , i have to shop around for a bit first , any one know any place i can get a ka24de cheap? with low miles p.s. doea the ka24de work with the tranny from the ka24e model?? __________________ 240SXONE -no more The meek shall inherit the passenger seat

06-24-2002, 08:31 PM	#9
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	uhh, how bout a CA? Cheaper than an SR, and it's the engine that came stock in your car, so no drilling for larger IC piping or anything. __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

06-25-2002, 04:53 PM	#10
s13cruzer Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: lynn , massachusetts Posts: 358 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	umm , when did the CA come stock in my car??? i thought they were only in 200sx's. __________________ 240SXONE -no more The meek shall inherit the passenger seat

06-25-2002, 05:14 PM	#11
240racr Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hillsboro, OR Age: 49 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think I got my head gasket for $30 or something. all you have to do is remove the intake manifold (you can let it hang if you want), take the valve cover off and take out the head bolts. Just don't let the timing chain fall down. It took me about a week and that was because I was waiting on the machine shop. I had never done anything like that before, but it worked great! Started right up and ran better than ever. You can get a photocopy of the head removel section in the service manual from the dealer. It really is not that hard. __________________ Precision T3/T4, 65lb injectors, z32 brakes, AEM EMS, 360WHP

06-25-2002, 09:04 PM	#12
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ June 23 2002,8:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nrcooled @ June 24 2002,4:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW I have a '91 KA24DE for sale w/ about 110k on it for $450</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> hahah theres always a catch to the info. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> 450 for a 100K+ engine...what a rip off! i could hook it up much cheaper.....could is the key word!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>