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BlackS14 · 10-09-2006, 12:10 PM

Actually just more of a reassurance type deal....I'm heading to Enjuku this Friday to pick up a set of CS 20mm front fenders as well as at the end of the month...going to be picking up the 50mm rears....

I was wondering from the folks that have dealt with or are running there fenders......how is the fitment? Great, good......not so great (lots of custom work?).

-Bill

*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-09-2006, 12:15 PM

Most rears arent hard to fit. It all depends on how you mount it. You can adjust rears and play with them by making them bubble in or out.

punxva · 10-09-2006, 12:23 PM

well your best bet is to rivet it

irritatedmax · 10-09-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by punxva

well your best bet is to rivet it

any rational behind your comment? if you have someone with some talent put them on it doesn't matter how you mount them. rivet them on and they could look like crap or mold them in and you still run the same risk.

punxva · 10-09-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by irritatedmax

any rational behind your comment? if you have someone with some talent put them on it doesn't matter how you mount them. rivet them on and they could look like crap or mold them in and you still run the same risk.

actually there is some rational behind riviting them on, its first of all a more stable and stronger means of attachment, its also easier than dealing with bondo, might not look as good, but if your that anal about it, then you can always fill the rivits with bondo, and mold the over fenders to the car too, then you have th best of both worlds, the clean look, plus the strength of the rivits. Think about it, do you really want some double sided tape, and bondo being the only thing holding on the rear over fenders??? Another logical reason is if some how they manage to get damaged, its alot easier to take a rivit out, and replace the piece, without doing too much body work, since if your getting replacement over fenders, then the holes are still drilled in the stock quarterpanal. Thats just my 2 cents, but im sure many will agree with my logic, sry i didnt clarify the reasons behind my comment

widegts · 10-09-2006, 12:37 PM

i have worked with every type of fiberglass / poly junk i think, and w/ the rears i have installed.. best to do

- MATCH the wheel wells.
- IF you want a slam'd look, match the wheel wells then sit lower...

and so forth.

======

YES rivets is best first, to check for fitment, rubbing, and so forth. Dont forget to cut your fender if you decide to go with extremely wide rims/tires. We got the 30mm rear fenders for a s13, and made it fit 19x11.

======

FRONT FENDERS

- Mount on to see where to drill
- ENSURE fitment before drilling. HOLD IT IN PLACE
- Get a sharpie/paint pen, and mark your holes
- Drill and mount
==========

As for fitment problems, the authentic CS should be like 240 or so, and those fit great. When you get to the ones i sell, copies, then it will fit good 90%, but you might have to get a bodyshop to refinish a little.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-09-2006, 12:58 PM

Rivets will hold it in place alot better than just bondoing it in.

Honestly tho, if your gonna run rear over fenders, you might as well do it right by cutting the stock fenders and having all the room in the world. What we did with my roomates car is this...we cut the outter panel roughly 2 inches up. Once you do that, you basically have a gap between the inner panel and the outer. Pull the inner up and weld it into the outer piece. Cut and smooth out the over lapping pieces (doesnt have to be pretty since itll be covered by the overfender). Rivet the overfenders and you can bondo it to smooth it out if you want.

Ninjabread · 10-09-2006, 01:23 PM

^^funkin nice color... is it the one off the x-terra?

*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-09-2006, 01:28 PM

Nopes...scion Xb Camouflage metallic

Ninjabread · 10-09-2006, 01:34 PM

Pimp ass color IMO.

BlackS14 · 10-09-2006, 02:27 PM

Well as far as I have seen, the fronts are a bolt on deal...no drilling involved seeing as how they are a full replacement.

That is what I had in mind with regards to the rears...is cutting out fenderwell (doing it right) and mounting with rivets then bondoing over.....

Now I just have to find the wheels that'll fill em up.....I'm thinking Volk GT-N's....18x10 up front and 18x11 out back....woot!!!!

-Bill

*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-09-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackS14

Well as far as I have seen, the fronts are a bolt on deal...no drilling involved seeing as how they are a full replacement.

That is what I had in mind with regards to the rears...is cutting out fenderwell (doing it right) and mounting with rivets then bondoing over.....

Now I just have to find the wheels that'll fill em up.....I'm thinking Volk GT-N's....18x10 up front and 18x11 out back....woot!!!!

-Bill

11s are overkill, 10s with proper offset (roughly -5 or -10) will be more than adequate. 10s upfront, i cant say nothing cuz im running 17x10s all around. Only thing with 10s up front is you will more than likely be having rubbing issues somewhere, specially at full turn...

irritatedmax · 10-09-2006, 03:03 PM

punxva, i wasn't attacking you, i just have never heard of someone straight bondoing wide fenders on, that is just gangster and asking for troubles. i didn't realize you were distinguishing between the two in your orginal post.

my brother riveted and molded his in and they look awesome. definitely start by riviting them on even if you mold them in.

punxva · 10-09-2006, 05:13 PM

yea bro its cool, i was just explaining it a little more in depth so blacks14 too, its all good man

BlackS14 · 10-09-2006, 05:42 PM

Thanks a million guys...here's my next question.....can anyone forsee problems with using the CS fenders with say like a full kit from Origin or Vertex??

-Bill

cisco240 · 10-09-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackS14

Thanks a million guys...here's my next question.....can anyone forsee problems with using the CS fenders with say like a full kit from Origin or Vertex??

-Bill

You shouldn't have any problems. I have a Version Select body kit on my car w/ Origin Lab fenders (practically same stuff as CS) & they fit great together. I have it sitting on some 9" wide wheels up front (no rubbing issues at all) & 10.5" in the rear.
Here's a pic:

BlackS14 · 10-09-2006, 07:48 PM

OMG......Cisco you're car is gorgeous.....quite a bit what I want mine to look like...only black in color....Jesus. Two questions....are you running stock rear fenders (looks like you are)? And do you have some different pics from different angles....rear, side, front...post em away...please...

EDIT...oops..three questions. What brand and offset are those wheels?

-Bill

cisco240 · 10-11-2006, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackS14

OMG......Cisco you're car is gorgeous.....quite a bit what I want mine to look like...only black in color....Jesus. Two questions....are you running stock rear fenders (looks like you are)? And do you have some different pics from different angles....rear, side, front...post em away...please...

EDIT...oops..three questions. What brand and offset are those wheels?

-Bill

Thanks, I was acutally thinking of black before I decided on the red.
1. No, I am not running stock fenders. I have 50mm overfenders molded in & had the gas cap/cover/lid made to sit flush w/ the fenders so that is looks almost stock (I didn't want it to be real obvious).
2. I do have some more pics. I can post some up later, but for now I'll just post my cardomain link: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2064334
3. The wheels are Racing Hart R5 Pro in 19X9 & 19X10.5, I can't remember the offset though.

EJ253 · 10-21-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cisco240

You shouldn't have any problems. I have a Version Select body kit on my car w/ Origin Lab fenders (practically same stuff as CS) & they fit great together. I have it sitting on some 9" wide wheels up front (no rubbing issues at all) & 10.5" in the rear.
Here's a pic:

what offset are the wheels? BTW your car is probably my favorite 240

EDIT: oopslah, you already answered that Q

sorry bout that

yokotas13 · 10-11-2006, 05:25 AM

some is a show queen

id hate to see that moulding hold up to drifting vibrations lol

*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-11-2006, 06:46 PM

To answer your other question front fender fitment wise, chargespeed front fenders are prolly one of the better fitting sets out there over origin or version select. Dont know how AIT fenders are but if imma base it on how they theyre kits are, id say origin or vers are better than AIT.

DJPimpFlex · 10-11-2006, 06:56 PM

I really learned to love the rivited look IMO. Also if you paint them they end up looking ok.

SilviaVsSupra · 10-14-2006, 02:49 PM

i got a pair of fenders from Raceonusa... and ive never seen fiberglass that poorly made. looked like it was hand made without any type of mold, they were cracked, scratched, broken, warped, you name it. needless to say i sent them back.. so far im screwed out of the money, (been 3 weeks w/o anything in return) and got OEMs.. good luck with yours!

irritatedmax · 10-14-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SilviaVsSupra

i got a pair of fenders from Raceonusa... and ive never seen fiberglass that poorly made. looked like it was hand made without any type of mold, they were cracked, scratched, broken, warped, you name it. needless to say i sent them back.. so far im screwed out of the money, (been 3 weeks w/o anything in return) and got OEMs.. good luck with yours!

raceonusa is junk, i repeat junk. my brother bought a pair of front fenders from them and after many hours of trying to line them up they were scrapped and sold. the body line was way off, the edges were really rough and the corners were cracked. if anyone thinks they will save money using their stuff think again. buy good stuff the first time.

Siizzzoooo · 10-21-2006, 10:23 PM

here's a shot of mine at the body shop

my car is slammed so i guess we cut out about 4-5 inches.... cuz u never know

BlackS14 · 10-22-2006, 10:25 AM

Do you have any more picd SLizzzooo. If ya could...even if thru PM'ing..I'd like to follow the build...and bodywork. Let me know

-Bill

Siizzzoooo · 10-22-2006, 11:58 AM

you can follow the body work here

http://240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90485

BlackS14 · 10-23-2006, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Siizzzoooo

you can follow the body work here

http://240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90485

ANyway else you can post pics....I have to register....then wait two days...and have 20 posts....Jesus!! LOL...

-Bill

silvia_s14 · 10-23-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackS14

ANyway else you can post pics....I have to register....then wait two days...and have 20 posts....Jesus!! LOL...

-Bill

there in the picture thread. go check them out. page 56 i think

twofourzerosx · 10-22-2006, 12:09 PM

offtopic but siizzzooo i notice u have ur doors off. is that the harnes clip right there in the jam???? s13s u basicaly have to take the dash out to get to it! thats awesome

10-09-2006, 12:10 PM	#1
BlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Age: 45 Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Chargespeed widebody.....couple questions? Actually just more of a reassurance type deal....I'm heading to Enjuku this Friday to pick up a set of CS 20mm front fenders as well as at the end of the month...going to be picking up the 50mm rears.... I was wondering from the folks that have dealt with or are running there fenders......how is the fitment? Great, good......not so great (lots of custom work?). -Bill __________________ Once you go black you...well...you know.....lol!!!!

10-09-2006, 12:15 PM	#2
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Most rears arent hard to fit. It all depends on how you mount it. You can adjust rears and play with them by making them bubble in or out. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

10-09-2006, 12:58 PM	#7
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Rivets will hold it in place alot better than just bondoing it in. Honestly tho, if your gonna run rear over fenders, you might as well do it right by cutting the stock fenders and having all the room in the world. What we did with my roomates car is this...we cut the outter panel roughly 2 inches up. Once you do that, you basically have a gap between the inner panel and the outer. Pull the inner up and weld it into the outer piece. Cut and smooth out the over lapping pieces (doesnt have to be pretty since itll be covered by the overfender). Rivet the overfenders and you can bondo it to smooth it out if you want. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

10-09-2006, 01:23 PM	#8
Ninjabread Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Age: 36 Posts: 3,492 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Ninjabread Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^^funkin nice color... is it the one off the x-terra? __________________ 613DriftWerks.ca

10-09-2006, 01:28 PM	#9
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Nopes...scion Xb Camouflage metallic __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

10-09-2006, 12:37 PM	#6
widegts Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Walnut/WestCovina ............................ Everything in this world is art. A simple alteration of how you see something, is art. So with that in mind, what do you see as art!!! Age: 42 Posts: 1,796 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: widegts Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i have worked with every type of fiberglass / poly junk i think, and w/ the rears i have installed.. best to do - MATCH the wheel wells. - IF you want a slam'd look, match the wheel wells then sit lower... and so forth. ====== YES rivets is best first, to check for fitment, rubbing, and so forth. Dont forget to cut your fender if you decide to go with extremely wide rims/tires. We got the 30mm rear fenders for a s13, and made it fit 19x11. ====== FRONT FENDERS - Mount on to see where to drill - ENSURE fitment before drilling. HOLD IT IN PLACE - Get a sharpie/paint pen, and mark your holes - Drill and mount ========== As for fitment problems, the authentic CS should be like 240 or so, and those fit great. When you get to the ones i sell, copies, then it will fit good 90%, but you might have to get a bodyshop to refinish a little.

10-09-2006, 01:34 PM	#10
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10-09-2006, 02:27 PM	#11
BlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Age: 45 Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well as far as I have seen, the fronts are a bolt on deal...no drilling involved seeing as how they are a full replacement. That is what I had in mind with regards to the rears...is cutting out fenderwell (doing it right) and mounting with rivets then bondoing over..... Now I just have to find the wheels that'll fill em up.....I'm thinking Volk GT-N's....18x10 up front and 18x11 out back....woot!!!! -Bill __________________ Once you go black you...well...you know.....lol!!!!

10-09-2006, 03:03 PM	#13
irritatedmax Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ashland, NE Age: 39 Posts: 1,359 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	punxva, i wasn't attacking you, i just have never heard of someone straight bondoing wide fenders on, that is just gangster and asking for troubles. i didn't realize you were distinguishing between the two in your orginal post. my brother riveted and molded his in and they look awesome. definitely start by riviting them on even if you mold them in.

10-09-2006, 05:42 PM	#15
BlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Age: 45 Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks a million guys...here's my next question.....can anyone forsee problems with using the CS fenders with say like a full kit from Origin or Vertex?? -Bill __________________ Once you go black you...well...you know.....lol!!!!

10-09-2006, 07:48 PM	#17
BlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Age: 45 Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OMG......Cisco you're car is gorgeous.....quite a bit what I want mine to look like...only black in color....Jesus. Two questions....are you running stock rear fenders (looks like you are)? And do you have some different pics from different angles....rear, side, front...post em away...please... EDIT...oops..three questions. What brand and offset are those wheels? -Bill __________________ Once you go black you...well...you know.....lol!!!!

10-11-2006, 05:25 AM	#20
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 40 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	some is a show queen id hate to see that moulding hold up to drifting vibrations lol __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

10-11-2006, 06:46 PM	#21
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	To answer your other question front fender fitment wise, chargespeed front fenders are prolly one of the better fitting sets out there over origin or version select. Dont know how AIT fenders are but if imma base it on how they theyre kits are, id say origin or vers are better than AIT. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

10-11-2006, 06:56 PM	#22
DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 39 Posts: 6,158 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	I really learned to love the rivited look IMO. Also if you paint them they end up looking ok. __________________

10-14-2006, 02:49 PM	#23
SilviaVsSupra Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fl Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got a pair of fenders from Raceonusa... and ive never seen fiberglass that poorly made. looked like it was hand made without any type of mold, they were cracked, scratched, broken, warped, you name it. needless to say i sent them back.. so far im screwed out of the money, (been 3 weeks w/o anything in return) and got OEMs.. good luck with yours!

10-21-2006, 10:23 PM	#25
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	here's a shot of mine at the body shop my car is slammed so i guess we cut out about 4-5 inches.... cuz u never know

10-22-2006, 10:25 AM	#26
BlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Age: 45 Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you have any more picd SLizzzooo. If ya could...even if thru PM'ing..I'd like to follow the build...and bodywork. Let me know -Bill __________________ Once you go black you...well...you know.....lol!!!!

10-22-2006, 11:58 AM	#27
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you can follow the body work here http://240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90485

10-22-2006, 12:09 PM	#30
twofourzerosx BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CT Posts: 96 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	offtopic but siizzzooo i notice u have ur doors off. is that the harnes clip right there in the jam???? s13s u basicaly have to take the dash out to get to it! thats awesome