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2.0-TURBOcoupe · 11-12-2006, 10:00 PM

does anyone know how to go about getting and hid kit for the s13 conversion. im not really sure as to what bulb kit to order. because the harness plug is for h4 and the bulb itself is sort of like an H3 so i dont know where to go from here. so someone help me please

s2ionline · 11-12-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2.0-TURBOcoupe

does anyone know how to go about getting and hid kit for the s13 conversion. im not really sure as to what bulb kit to order. because the harness plug is for h4 and the bulb itself is sort of like an H3 so i dont know where to go from here. so someone help me please

If you decide to go with a conversion kit. Then you should request for H4 wiring with H3 bulbs. Unless you dont mind customizing an H3 kit by basically splicing the wires and attaching blades on each end and plugging them in to the H4 socket. Im not too sure about your high beams though. Hope that helps!

Anto · 11-13-2006, 02:09 AM

Retrofit!

That aside, H3 based bulbs, you'll have to splice the wiring like s2ionline said.

[email protected] · 11-13-2006, 02:12 AM

or just get the non projector headlights. h4 bulbs

Anto · 11-13-2006, 04:28 AM

If you do go with the non projector headlight housing with a KIT, at LEAST go for the rebased D2S -> H4 bulb. The rebased version makes it so that the focal point is the same.

positron · 11-13-2006, 07:16 AM

Phase2Motorsports has a new H.I.D. kit for the conversion.

drew935 · 11-13-2006, 10:14 AM

I just did H4 housings, d2s adapters, and just wired it up. The beam is just fine with me. No problems at all. I'm using HIDs from a S2K. Philips bulbs...doing this mod is nothing new so look around before asking a simple question.

Ruby240 · 11-14-2006, 02:56 AM

This same thread is progressing on another board. I'm glad you actually came over here to search and ask around like I told you to on tnspeed.

Somebody point him to the thread about the light beam arrays, and how broken most of them are with conversions. I can't find the thread again, as I found it by accident a couple days ago while searching for fog light stuff.

NervGS · 11-14-2006, 11:21 AM

www.clearcorners.com

-glenn

11-14-2006, 06:21 PM

Dont waste money on HID conversion for RHD-optic cars, you'll be seriously disappointed and will equip your car with some shitty headlamps.

We are working on a setup using DOT compliant optics. HID low beams, halogen high output high beams. In the works at the moment.

Mike / ClearCorners.Com

drew935 · 11-15-2006, 10:40 AM

e-code housings are for lhd but are not dot. Not like it matters since they are popups...

*ManoNegra* · 11-15-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

Dont waste money on HID conversion for RHD-optic cars, you'll be seriously disappointed and will equip your car with some shitty headlamps.

We are working on a setup using DOT compliant optics. HID low beams, halogen high output high beams. In the works at the moment.

Mike / ClearCorners.Com

Will these be reasonalby priced? Or will you be accepting body organs?

Ruby240 · 12-04-2006, 02:46 AM

Prices look like a couple of fingers and toes for the LED stuff. IMO, I wouldn't use. Not because they are bad, but because personally I hate getting behind somebody that has ridicously BRIGHT tail lights, and I wouldn't do that to someone else.

positron · 12-04-2006, 07:05 AM

Agreed, they look cool unless you're being tailed by someone with them. Then comes the curse words!

12-04-2006, 10:05 AM

Prices look like a couple of fingers and toes for the LED stuff. IMO, I wouldn't use. Not because they are bad, but because personally I hate getting behind somebody that has ridicously BRIGHT tail lights, and I wouldn't do that to someone else.

Not to be a jerk, but what does the word reasonably priced mean?

For instance, if you have stock 96-98 180SX taillamps.. why do you *need* LED technology? You dont. Therefor, there is no such thing as reasonably priced. Either you can afford having such an item on your car, or you cant.

If you want LESS LEDs, taillights like that already exist in the market, and rightfully so. You pay lets say $300 dollars, you get 12 LEDs per lamp. Its the nature of the product.

As for headlamps, do you guys *need* S13 silvia front-ends? Since when. My s13 has been in my possession for over 10 years, never have I said to myself "I need to change this front end to one with RHD headlamps."

Obviously, many 240SX owners have an itch up their butt and a need to change things. So, they change their front end and use RHD headlamps. Well, thats fine.. but now you have a problem, the light emitted from RHD headlamps is designed for use overseas in Japan and UK. So, these lamps are pretty much useless here in the States.

So for those of you who have S13 front-ends, well.. you gotta pay to have someone do this type of work for you. If you cant afford that, then you take the risk of doing it yourself - nothing wrong with that. You'll have plenty of first-hand experience as to what makes this type of labor so intensive and fustrating, of course.. without the LED coolness, we're just talking about the basic work of changing your low beams out for ones that kick ass.

----

As for the rest who are talking about HID kits, this has already been discussed before time and time again.. here is a link to the thread that has been going on in "chat" for many weeks now:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=119134&page=5

HID kits DO NOT solve your problems, they only amplify them. If you couldnt see before, you wont be able to see with an HID kit.. it will only amplify the shittiness of your current lighting setup. Want better lights? Change your optics. This means full disassembly of your headlamp and upgrading the internals with better ones.

harlockssx · 12-11-2006, 11:14 PM

"Obviously, many 240SX owners have an itch up their butt and a need to change things. So, they change their front end and use RHD headlamps. Well, thats fine.. but now you have a problem, the light emitted from RHD headlamps is designed for use overseas in Japan and UK. So, these lamps are pretty much useless here in the States."

Can you please elaborate on how the light is useless here, but not in Japan & UK...I'm not following you. How does the light become "useless"? We do have the ability to aim them...Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I just don't get what you're saying here...

smelly240 · 12-11-2006, 11:28 PM

aiming doesnt change the shape of the light...

i cant believe there are this many threads at once about this.

11-12-2006, 10:00 PM	#1
2.0-TURBOcoupe Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: tennessee Age: 38 Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	S13 silvia HID question. does anyone know how to go about getting and hid kit for the s13 conversion. im not really sure as to what bulb kit to order. because the harness plug is for h4 and the bulb itself is sort of like an H3 so i dont know where to go from here. so someone help me please

11-13-2006, 07:16 AM	#6
positron Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Starkville, MS. Posts: 49 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Phase2Motorsports has a new H.I.D. kit for the conversion. __________________ "I want my name to be Spaghetti!"

11-13-2006, 10:14 AM	#7
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just did H4 housings, d2s adapters, and just wired it up. The beam is just fine with me. No problems at all. I'm using HIDs from a S2K. Philips bulbs...doing this mod is nothing new so look around before asking a simple question. __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

11-14-2006, 02:56 AM	#8
Ruby240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Surrounded by Retards Age: 47 Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	This same thread is progressing on another board. I'm glad you actually came over here to search and ask around like I told you to on tnspeed. Somebody point him to the thread about the light beam arrays, and how broken most of them are with conversions. I can't find the thread again, as I found it by accident a couple days ago while searching for fog light stuff. __________________ I like beer much the same way as I do cars and women. Light, easy to go down, and preferbly domestic, but now and again an Import is alright.

11-15-2006, 10:40 AM	#11
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	e-code housings are for lhd but are not dot. Not like it matters since they are popups... __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

11-13-2006, 02:09 AM	#3
Anto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 862 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Retrofit! That aside, H3 based bulbs, you'll have to splice the wiring like s2ionline said.

11-13-2006, 02:12 AM	#4
[email protected] Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rialto, CA Posts: 97 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	or just get the non projector headlights. h4 bulbs

11-13-2006, 04:28 AM	#5
Anto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 862 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	If you do go with the non projector headlight housing with a KIT, at LEAST go for the rebased D2S -> H4 bulb. The rebased version makes it so that the focal point is the same.

11-14-2006, 11:21 AM	#9
NervGS Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California. Age: 43 Posts: 500 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	www.clearcorners.com -glenn

11-14-2006, 06:21 PM	#10
ixfxi Guest Posts: n/a	Dont waste money on HID conversion for RHD-optic cars, you'll be seriously disappointed and will equip your car with some shitty headlamps. We are working on a setup using DOT compliant optics. HID low beams, halogen high output high beams. In the works at the moment. Mike / ClearCorners.Com

12-04-2006, 02:46 AM	#13
Ruby240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Surrounded by Retards Age: 47 Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Prices look like a couple of fingers and toes for the LED stuff. IMO, I wouldn't use. Not because they are bad, but because personally I hate getting behind somebody that has ridicously BRIGHT tail lights, and I wouldn't do that to someone else. __________________ I like beer much the same way as I do cars and women. Light, easy to go down, and preferbly domestic, but now and again an Import is alright.

12-04-2006, 07:05 AM	#14
positron Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Starkville, MS. Posts: 49 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Agreed, they look cool unless you're being tailed by someone with them. Then comes the curse words! __________________ "I want my name to be Spaghetti!"

12-04-2006, 10:05 AM	#15
ixfxi Guest Posts: n/a	Prices look like a couple of fingers and toes for the LED stuff. IMO, I wouldn't use. Not because they are bad, but because personally I hate getting behind somebody that has ridicously BRIGHT tail lights, and I wouldn't do that to someone else. Not to be a jerk, but what does the word reasonably priced mean? For instance, if you have stock 96-98 180SX taillamps.. why do you need LED technology? You dont. Therefor, there is no such thing as reasonably priced. Either you can afford having such an item on your car, or you cant. If you want LESS LEDs, taillights like that already exist in the market, and rightfully so. You pay lets say $300 dollars, you get 12 LEDs per lamp. Its the nature of the product. As for headlamps, do you guys need S13 silvia front-ends? Since when. My s13 has been in my possession for over 10 years, never have I said to myself "I need to change this front end to one with RHD headlamps." Obviously, many 240SX owners have an itch up their butt and a need to change things. So, they change their front end and use RHD headlamps. Well, thats fine.. but now you have a problem, the light emitted from RHD headlamps is designed for use overseas in Japan and UK. So, these lamps are pretty much useless here in the States. So for those of you who have S13 front-ends, well.. you gotta pay to have someone do this type of work for you. If you cant afford that, then you take the risk of doing it yourself - nothing wrong with that. You'll have plenty of first-hand experience as to what makes this type of labor so intensive and fustrating, of course.. without the LED coolness, we're just talking about the basic work of changing your low beams out for ones that kick ass. ---- As for the rest who are talking about HID kits, this has already been discussed before time and time again.. here is a link to the thread that has been going on in "chat" for many weeks now: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=119134&page=5 HID kits DO NOT solve your problems, they only amplify them. If you couldnt see before, you wont be able to see with an HID kit.. it will only amplify the shittiness of your current lighting setup. Want better lights? Change your optics. This means full disassembly of your headlamp and upgrading the internals with better ones.

12-11-2006, 11:14 PM	#16
harlockssx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: APO AP 96367 Age: 52 Posts: 463 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	"Obviously, many 240SX owners have an itch up their butt and a need to change things. So, they change their front end and use RHD headlamps. Well, thats fine.. but now you have a problem, the light emitted from RHD headlamps is designed for use overseas in Japan and UK. So, these lamps are pretty much useless here in the States." Can you please elaborate on how the light is useless here, but not in Japan & UK...I'm not following you. How does the light become "useless"? We do have the ability to aim them...Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I just don't get what you're saying here... __________________ Old School

12-11-2006, 11:28 PM	#17
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 47 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	aiming doesnt change the shape of the light... i cant believe there are this many threads at once about this.