Hawk HPS+ Pads vs. Ferodo DS2500 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Ghostdrifter · 02-24-2007, 12:24 AM

I'm about to do a 300zx brake swap on 240 hatch and I wanted to know if anyone has tried both of these pads and which set they think is better

EchoOfSilence · 02-24-2007, 01:45 AM

ferodo is some baller shit. but if you go that just for the front, your brake bias would be damn off

Kaotik25 · 02-24-2007, 03:48 AM

i haven't tried ferodo, but my HP + is the shit. i wanna know the comparison.

Ghostdrifter · 02-24-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotik25

i haven't tried ferodo, but my HP + is the shit. i wanna know the comparison.

yeah I like my HPS pads, but they fade to quickly when I start to drive fast. I heard the DS2500's offer good bite and fade resistance while still being streetable.

Echo- thanks for reminding me, i almost forgot about that

seekanddestroy · 02-25-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostdrifter

yeah I like my HPS pads, but they fade to quickly when I start to drive fast.

what brake fluid do you use?

MadScientist · 02-26-2007, 10:34 AM

The EBC pads have a HP rating...

Green Stuff for Sport & Premium Street.

Red Stuff for Highly Tuned Cars/Faster Street Driving. Nominal friction coefficient 0.5 with approx. 50% dust reduction compared to other pads.

Yellow Stuff "R" is the Ultimate Race Brake Pad for Highly Tuned Cars on both Street and Track. Nominal friction coefficient 0.6 with zero rotor damage and similar dust to original pads.

Like I said I am running the Red Suff right now but as the car builds and gets more HP I will will be looking for other pads that can handle the use. Yellow Stuff looks tempting and wasn't out when I got the Red. BTW I am running Skyline R32 GTR Calipers and Rotors (front) and full Z32 (rear).

Brake Fulid - Motul RBF 600 Dot 4

Peace
Drew

ronmcdon · 02-26-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadScientist

The EBC pads have a HP rating...

Green Stuff for Sport & Premium Street.

Red Stuff for Highly Tuned Cars/Faster Street Driving. Nominal friction coefficient 0.5 with approx. 50% dust reduction compared to other pads.

Yellow Stuff "R" is the Ultimate Race Brake Pad for Highly Tuned Cars on both Street and Track. Nominal friction coefficient 0.6 with zero rotor damage and similar dust to original pads.

Like I said I am running the Red Suff right now but as the car builds and gets more HP I will will be looking for other pads that can handle the use. Yellow Stuff looks tempting and wasn't out when I got the Red. BTW I am running Skyline R32 GTR Calipers and Rotors (front) and full Z32 (rear).

Brake Fulid - Motul RBF 600 Dot 4

Peace
Drew

slightly off topic, but how is your brake setup on the street and track? I purchased the exact same setup for my s14, but with Hawk HPS pads (may replace that with the more aggressive HP+), and the 17/16" z32 mc/prop valve. Was there anything you needed to tune the brakes? Im a bit skepticle if the z32 mc would still work well given larger front brakes are used. Any feedback would be very much appreciated, thanks!

turtl631 · 02-24-2007, 10:42 AM

Just get Axxis Ultimates if its a street car. For a track car, the HP+ are okay (there is no HPS+, just HPS and HP+). Ferodos are pretty overpriced.

seekanddestroy · 02-24-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by turtl631

For a track car, the HP+ are okay (there is no HPS+, just HPS and HP+).

HP+ are still considered street performance...

I'm going to get hawk ht10's for the track..

kandyflip445 · 02-24-2007, 10:30 PM

I like my HPS a lot. I haven't gotten them to fade and it seems like they get better as they warm up. I haven't been to a track though. Only on the street. And in a big empty parking lot. lol

Ghostdrifter · 02-25-2007, 04:46 PM

I've tested my brakes pretty extensively and they definately start to fade and lack the power to scrub off alot of speed w/o pushing the pedal down really far

MadScientist · 02-25-2007, 04:56 PM

I have heard alot of STi and Evo guys loving the EBC Brake Pads so I have a set of Red Stuff on the S14... very solid braking, lite squeek when stopping from a slow roll, other then that I love them... and they dont eat your rotors like Hawk pads.

I was running Endless Vita Novue Pads... they wear down fast and really dont increase braking as much as they claim... not worth the cost... may get M-spec after the EBC Red Stuff wears down!

Peace
Drew

staygold24 · 02-25-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MadScientist

I have heard alot of STi and Evo guys loving the EBC Brake Pads so I have a set of Red Stuff on the S14... very solid braking, lite squeek when stopping from a slow roll, other then that I love them... and they dont eat your rotors like Hawk pads.

I was running Endless Vita Novue Pads... they wear down fast and really dont increase braking as much as they claim... not worth the cost... may get M-spec after the EBC Red Stuff wears down!

Peace
Drew

Would you recommend the ebc red stuff over the hawks? Im looking to upgrade my s14 with q45 calipers drilled and slotted rotors and stainless lines. In the rear Im going with stock calipers, same rotors as already mentioned and stainless lines.

Im staying four lug otherwise Id go with z brakes. I thought the q45s would match the stock rears a little better.

EchoOfSilence · 02-25-2007, 05:31 PM

What's the difference between red and green stuff? the green has a higher nominal friction coefficient...

ripnbst · 02-25-2007, 05:55 PM

I have EBC green stuff on the front of my Jetta and they brake extremely well, I can only imagine what it would be like if I had them at all four corners. Cost 80$ for the fronts. Bought them last summer and they are still pretty meaty. They do fade but only during extremely spirited driving, car has never been tracked but there are lots of windy backroads in PA.

Dousan_PG · 02-26-2007, 11:19 AM

ive been running HPS for SO Long
ive only bought pads 1 time for my z32 brakes
used to daily it now just track (drift) and they work great. lock up fantastic. take about 3 hard stops to really get into the heat cycle but or me work great.
no complaints

hps and super blue fluid

MadScientist · 02-26-2007, 11:38 AM

ronmcdon - If you have Z32 rear and Skyline /Z32 front... I have the Nabco 17/16 MC and Z32 Booster... the booster is a bitch to install and you need to adjust the plunger to set the pedal pressure. Only thing I have noticed is under hard braking the engine gets deprived of vacuum and stumbles... not sure how to fix this yet... probably something simple... I'm not to worried about it because SR is going in soon. I have not tracked the car yet, but it feels like a Lotus braking.

Peace
Drew

ronmcdon · 02-26-2007, 04:20 PM

cool, thanks for the feedback!

02-24-2007, 12:24 AM	#1
Ghostdrifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 38 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Hawk HPS+ Pads vs. Ferodo DS2500 I'm about to do a 300zx brake swap on 240 hatch and I wanted to know if anyone has tried both of these pads and which set they think is better __________________

02-24-2007, 01:45 AM	#2
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ferodo is some baller shit. but if you go that just for the front, your brake bias would be damn off __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

02-26-2007, 10:34 AM	#6
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 48 Posts: 1,972 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The EBC pads have a HP rating... Green Stuff for Sport & Premium Street. Red Stuff for Highly Tuned Cars/Faster Street Driving. Nominal friction coefficient 0.5 with approx. 50% dust reduction compared to other pads. Yellow Stuff "R" is the Ultimate Race Brake Pad for Highly Tuned Cars on both Street and Track. Nominal friction coefficient 0.6 with zero rotor damage and similar dust to original pads. Like I said I am running the Red Suff right now but as the car builds and gets more HP I will will be looking for other pads that can handle the use. Yellow Stuff looks tempting and wasn't out when I got the Red. BTW I am running Skyline R32 GTR Calipers and Rotors (front) and full Z32 (rear). Brake Fulid - Motul RBF 600 Dot 4 Peace Drew __________________ Follow on IG - KoukiTheToolBox

02-24-2007, 10:30 PM	#10
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I like my HPS a lot. I haven't gotten them to fade and it seems like they get better as they warm up. I haven't been to a track though. Only on the street. And in a big empty parking lot. lol __________________ My 240 vBgarage

02-25-2007, 04:46 PM	#11
Ghostdrifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 38 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I've tested my brakes pretty extensively and they definately start to fade and lack the power to scrub off alot of speed w/o pushing the pedal down really far __________________

02-24-2007, 03:48 AM	#3
Kaotik25 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SoCal Age: 40 Posts: 332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i haven't tried ferodo, but my HP + is the shit. i wanna know the comparison.

02-24-2007, 10:42 AM	#8
turtl631 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 900 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Just get Axxis Ultimates if its a street car. For a track car, the HP+ are okay (there is no HPS+, just HPS and HP+). Ferodos are pretty overpriced.

02-25-2007, 04:56 PM	#12
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 48 Posts: 1,972 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I have heard alot of STi and Evo guys loving the EBC Brake Pads so I have a set of Red Stuff on the S14... very solid braking, lite squeek when stopping from a slow roll, other then that I love them... and they dont eat your rotors like Hawk pads. I was running Endless Vita Novue Pads... they wear down fast and really dont increase braking as much as they claim... not worth the cost... may get M-spec after the EBC Red Stuff wears down! Peace Drew __________________ Follow on IG - KoukiTheToolBox

02-25-2007, 05:31 PM	#14
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What's the difference between red and green stuff? the green has a higher nominal friction coefficient... __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

02-25-2007, 05:55 PM	#15
ripnbst Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Age: 38 Posts: 814 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have EBC green stuff on the front of my Jetta and they brake extremely well, I can only imagine what it would be like if I had them at all four corners. Cost 80$ for the fronts. Bought them last summer and they are still pretty meaty. They do fade but only during extremely spirited driving, car has never been tracked but there are lots of windy backroads in PA.

02-26-2007, 11:19 AM	#16
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	ive been running HPS for SO Long ive only bought pads 1 time for my z32 brakes used to daily it now just track (drift) and they work great. lock up fantastic. take about 3 hard stops to really get into the heat cycle but or me work great. no complaints hps and super blue fluid __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

02-26-2007, 11:38 AM	#17
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 48 Posts: 1,972 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	ronmcdon - If you have Z32 rear and Skyline /Z32 front... I have the Nabco 17/16 MC and Z32 Booster... the booster is a bitch to install and you need to adjust the plunger to set the pedal pressure. Only thing I have noticed is under hard braking the engine gets deprived of vacuum and stumbles... not sure how to fix this yet... probably something simple... I'm not to worried about it because SR is going in soon. I have not tracked the car yet, but it feels like a Lotus braking. Peace Drew __________________ Follow on IG - KoukiTheToolBox

02-26-2007, 04:20 PM	#18
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 90 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	cool, thanks for the feedback!