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Nskylinerb-25 · 03-04-2007, 08:27 AM

Well like the title says can you put ABS rotors on an ABS 240sx this is a 89' 240sx will they fit and will they work the same way as the non ABS rotors............ HELP!!

koukimonster139 · 03-04-2007, 08:35 AM

Let me help you please. I prefer english

"As the title states, I am trying to figure out if it is possible to put ABS brake rotors onto a non ABS 240sx. This is a 1989 240sx. Also, will the fitment and performance be equal to that of the non ABS rotors?"

Nskylinerb-25 · 03-04-2007, 08:43 AM

LOL Thanx for the help Im kind of in a rush here

projectRDM · 03-04-2007, 10:12 AM

89-94 uses the same size rotor for both ABS and non ABS.

mRclARK1 · 03-04-2007, 11:17 AM

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89-94 uses the same size rotor for both ABS and non ABS.

Sorry for my little bit of a thread jack here.....

But I'm just wondering cause I actually just called about getting new rotors (for an ABS 240)... and was quoted two different prices. One, higher price, for ABS, and another (lower) for non-ABS. Are you saying I could just buy the cheaper, non-ABS rotors, and they will still work?

O3DigitalBath · 03-04-2007, 11:18 AM

^now i know from all my days lurking around here that you know your shit, but from the days work back at the parts store I know they are not the same and autozone, advanced both show different part numbers for ABS and nonABS cars as well as brembo.

If I remember right the non ABS were like .8 inch larger in size. maybe it was just a half inch...either way the ABS model used the same stuff as the altima which had the slightly larger rotor to go along with the larger single piston caliper.

i'm actually on my way out to the store now, i'll check the bremo catalog to see the actual difference is sizes.

MaRshMaLLow · 03-04-2007, 11:25 AM

yes the ABS rotors will work on a Non ABS car .. but their more expencive in most cases

Sanjuro · 03-04-2007, 11:30 AM

no, 89-94 ABS / non-ABS rotors are not the same. The parts store gave me the ABS rotors once and I had non-ABS, and the rotors rubbed the calipers like crazy. You have to cut away a bit of the clip in order for the rotor to fit, but its a pain. Get the right rotors and save yourself the hassle.

sblack13 · 03-04-2007, 12:18 PM

i'm was running 96 S14 SE ABS rotors on my non-abs s13 w/ no problems, until I did the z32 upgrade.

cdlong · 03-04-2007, 01:52 PM

s13 Chuki ABS rotors are 257x22
s13 chuki NON-ABS rotors are 252x20

the front pads and calipers are also different. rears are the same across the board.

i don't know if this applies to the zenki s13 also but i would assume so.

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Originally Posted by sblack13

i'm was running 96 S14 SE ABS rotors on my non-abs s13 w/ no problems, until I did the z32 upgrade.

the reason your s14 rotors worked is because all s14 rotors are the same as the s13 non abs equipment, 252x20.

**ThatGuy** · 03-04-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cdlong

the reason your s14 rotors worked is because all s14 rotors are the same as the s13 non abs equipment, 252x20.

Kouki S14 rotors are larger. I know because I just had a set machined to fit inside my non-ABS S13 calipers.

projectRDM · 03-04-2007, 05:48 PM

I'll be damned. I knew the 97-98s were larger, figured it was just a changeover for the late S14s, so my deduction was the S13s should all be the same. I stand corrected.

cdlong · 03-05-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Kouki S14 rotors are larger. I know because I just had a set machined to fit inside my non-ABS S13 calipers.

sorry, i should have said '95 instead of s14 since i got all the info from the '95 and '91-94 FSMs.

Nskylinerb-25 · 03-05-2007, 07:59 AM

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't know I guess I'll get the right rotors the thing is that I can get some Drilled and slotted rotors for $20.00 brand new mmmmmmmm. I'll what happens

sblack13 · 03-05-2007, 09:20 AM

hmm so just the 97-98 are different? Like I said earlier, I know the 96 I had working without hassle. But thats pretty interesting.

O3DigitalBath · 03-05-2007, 10:06 AM

yea sorry never got back home last night to post up specs from the brembo catalog but the difference is:

9.92 (252mm) without ABS
10.1 (257mm) with ABS

the min thicknesses are also different at

18mm for non ABS
20 with ABS

overall height which is bascially mesasuring the offset or full rotor and tophat hight is the same on both.

non ABS rotors are only used on the 240sx while the ABS ones are used on G20s, ABS 240sx's, Sentra's, and Stanza's.

O3DigitalBath · 03-05-2007, 10:13 AM

oh yea, and the difference in price was 3 bucks per rotor so thats worth the extra 5mm then go ahead and get them.

jrocslider · 03-05-2007, 10:26 AM

no, they are not the same... idk bout those dudes up top giving you wrong info... probably cuase they havent tried puttin ABS rotors on a non ABS 240. i had extra ABS rotors layin around one time and thought the same thing... they sould fit... nope

O3DigitalBath · 03-05-2007, 12:31 PM

we have already established they are not the same...but is the 5mm difference in diameter too much of a difference so that they rub the caliper?

Nskylinerb-25 · 03-05-2007, 12:48 PM

Well Im going to buy them it's only $20.00 it's a hell of a deal and I'll let you guys know what happens and if I can make them fit I also forgot I don't have stock 240 rotors I have the Infinity M30 front rotors wich are alittle bigger so I'll see what happens.........

03-04-2007, 08:27 AM	#1
Nskylinerb-25 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 139 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Can you Put ABS Rotors in a non ABS 240 Well like the title says can you put ABS rotors on an ABS 240sx this is a 89' 240sx will they fit and will they work the same way as the non ABS rotors............ HELP!!

03-04-2007, 08:35 AM	#2
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 38 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Let me help you please. I prefer english "As the title states, I am trying to figure out if it is possible to put ABS brake rotors onto a non ABS 240sx. This is a 1989 240sx. Also, will the fitment and performance be equal to that of the non ABS rotors?" __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

03-04-2007, 11:25 AM	#7
MaRshMaLLow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CaLifoRniA Age: 39 Posts: 1,397 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	yes the ABS rotors will work on a Non ABS car .. but their more expencive in most cases __________________ Keeping It Real Since 1985

03-04-2007, 08:43 AM	#3
Nskylinerb-25 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 139 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	LOL Thanx for the help Im kind of in a rush here

03-04-2007, 10:12 AM	#4
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	89-94 uses the same size rotor for both ABS and non ABS.

03-04-2007, 11:18 AM	#6
O3DigitalBath Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^now i know from all my days lurking around here that you know your shit, but from the days work back at the parts store I know they are not the same and autozone, advanced both show different part numbers for ABS and nonABS cars as well as brembo. If I remember right the non ABS were like .8 inch larger in size. maybe it was just a half inch...either way the ABS model used the same stuff as the altima which had the slightly larger rotor to go along with the larger single piston caliper. i'm actually on my way out to the store now, i'll check the bremo catalog to see the actual difference is sizes.

03-04-2007, 11:30 AM	#8
Sanjuro Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no, 89-94 ABS / non-ABS rotors are not the same. The parts store gave me the ABS rotors once and I had non-ABS, and the rotors rubbed the calipers like crazy. You have to cut away a bit of the clip in order for the rotor to fit, but its a pain. Get the right rotors and save yourself the hassle.

03-04-2007, 12:18 PM	#9
sblack13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 38 Posts: 1,016 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i'm was running 96 S14 SE ABS rotors on my non-abs s13 w/ no problems, until I did the z32 upgrade.

03-04-2007, 05:48 PM	#12
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I'll be damned. I knew the 97-98s were larger, figured it was just a changeover for the late S14s, so my deduction was the S13s should all be the same. I stand corrected.

03-05-2007, 07:59 AM	#14
Nskylinerb-25 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 139 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't know I guess I'll get the right rotors the thing is that I can get some Drilled and slotted rotors for $20.00 brand new mmmmmmmm. I'll what happens

03-05-2007, 09:20 AM	#15
sblack13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 38 Posts: 1,016 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	hmm so just the 97-98 are different? Like I said earlier, I know the 96 I had working without hassle. But thats pretty interesting.

03-05-2007, 10:06 AM	#16
O3DigitalBath Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yea sorry never got back home last night to post up specs from the brembo catalog but the difference is: 9.92 (252mm) without ABS 10.1 (257mm) with ABS the min thicknesses are also different at 18mm for non ABS 20 with ABS overall height which is bascially mesasuring the offset or full rotor and tophat hight is the same on both. non ABS rotors are only used on the 240sx while the ABS ones are used on G20s, ABS 240sx's, Sentra's, and Stanza's.

03-05-2007, 10:13 AM	#17
O3DigitalBath Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	oh yea, and the difference in price was 3 bucks per rotor so thats worth the extra 5mm then go ahead and get them.

03-05-2007, 10:26 AM	#18
jrocslider Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: DownSouth Age: 38 Posts: 1,344 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: jrocslider Feedback Score: 4 reviews	no, they are not the same... idk bout those dudes up top giving you wrong info... probably cuase they havent tried puttin ABS rotors on a non ABS 240. i had extra ABS rotors layin around one time and thought the same thing... they sould fit... nope

03-05-2007, 12:31 PM	#19
O3DigitalBath Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	we have already established they are not the same...but is the 5mm difference in diameter too much of a difference so that they rub the caliper?

03-05-2007, 12:48 PM	#20
Nskylinerb-25 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 139 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Well Im going to buy them it's only $20.00 it's a hell of a deal and I'll let you guys know what happens and if I can make them fit I also forgot I don't have stock 240 rotors I have the Infinity M30 front rotors wich are alittle bigger so I'll see what happens.........