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tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 07-16-2007, 02:09 PM

So if the year we are in is based some how on Jesus' life or death. do Atheists believe we are not in 2007?

*MELLO*SOS* · 07-16-2007, 02:19 PM

We are in year ~4,550,002,007

Age of the universe

What a strange thread hope you find your answer.

SimpleSexy180 · 07-16-2007, 02:27 PM

jesus died? i went to highschool with that dude.

HAY-SOOSE

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 07-16-2007, 02:31 PM

Yea, I guess it could have gone somewhere else.. but I wanted to knowz!
lol

txrxs · 07-16-2007, 02:32 PM

SimpleSexy180 · 07-16-2007, 02:41 PM

haha yeah, but really though..i doubt they even care?

txrxs,
"i pointed at the donk, and said that suppose tah be yo's"

DUFFM4N · 07-16-2007, 02:44 PM

careful there....religious topics can get outta hand sometimes....but im catholic so i cant answer ur atheist question

**Phlip** · 07-16-2007, 02:51 PM

I am asking nicely that people please be mindful of others' beliefs (or lack thereof, given the topic as presented)
I don't mind pinking people if it gets out of hand as religious topics often do.

slothonaleash · 07-16-2007, 02:51 PM

meh... it's just used for referance, because if we (i'm agnostic) were all stuck up, we would have to go into a 10 minute long schpiel about how we don't believe in the christian beliefs before saying that in year 4,550,002,004 (have no idea what numerical value you would use) we had a drink with christina and that we think that you should try out a relationship with her

makes the world turn a bit faster

Taniguchi_Is_#1 · 07-16-2007, 02:52 PM

AD isn't based on Jesus' death. AD means anno domani = in the year of our Lord in latin.

BustedS13 · 07-16-2007, 07:56 PM

this thread is silly. you might as well wonder why christians don't measure in cubits. we use what is accepted as the standard.

eh? · 07-16-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknbkthrsdy4anfg

So if the year we are in is based some how on Jesus' life or death. do Atheists believe we are not in 2007?

Does it really matter? It's just a reference point. You do know other religions/cultures/whatever are on different years right

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 07-16-2007, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eh?

Does it really matter? It's just a reference point. You do know other religions/cultures/whatever are on different years right

I have never studied any other religions.
I just find it interesting that it seems like all "western cultures" are in 2007. And it seems to me that this number was based on christianity.
I am christian, have faith in god but not in church.
I just thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss.
sorry phlip.

steve shadows · 07-16-2007, 03:23 PM

Christian culture and Roman calendar synergy has very little to currently manifesting judeo Christian anything.

Roman Catholic and Eastern orthodox might be closest simply because of the Council of Nicceas lineage and the later schism in the church that split east and west.

All this born again Christian prophecy based hype has the least to do historically with who has rights to the western roman/Constantine refined portions of culture which give us this AD starting point.

"In the year of the lord" does refer to Christ.

I would say it’s a cultural thing.

Just like Greek and Roman art is inseparable from out day to day life, common conversation and nightlife and styles in 'western' societies.

I mean atheists still eat Greek food and imp sure wouldn’t mind cultural festival including religious re-enactments, if they do then they are sorely mistaken where a lot of common symbology and basic human ethics is derived from.

johngriff · 07-16-2007, 03:29 PM

You can be JDM and just call 2007 H19.

But the way we format dates today is actually an ISO standard, being ISO 8601 yyyy-mm-dd.

So, that is your final answer.

Matej · 07-16-2007, 04:01 PM

It's 2007, I'm not religious, though I don't really like being classified as atheist or agnostic or whatever, because I'd rather just not be classified at all since that just leads to religious debates which I like to avoid. I respect everyone's beliefs as long as they don't try to force them upon me. Even though I'm not religious, I still celebrate Christmas and such holidays and customs, it's more about tradition than religion.

steve shadows · 07-16-2007, 04:06 PM

every new citezen should be forced to take psychadellics and ride on the "small world" ride 3 times before granting citezen ship.

"you live diversity?"

"yes i like diversity"

"you like the small world"

"yes i like the small world"

"you will accept others religions and not try to kill them"

"yes i will accept"

hahaha.

yeah...im a facist

mRclARK1 · 07-16-2007, 04:23 PM

2007 has nothing whatsoever to do with anything relating to Christianity or Jesus' life, death and resurrection. It's just a superstitious silly thing people try and link to the use of the number 7 in the Bible, which some people believe symbolizes perfection, God or one of Gods names etc... I don't really have any idea what exactly I think it means, I have never given it much thought.

People went crazy expecting the Apocalypse in the year 666 AD, because of it's use in the book of Revelation. Similar rumblings I'm sure probably happend in the year 777 AD. It also happend in the year 1000 AD, and we all remember the year 2000, and how some people were convinced the end was coming then too (Stupid millenium bug that turned out to be nothing notwithstanding. lol)

The year 2007 is not significant in any way.

*MELLO*SOS* · 07-16-2007, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mRclARK1

People went crazy expecting the Apocalypse in the year 666 AD, because of it's use in the book of Revelation. Similar rumblings I'm sure probably happend in the year 777 AD. It also happend in the year 1000 AD, and we all remember the year 2000, and how some people were convinced the end was coming then too (Stupid millenium bug that turned out to be nothing notwithstanding. lol)

The year 2007 is not significant in any way.

BTW lotsa dudes think the world is going to end in 2012.

mRclARK1 · 07-16-2007, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello88

BTW lotsa dudes think the world is going to end in 2012.

Forgot about that one...

I remember once in school, I took only significantly used numbers from the Bible, and showed that the world would "end" in 1998.

I think I made some of my classmates hop into bed with mommy and daddy that night. haha

ZOMG_S14 · 07-19-2007, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello88

BTW lotsa dudes think the world is going to end in 2012.

wow, i clicked on this link and started reading about sunspots, and the earths magnetism reversing and a whole bunch of stuff i couldnt understand. i hate reading things like that it makes me feel stupid.

but thanks for posting that, of what i could understand it was good reading. i learned a lot from this thread.

*ManoNegra* · 07-16-2007, 04:28 PM

Who cares, as long as I get Christmas presents; Atheists love presents.

SimpleSexy180 · 07-16-2007, 04:45 PM

^i hope something happens. this country needs a change big time.

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 07-16-2007, 05:33 PM

Lawlz. I didnt mean 2007 specifically.
I just ment like our calender year.

Farzam · 07-16-2007, 05:54 PM

"GOD, he is ze biggest bitch of them all."

In all honestly I believe in perhaps there being some sort of superior being making our lives confusing, but I REALLY DON'T FUCKING ABOUT WHETHER THE YEAR IS BASED ON JESUS CHRIST.

IT'S A YEAR IT SERVES IT'S PURPOSE. It's like bitching about veggie burgers cause the origin came from killing cows and using their tasty goodness to fill up 2 pieces of bread.

**Phlip** · 07-16-2007, 06:00 PM

Hey Farz; shut the hell up
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php...13&postcount=8
I mean that

C. Senor · 07-16-2007, 07:56 PM

to answer atheist still use 2007, my brother is atheist and he uses the year 2007. doesnt really care. i think its just more of a custom that they made for us, because they believe jesus wasn't even born on christmas, so who is to say that he was born at 0 year a.d. i believe the romans just implemented something to show the power that they had over everyone...saying looky here biznitches, we made this calendar and you will use it. so they did and we still use it today. but that's just what i think.

mRclARK1 · 07-16-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13coupeluv

to answer atheist still use 2007, my brother is atheist and he uses the year 2007. doesnt really care. i think its just more of a custom that they made for us, because they believe jesus wasn't even born on christmas, so who is to say that he was born at 0 year a.d. i believe the romans just implemented something to show the power that they had over everyone...saying looky here biznitches, we made this calendar and you will use it. so they did and we still use it today. but that's just what i think.

We use what is called the Julian Calendar. It was implemented by Julius Caesar in 45 BC. The calendar was played with a bit after it's creation (As PHLIP said). After the time of Christ, when the Roman empire followed Christianity, the "AD" was adopted on the dates and was intended to number the years since the birth of Christ. A man named Dionysius was responsible for calulating this. He was off, and it's believed Christ was likely born sometime in 4-6 BC IIRC. It was intended that the birth of Christ be the year 0, so being it was off by 4-6 years, we're actually probably in the year 2011-2013 AD, by the intended dates of the Julian Calendar.

If you just google "Julian Calendar" or "Date of birth of Christ" you'll find a lot of info on it.

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 07-16-2007, 08:43 PM

Thats an interesting view. I could totally see the romans doing that.

**Phlip** · 07-16-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknbkthrsdy4anfg

Thats an interesting view. I could totally see the romans doing that.

Actually, Joe, the Romans basically DID that, also adding couple months to the calendar for nothing more than Narcissism...
July - Julius Caesar
August - Augustus Caesar.

Don't believe me? Compare the romance languages and those derivative, like Latin, Spanish, Italian
September - sept, septo = SEVEN... so why the fuck is it the 9th month?
October - octo, very similar to Octo = 8... 10th month? I didn't get the papers on that.
November - nove, nueve = nine, how did it slip to 11?
December - diece, diez = 10... but it is the 12th month?

The Romans took liberties with the calendar that have gone unchecked and likely will remain as such in this lifetime.

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steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Christian culture and Roman calendar synergy has very little to currently manifesting judeo Christian anything. Roman Catholic and Eastern orthodox might be closest simply because of the Council of Nicceas lineage and the later schism in the church that split east and west. All this born again Christian prophecy based hype has the least to do historically with who has rights to the western roman/Constantine refined portions of culture which give us this AD starting point. "In the year of the lord" does refer to Christ. I would say it’s a cultural thing. Just like Greek and Roman art is inseparable from out day to day life, common conversation and nightlife and styles in 'western' societies. I mean atheists still eat Greek food and imp sure wouldn’t mind cultural festival including religious re-enactments, if they do then they are sorely mistaken where a lot of common symbology and basic human ethics is derived from. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

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SimpleSexy180 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cal Posts: 4,750 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: SimpleSexy180 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	haha yeah, but really though..i doubt they even care? txrxs, "i pointed at the donk, and said that suppose tah be yo's"

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slothonaleash Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 33 Posts: 745 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	meh... it's just used for referance, because if we (i'm agnostic) were all stuck up, we would have to go into a 10 minute long schpiel about how we don't believe in the christian beliefs before saying that in year 4,550,002,004 (have no idea what numerical value you would use) we had a drink with christina and that we think that you should try out a relationship with her makes the world turn a bit faster

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Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	It's 2007, I'm not religious, though I don't really like being classified as atheist or agnostic or whatever, because I'd rather just not be classified at all since that just leads to religious debates which I like to avoid. I respect everyone's beliefs as long as they don't try to force them upon me. Even though I'm not religious, I still celebrate Christmas and such holidays and customs, it's more about tradition than religion.

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mRclARK1 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Location? Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2007 has nothing whatsoever to do with anything relating to Christianity or Jesus' life, death and resurrection. It's just a superstitious silly thing people try and link to the use of the number 7 in the Bible, which some people believe symbolizes perfection, God or one of Gods names etc... I don't really have any idea what exactly I think it means, I have never given it much thought. People went crazy expecting the Apocalypse in the year 666 AD, because of it's use in the book of Revelation. Similar rumblings I'm sure probably happend in the year 777 AD. It also happend in the year 1000 AD, and we all remember the year 2000, and how some people were convinced the end was coming then too (Stupid millenium bug that turned out to be nothing notwithstanding. lol) The year 2007 is not significant in any way. __________________

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C. Senor Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: cali Posts: 3,488 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	to answer atheist still use 2007, my brother is atheist and he uses the year 2007. doesnt really care. i think its just more of a custom that they made for us, because they believe jesus wasn't even born on christmas, so who is to say that he was born at 0 year a.d. i believe the romans just implemented something to show the power that they had over everyone...saying looky here biznitches, we made this calendar and you will use it. so they did and we still use it today. but that's just what i think. __________________ Don't forget to tell your mom, she ran out of eggs this morning!