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ESmorz · 12-25-2007, 10:20 PM

Now before you all say SEARCH!!!

I did, I went through about 20 threads pertaining to pop-up headlights and either was a different problem or gave no answer what so ever.

Anywho, the lights (bulbs) work fine. However, when I turn the headlights on the driver side will pop up and the passenger side will pop up halfway, then down, then halfway up again. Then, I will turn the lights off and the passenger side will go down, but the drivers side stays up.

Any suggestions?

posmotors · 12-25-2007, 11:03 PM

Headlight motor maybe?

ESmorz · 12-25-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by posmotors

Headlight motor maybe?

That was my first guess, but going through all the other threads it's usually a fuse, since the motors work just not how they should.

Vernal · 12-25-2007, 11:33 PM

yea maybe a fuse or relay or something. Mine went halfway up cuz the owner before me tried to make wide fenders by pulling them and it bucked the cross bracket and didnt allow it to go up all the way. I am sure thats not in your case though, but checking to see if it hits anything would be a good idea just in case.

hijack3d · 12-25-2007, 11:37 PM

What have you done to try to fix this yourself before you put a thread up about it? Writing a thread about a problem I have is usually one of my my last resorts.

I'm not being a dick, I just don't want to be redundant.

ESmorz · 12-26-2007, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hijack3d

What have you done to try to fix this yourself before you put a thread up about it? Writing a thread about a problem I have is usually one of my my last resorts.

I'm not being a dick, I just don't want to be redundant.

I understand where you're coming from, I fiddled with them for awhile and had them move while I was watching them, and the motors seem to work fine.

There is nothing in the way.

I don't know much about wiring so I figured on that front I could use some help.

Mister.E · 12-26-2007, 12:02 AM

you are lucky yours move, mine are stuck in the up position and wont even go down. im hoping its just the damn relay but i cant find anyone around these parts that actually has a working relay. i hate popups.

NorCalEvo · 12-26-2007, 06:08 AM

got a question for ya. do you have a sleepy eye mod? or are you still just factory set? there are some things that could be going on if you have a sleepy eye mod. Either way pm me and i will see if i can help you out.

Matej · 12-26-2007, 06:41 AM

Does your wheel rub on the fender harness?

yokotavia · 12-26-2007, 06:56 AM

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=140879

check that thread out.

and also, not quite sure if the s chassis have them but, on my old supra, there was a little black box called the "retractor control" that was bad and caused the same problem with the lights.

but just read that thread if your confused about relays.

ESmorz · 12-26-2007, 02:18 PM

Thanks yoko, I'll read through that although the pictures don't really work.

ALSO... the guy I bought it from, when he was in high school, put one strip of under body lighting on it, it doesn't work anymore...thank god...

Anyway that could be affecting the headlights?

fueled by hate · 12-27-2007, 02:16 AM

take off your front bumper and make sure nothing is in the way. If all is good then go to the junkyard and try getting a new headlight motor.

Nachtmensch · 12-27-2007, 02:33 AM

check relays. ive seen them go bad and do something similar.

Mister.E · 12-27-2007, 02:36 AM

is there a way to test the relays without swapping relays with someone that has working pop-ups?

bo2o · 12-27-2007, 03:50 AM

how hard is it to find new motors for your headlights?
theres tons of them in the junkyard.

if ne thing juss swap for a silvia front. haha

ESmorz · 12-27-2007, 02:54 PM

Yeah I plan on going silvia front end sometime in the near future however until then... I have to figure this out.

I would assume it's the relays since I doubt both motors would hit the fritz at the exact same time... I also know jack diddily about electronics though so I don't know the first thing about fixing them.

Bobafreak · 12-27-2007, 05:20 PM

i still have my motors and headlights!

ESmorz · 12-27-2007, 05:29 PM

Well I want to check the relays and wiring first.

Don't want to jump to conclusions, because it could be either one.

ESmorz · 12-28-2007, 01:50 PM

Should I go to a junk yard and get some fuses, and start swapping them to see if that's the problem?

Rayne · 01-03-2008, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESmorz

Well I want to check the relays and wiring first.

Don't want to jump to conclusions, because it could be either one.

Check your relay, if your fuses are fine. If the relay is fine your wiring may be the culprit. My guess, is your relay may be on its way out. If I recall correctly the headlight relay is in the engine compartment fusebox on the passenger side of the vehicle near the battery.

ESmorz · 01-08-2008, 06:39 PM

Well today I just unplugged the motors.

However, for about a week now (before I unplugged them) the car has been having issues starting.

It feels like it has a loose ignition, however I try to start it and everything electrical works just the car wont even start to turn over, but sometimes it does start... odd.

Any ideas?

roboticnissan · 12-28-2007, 02:05 PM

there is a wire its usually brown that ppl cut to make "sleepy Eyes" check your broken headlight wires and see if any were cut or pinched

ESmorz · 01-03-2008, 06:59 PM

Bump...

because not being able to drive at night blows.

usdm180sx · 01-08-2008, 06:42 PM

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=170679

waynehead05 · 01-09-2008, 09:29 PM

i've had the worst luck with the pop ups in the past and it was always the relays. i'd swap them all out for know good ones. i bet you it's not the motors. it almost never is.

KA-T_240 · 01-09-2008, 09:44 PM

sounds like your car has some wiring problems. Is your car lowered, swapped, or been wrecked? Can you see someone hacked wiring in the engine bay or under the dash?

A fuse really shouldn't cause that problem. They either work or they don't.

ESmorz · 01-09-2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA-T_240

sounds like your car has some wiring problems. Is your car lowered, swapped, or been wrecked? Can you see someone hacked wiring in the engine bay or under the dash?

A fuse really shouldn't cause that problem. They either work or they don't.

It's lowered, but I checked to see if it was rubbing any wires. As for hacked wiring there was under-body lighting that looked like it was wired by a blind 4 year old but I took all of that out.

As for the lights... I don't really care anymore, I just unplugged the motors and am leaving them up till I get a Silvia front end in about a month or two.

Now I'm more concerned about the starting issue.

KA-T_240 · 01-09-2008, 10:03 PM

Stary by checking out the basic maintance stuff on our cars. What motor, how many miles...... What are the symptoms and all that.

ESmorz · 01-09-2008, 10:30 PM

sorry for the double post

ESmorz · 01-09-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA-T_240

Stary by checking out the basic maintance stuff on our cars. What motor, how many miles...... What are the symptoms and all that.

Just replaced Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter, and Cat Converter (smog reasons).

It's a KA24DE with 130,000 miles (original motor).

The ignition feels a little loose, and when I try to start the car.

All of the electronics light up and everything is jim dandy however the car makes no attempt to turn over just a faint click.

Then, after awhile it will usually start up.

blaaaaah

12-25-2007, 10:20 PM	#1
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Pop-Up Headlights Now before you all say SEARCH!!! I did, I went through about 20 threads pertaining to pop-up headlights and either was a different problem or gave no answer what so ever. Anywho, the lights (bulbs) work fine. However, when I turn the headlights on the driver side will pop up and the passenger side will pop up halfway, then down, then halfway up again. Then, I will turn the lights off and the passenger side will go down, but the drivers side stays up. Any suggestions?

12-25-2007, 11:37 PM	#5
hijack3d Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Olympia, WA Age: 39 Posts: 351 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What have you done to try to fix this yourself before you put a thread up about it? Writing a thread about a problem I have is usually one of my my last resorts. I'm not being a dick, I just don't want to be redundant. __________________ Don't worry, it's legit: Review (Thanks Mike)

12-26-2007, 06:08 AM	#8
NorCalEvo Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sacramento CA Age: 44 Posts: 264 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: NorCalEvo Feedback Score: 1 reviews	got a question for ya. do you have a sleepy eye mod? or are you still just factory set? there are some things that could be going on if you have a sleepy eye mod. Either way pm me and i will see if i can help you out. __________________ Drifting it one corner at a time.

12-26-2007, 02:18 PM	#11
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Thanks yoko, I'll read through that although the pictures don't really work. ALSO... the guy I bought it from, when he was in high school, put one strip of under body lighting on it, it doesn't work anymore...thank god... Anyway that could be affecting the headlights? Last edited by ESmorz; 12-26-2007 at 03:01 PM..

12-27-2007, 03:50 AM	#15
bo2o Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: 626 socal! Posts: 1,315 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	how hard is it to find new motors for your headlights? theres tons of them in the junkyard. if ne thing juss swap for a silvia front. haha __________________ fS! *vlsd ! slim fans ! hid kits ! lug nuts !* http://www.zilvia.net/f/search.php?d...earchuser=bo2o ^^^click^^^

12-25-2007, 11:03 PM	#2
posmotors Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oceanside Age: 44 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Headlight motor maybe?

12-25-2007, 11:33 PM	#4
Vernal Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea maybe a fuse or relay or something. Mine went halfway up cuz the owner before me tried to make wide fenders by pulling them and it bucked the cross bracket and didnt allow it to go up all the way. I am sure thats not in your case though, but checking to see if it hits anything would be a good idea just in case.

12-26-2007, 12:02 AM	#7
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 40 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	you are lucky yours move, mine are stuck in the up position and wont even go down. im hoping its just the damn relay but i cant find anyone around these parts that actually has a working relay. i hate popups.

12-26-2007, 06:41 AM	#9
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Does your wheel rub on the fender harness?

12-26-2007, 06:56 AM	#10
yokotavia Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land of bosos and schoolgirls Posts: 679 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=140879 check that thread out. and also, not quite sure if the s chassis have them but, on my old supra, there was a little black box called the "retractor control" that was bad and caused the same problem with the lights. but just read that thread if your confused about relays.

12-27-2007, 02:16 AM	#12
fueled by hate Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: norcal Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	take off your front bumper and make sure nothing is in the way. If all is good then go to the junkyard and try getting a new headlight motor.

12-27-2007, 02:33 AM	#13
Nachtmensch Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dekalb, IL Age: 37 Posts: 698 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	check relays. ive seen them go bad and do something similar.

12-27-2007, 02:36 AM	#14
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 40 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	is there a way to test the relays without swapping relays with someone that has working pop-ups?

12-27-2007, 02:54 PM	#16
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yeah I plan on going silvia front end sometime in the near future however until then... I have to figure this out. I would assume it's the relays since I doubt both motors would hit the fritz at the exact same time... I also know jack diddily about electronics though so I don't know the first thing about fixing them.

12-27-2007, 05:20 PM	#17
Bobafreak Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 909 Posts: 2,207 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	i still have my motors and headlights! __________________ *VIOLENT RUNNING TRIBE* "Love is god, hatin is satin!"

12-27-2007, 05:29 PM	#18
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Well I want to check the relays and wiring first. Don't want to jump to conclusions, because it could be either one.

12-28-2007, 01:50 PM	#19
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Should I go to a junk yard and get some fuses, and start swapping them to see if that's the problem?

01-08-2008, 06:39 PM	#21
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Well today I just unplugged the motors. However, for about a week now (before I unplugged them) the car has been having issues starting. It feels like it has a loose ignition, however I try to start it and everything electrical works just the car wont even start to turn over, but sometimes it does start... odd. Any ideas?

12-28-2007, 02:05 PM	#22
roboticnissan Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL/NORCAL Age: 36 Posts: 1,868 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	there is a wire its usually brown that ppl cut to make "sleepy Eyes" check your broken headlight wires and see if any were cut or pinched

01-03-2008, 06:59 PM	#23
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Bump... because not being able to drive at night blows.

01-08-2008, 06:42 PM	#24
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01-09-2008, 09:29 PM	#25
waynehead05 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas Age: 38 Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i've had the worst luck with the pop ups in the past and it was always the relays. i'd swap them all out for know good ones. i bet you it's not the motors. it almost never is. __________________ Who in their right mind would want to lead this nation of Me-First Right-Now Do Nothings??

01-09-2008, 09:44 PM	#26
KA-T_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 38 Posts: 1,788 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sounds like your car has some wiring problems. Is your car lowered, swapped, or been wrecked? Can you see someone hacked wiring in the engine bay or under the dash? A fuse really shouldn't cause that problem. They either work or they don't. __________________

01-09-2008, 10:03 PM	#28
KA-T_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 38 Posts: 1,788 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stary by checking out the basic maintance stuff on our cars. What motor, how many miles...... What are the symptoms and all that. __________________

01-09-2008, 10:30 PM	#29
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	sorry for the double post