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turbo240sx · 10-24-2002, 11:35 AM

i finished the quarter in the top of 3rd gear, at like
6800 rpm, you said you finished in 4th?
do you have differant gear ratios? 4:36 or maybe 4:60?

KoukiS14 · 10-24-2002, 09:26 AM

I KNOW for a fact 15.4 is obtainable, I stood there (and got VIDEO footage I have yet to digitize) of Evil S14s run... No LSD, dual N1. . etc...  Fairly stock really, so maybe the 14.xx is obtainable.. =)  Maybe our cars don't suck that much haha

-Rob

**Phlip** · 10-24-2002, 09:43 AM

Someone just pegged my bullshit meter... Was this in an eighth mile track or the quarter? I know people with modded SRs running 14s with piss poor traction.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 09:03 PM

I just went to the track and ran a 14.68 @ 94.4 mph!!!  My 96SE is COMPLETELY stock except for a new clutch.  This is improved over a 15.03 @ 92.  Is anyone else getting times near this?  Any one in the DE area want to race?

SilviaDriver · 10-23-2002, 09:07 PM

time slip

xNotoriousGQx · 10-23-2002, 09:09 PM

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> WOW! Impressive time.  Good Job!

BadMoJo · 10-23-2002, 09:17 PM

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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timeslip and picts of fully un-modded car....

untill then i say  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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xLSTONEx · 10-23-2002, 09:17 PM

Ok unless you have slicks or something, that is so much bullshit. No offence but I also own a s14 and there is no possible way. If you had slicks it still would nearly impossible. There is just no absolute way if you are in a KA engine. Hopefully you are talking about a stock SR20.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 09:17 PM

Timeslip on the way (friend is scanning it).

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 09:32 PM

Don't blame you guys for not believing, I have trouble believing. After all it is only a stock KA, no slicks, not even LSD (there was actually quite a bit of wheelspin through first). I was just wondering what others are running. I knew it was kind of a freak, I can beat my friend's Integra GSR and stay even w/ anothers mustang 5.0, who also has an auto 240 that ran 16.2 w/ a bad launch the same night. I was wondering if a cam swap or any other internal mods by the previous owner could account for the glaring discrepancy in performance.

whateverjames · 10-23-2002, 09:33 PM

was there a 400mph wind going in the same direction? going downhill? being pushed by a corvette? slip the track guys an extra $20? was it your birthday? did you sell your soul? details please!

Potatoskins02 · 10-23-2002, 09:43 PM

you might want to check the manufacturer and the type of car you own...................... i can imagine someone getting a time of maybe 15.5 but w/ no lsd its kinda hard to believe if you don't have slicks. Or are you 1000's of feet below sea level? If you had racing cams you would notice the difference. I believe they cause a harsher idle but more importantly change your powerband.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 09:53 PM

I'm @ sea level.

240racer · 10-23-2002, 10:03 PM

I think you are looking at the wrong side of the timeslip

gabossie · 10-23-2002, 10:04 PM

Ummmmm... I look foreward to seeing the time slip <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> I don't want to call you a liar, but there just has to be something that we aren't seeing here, I just don't see how that is possible.

Potatoskins02 · 10-23-2002, 10:09 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240racer @ Oct. 23 2002,11:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think you are looking at the wrong side of the timeslip</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I second this. I hate to say this though even if i do see a timeslip i'll still be skeptical of the time. I honestly would have to be up there at the track and watch your car go.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 10:15 PM

i have a pic of the car, timeslip may take a while.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 10:18 PM

like I said i dont blame you guys.  I definately wouldn't believe me either.

240racer · 10-23-2002, 10:35 PM

first question, what gear are you in at the finish line?
second, please list your mods you think you might have, so I can get them.  list everything, no interior, k&n panel filter, etc.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 10:42 PM

there is a pic of my car @ 240.  The top timeslip is my friends camaro.  The bottom is my old timeslip from july (i'm on the right).  And that is my car.  I would get more pics but i have no scanner.

Sixbanger · 10-23-2002, 10:45 PM

Is your car a base model with no sunroof, no ac, nothing... that might help explain a little, still a crazy time to be running.

Evil S14 · 10-23-2002, 10:59 PM

and people thought i was full of shit when i ran 15.3 with just an exhaust, do u not have power steering or an interior?.  Maybe the place messed up, shit happens, one time my friends auto mustang which runs 14s consistent ran a 13.5. i think the machine messed up, especially if u only ran a 15 before.  Also we have a dragstrip in muncie that is at a slight decline, maybe urs is too

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 11:01 PM

I pass the line in fourth, I have full interior, not even a new air filter although i did disconnect the piping going to the airbox for the 14.68.  The clutch is the only other mod, i got that out of a 93 240 in which i also took the tranny.  The 5th/rev shift fork broke off from me powershifting and all the synchros were gone out of the old one (no clutch, blipping throttle).  I also have 225 Bridgestone S-02's which did give me a ton more grip than the goodyear's it came with.  Thats everything i can think of.  Also as far as powerband, i make absolutely no power below 4000, then has a very abrupt surge and pulls hard as hell until 6000.  Weird huh?  It used to not have the surge @ 4K but i have run the living shit out of it and it seems to be, not slower, but definately not as smooth.  I launch @ ~4500 and slip the hell out of the clutch to keep it @ about 5000 with the throttle pegged and when it hooks i slam 2nd with a blip of the throttle and about an inch tap of the clutch.  2nd-3rd ~ 55mph,  3rd-4th ~ 81mph. thats about it. get all that?

Potatoskins02 · 10-23-2002, 11:02 PM

"hotrod?" ....... any who nice that you have a time slip..... better if you have a vid....(boy would that shut me up)

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 11:06 PM

Evil S14, track messup, maybe, which seems likely since i jumped from 10-15 run's between 15.0 and 15.1 all of a sudden to 14.68.  The track is definately flat however, if you've been to lower DE you would know that HAS to be true.
VERY flat state.

Potatoskins02 · 10-23-2002, 11:09 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Evil S14 @ Oct. 23 2002,11:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe the place messed up, shit happens, one time my friends auto mustang which runs 14s consistent ran a 13.5. i think the machine messed up, especially if u only ran a 15 before. Also we have a dragstrip in muncie that is at a slight decline, maybe urs is too</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that would explain a lot. I'm still not getting it though.......... but you know what if you got that more power to you. I just don't see how anyone else with mods (intake, exhaust, header, clutch, lsd) wouldn't be posting amazing times like yours from DE.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 11:11 PM

sixbanger, actually it's a fully loaded SE, everything but leather and the ABS/LSD package.  I registered as HOTROD to try to get a matchup with one of my friends (camaros and mustangs).  They made me look rather slow though.

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 11:17 PM

240 is the correct address.  I gave you only the one timeslip. my car is in the middle.  Since then have gottn hit in the back TWO times and hit a deer.  Definately not as pretty anymore.

Evil S14 · 10-23-2002, 11:25 PM

that explais it, it was a magical deer with super powers,  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

chinderer · 10-23-2002, 11:33 PM

Oh and i foregot, i am pushing 93000 miles, so when i change the timing chain shortly i am definately going to take a look at the head/int./exh.  I'm half expecting to find them fully ported. Anyway, i never expected to type this much stuff just to show you that i'm not lieing.  It always turns out this way after racing and the questions like 'where's the nitrous?' come up, especially after racing 240's (i smoke every one of them).  Also, can you guys detail your runs, I think alot of the time is from my driving, cuz i consistantly knock alot of time off my friends times in their cars (even though i've blown three of their tranny's - whoops).  Anyway, its late thank you all for your time and comments.

10-24-2002, 11:35 AM	#1
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i finished the quarter in the top of 3rd gear, at like 6800 rpm, you said you finished in 4th? do you have differant gear ratios? 4:36 or maybe 4:60? __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

10-24-2002, 09:26 AM	#2
KoukiS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Indiana Age: 47 Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I KNOW for a fact 15.4 is obtainable, I stood there (and got VIDEO footage I have yet to digitize) of Evil S14s run... No LSD, dual N1. . etc...  Fairly stock really, so maybe the 14.xx is obtainable.. =)  Maybe our cars don't suck that much haha -Rob __________________

10-24-2002, 09:43 AM	#3
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Someone just pegged my bullshit meter... Was this in an eighth mile track or the quarter? I know people with modded SRs running 14s with piss poor traction. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

10-23-2002, 09:09 PM	#6
xNotoriousGQx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 447 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> WOW! Impressive time.  Good Job! __________________ www.RevTechRacing.com

10-23-2002, 09:17 PM	#7
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> timeslip and picts of fully un-modded car.... untill then i say  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ ----Gone----

10-23-2002, 09:03 PM	#4
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just went to the track and ran a 14.68 @ 94.4 mph!!!  My 96SE is COMPLETELY stock except for a new clutch.  This is improved over a 15.03 @ 92.  Is anyone else getting times near this?  Any one in the DE area want to race?

10-23-2002, 09:07 PM	#5
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	time slip

10-23-2002, 09:17 PM	#8
xLSTONEx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 39 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok unless you have slicks or something, that is so much bullshit. No offence but I also own a s14 and there is no possible way. If you had slicks it still would nearly impossible. There is just no absolute way if you are in a KA engine. Hopefully you are talking about a stock SR20.

10-23-2002, 09:32 PM	#10
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't blame you guys for not believing, I have trouble believing. After all it is only a stock KA, no slicks, not even LSD (there was actually quite a bit of wheelspin through first). I was just wondering what others are running. I knew it was kind of a freak, I can beat my friend's Integra GSR and stay even w/ anothers mustang 5.0, who also has an auto 240 that ran 16.2 w/ a bad launch the same night. I was wondering if a cam swap or any other internal mods by the previous owner could account for the glaring discrepancy in performance.

10-23-2002, 09:33 PM	#11
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	was there a 400mph wind going in the same direction? going downhill? being pushed by a corvette? slip the track guys an extra $20? was it your birthday? did you sell your soul? details please! __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

10-23-2002, 09:43 PM	#12
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you might want to check the manufacturer and the type of car you own...................... i can imagine someone getting a time of maybe 15.5 but w/ no lsd its kinda hard to believe if you don't have slicks. Or are you 1000's of feet below sea level? If you had racing cams you would notice the difference. I believe they cause a harsher idle but more importantly change your powerband. __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-23-2002, 09:53 PM	#13
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm @ sea level.

10-23-2002, 10:03 PM	#14
240racer Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Age: 46 Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think you are looking at the wrong side of the timeslip __________________ Adam '89 coupe KA24DE+T 14.1 @ 104 MPH '88 Celica All-Trac turbo stock, but no more ecu codes!!

10-23-2002, 10:09 PM	#16
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240racer @ Oct. 23 2002,11:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think you are looking at the wrong side of the timeslip</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I second this. I hate to say this though even if i do see a timeslip i'll still be skeptical of the time. I honestly would have to be up there at the track and watch your car go. __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-23-2002, 10:15 PM	#17
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have a pic of the car, timeslip may take a while.

10-23-2002, 10:18 PM	#18
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	like I said i dont blame you guys.  I definately wouldn't believe me either.

10-23-2002, 10:35 PM	#19
240racer Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Age: 46 Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	first question, what gear are you in at the finish line? second, please list your mods you think you might have, so I can get them.  list everything, no interior, k&n panel filter, etc. __________________ Adam '89 coupe KA24DE+T 14.1 @ 104 MPH '88 Celica All-Trac turbo stock, but no more ecu codes!!

10-23-2002, 10:42 PM	#20
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there is a pic of my car @ 240.  The top timeslip is my friends camaro.  The bottom is my old timeslip from july (i'm on the right).  And that is my car.  I would get more pics but i have no scanner.

10-23-2002, 10:45 PM	#21
Sixbanger Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is your car a base model with no sunroof, no ac, nothing... that might help explain a little, still a crazy time to be running.

10-23-2002, 10:59 PM	#22
Evil S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indianapolis/Bloomington Age: 41 Posts: 610 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and people thought i was full of shit when i ran 15.3 with just an exhaust, do u not have power steering or an interior?.  Maybe the place messed up, shit happens, one time my friends auto mustang which runs 14s consistent ran a 13.5. i think the machine messed up, especially if u only ran a 15 before.  Also we have a dragstrip in muncie that is at a slight decline, maybe urs is too __________________ image exceeds forum limit -Moderation

10-23-2002, 11:01 PM	#23
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I pass the line in fourth, I have full interior, not even a new air filter although i did disconnect the piping going to the airbox for the 14.68.  The clutch is the only other mod, i got that out of a 93 240 in which i also took the tranny.  The 5th/rev shift fork broke off from me powershifting and all the synchros were gone out of the old one (no clutch, blipping throttle).  I also have 225 Bridgestone S-02's which did give me a ton more grip than the goodyear's it came with.  Thats everything i can think of.  Also as far as powerband, i make absolutely no power below 4000, then has a very abrupt surge and pulls hard as hell until 6000.  Weird huh?  It used to not have the surge @ 4K but i have run the living shit out of it and it seems to be, not slower, but definately not as smooth.  I launch @ ~4500 and slip the hell out of the clutch to keep it @ about 5000 with the throttle pegged and when it hooks i slam 2nd with a blip of the throttle and about an inch tap of the clutch.  2nd-3rd ~ 55mph,  3rd-4th ~ 81mph. thats about it. get all that?

10-23-2002, 11:02 PM	#24
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	"hotrod?" ....... any who nice that you have a time slip..... better if you have a vid....(boy would that shut me up) __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-23-2002, 11:06 PM	#25
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Evil S14, track messup, maybe, which seems likely since i jumped from 10-15 run's between 15.0 and 15.1 all of a sudden to 14.68.  The track is definately flat however, if you've been to lower DE you would know that HAS to be true. VERY flat state.

10-23-2002, 11:09 PM	#26
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Evil S14 @ Oct. 23 2002,11:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe the place messed up, shit happens, one time my friends auto mustang which runs 14s consistent ran a 13.5. i think the machine messed up, especially if u only ran a 15 before. Also we have a dragstrip in muncie that is at a slight decline, maybe urs is too</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> that would explain a lot. I'm still not getting it though.......... but you know what if you got that more power to you. I just don't see how anyone else with mods (intake, exhaust, header, clutch, lsd) wouldn't be posting amazing times like yours from DE. __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-23-2002, 11:11 PM	#27
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sixbanger, actually it's a fully loaded SE, everything but leather and the ABS/LSD package.  I registered as HOTROD to try to get a matchup with one of my friends (camaros and mustangs).  They made me look rather slow though.

10-23-2002, 11:17 PM	#28
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	240 is the correct address.  I gave you only the one timeslip. my car is in the middle.  Since then have gottn hit in the back TWO times and hit a deer.  Definately not as pretty anymore.

10-23-2002, 11:25 PM	#29
Evil S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indianapolis/Bloomington Age: 41 Posts: 610 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that explais it, it was a magical deer with super powers,  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ image exceeds forum limit -Moderation

10-23-2002, 11:33 PM	#30
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh and i foregot, i am pushing 93000 miles, so when i change the timing chain shortly i am definately going to take a look at the head/int./exh.  I'm half expecting to find them fully ported. Anyway, i never expected to type this much stuff just to show you that i'm not lieing.  It always turns out this way after racing and the questions like 'where's the nitrous?' come up, especially after racing 240's (i smoke every one of them).  Also, can you guys detail your runs, I think alot of the time is from my driving, cuz i consistantly knock alot of time off my friends times in their cars (even though i've blown three of their tranny's - whoops).  Anyway, its late thank you all for your time and comments.