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red240ne · 10-29-2002, 10:08 AM

i was minding my own business yesterday at borders. does anyone else go there? they have great drinks, better than any starbucks....anyways, i was reading that sports car magazine with a 350z on it(great article, a must read)  AND ANYWAYS, there was this new BANZAI magazine, it said it was from England, maybe it's something new, maybe not, but they had this sweeeet 180sx in it!! according to them though, it was a 200sx!! omg! i can't believe all of these stupid magazines lately.  200sx???  they said it 7 or 8 times. they never corrected themselves.  perdon mi, but isn't anything with a ca18det an early model 180sx!!!!!!? come on!(ka bon&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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AutoDestruct · 10-29-2002, 10:15 AM

No.  After the original run of 180's they kept making them except they went with sr20's instead of Ca18's.  Hence 200sx.   You better get on the Asbestos underware real quick man.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

red240ne · 10-29-2002, 10:18 AM

yea, it had a ca18det in it though, is what i'm saying.   180sx!

red240ne · 10-29-2002, 10:19 AM

just look at the mag and you'll understand, and be disappointed.

misnomer · 10-29-2002, 10:31 AM

whoah dood, be careful before flaming magazines. . . iirc, even the 180sx hasn't had the ca18 motor for ten years or so.180sx is basically a fastback s13, whereas the 200sx is the name for the Silvia coupe body style outside of Japan.So now you know.

red240ne · 10-29-2002, 10:37 AM

let's just stop arguing until someone else actually reads the magazine themself

red240ne · 10-29-2002, 10:38 AM

ok, maybe it could have been one of those european 200sx's or whatever, but i'm pretty sure this was a 180

Foxcolt · 10-29-2002, 10:43 AM

To my knowledge they are all called 200sx's in Europe.

Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

red240ne · 10-29-2002, 10:46 AM

which i just said.

Foxcolt · 10-29-2002, 10:56 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AutoDestruct @ Oct. 29 2002,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No. After the original run of 180's they kept making them except they went with sr20's instead of Ca18's. Hence 200sx. You better get on the Asbestos underware real quick man. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
In England they never had an s13 with an SR. They went straight from the ca18 powered fastback to the silvia coupe (S14) with SR.

Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

Foxcolt · 10-29-2002, 10:57 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (red240ne @ Oct. 29 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">which i just said.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Maybe I'm not understanding you. But this whole thread is nothing but wrong information.

Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

red240ne · 10-29-2002, 11:01 AM

tru tru, maybe so, but i got my posts up! unless they delete it...

240Driver39 · 10-29-2002, 11:25 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">tru tru, maybe so, but i got my posts up! unless they delete it...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> This is whats bad for the forums, and i suppose this is where i call for a mod to work their magic and close this <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

AKADriver · 10-29-2002, 11:36 AM

wow, wtf?

Euro-spec S13, S14 = 200SX.

Euro-spec S13's were all hatchbacks with the CA18DET, even after Japan switched over to the SR.

Euro-spec S14's were all SR20DET powered, but they had bodywork and trim more like a 240SX than a Silvia.  The SR20DET was detuned to 200hp, but it was a full-fledged S14 SR20DET with VCT.

The names 180SX and 200SX are no real indication of the engine size, don't take them as such.  They're just names.

CoasTek240 · 10-29-2002, 12:15 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Oct. 28 2002,1:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wow, wtf?

Euro-spec S13, S14 = 200SX.

Euro-spec S13's were all hatchbacks with the CA18DET, even after Japan switched over to the SR.

Euro-spec S14's were all SR20DET powered, but they had bodywork and trim more like a 240SX than a Silvia. The SR20DET was detuned to 200hp, but it was a full-fledged S14 SR20DET with VCT.

The names 180SX and 200SX are no real indication of the engine size, don't take them as such. They're just names.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
beat me to it.. the only time u should really pay attention to the name and relate it to it's class is in japan, where the cars are actually made. in europe still called the s13's 200sx's... but i wasn;t sur ebout the s13 never having an sr20. cuz my friend has two s14's both with sr20det in denmark and he's got a 91 200sx and it has an sr20 and he didn't do the swap, and he's the second owner next to an old guy and he's pretty sure the old guy didn't do the swap.. so it's kinda weird..can u make sure of that for me.. ? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turn.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':turn:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

flipboi13 · 10-29-2002, 12:57 PM

I thought I was going to read some story about a 240sx vs 200sx race or something, but instead i come upon some guy who doesn't know what he's talking about... someone delete this post before the IQ on zilvia.net goes down 10 more points.

Banzai magazine has been around a bit actually, and i realized they called s14s 200sxs there in europe the first time.  You can even go to a European website and find pics of the Euro spec Silvia S15 Spev V which is called a 200SX Spev V.  I don't like the mag tho, too many ugly girls.

flipboi13 · 10-29-2002, 12:59 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Oct. 29 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The names 180SX and 200SX are no real indication of the engine size, don't take them as such. They're just names.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Outside of the US anyway.

AKADriver · 10-29-2002, 01:24 PM

Inside the US too.  We've had cars called "200SX" that had a 2.0, a 1.8 turbo, a 3.0 V6, and even some FWD cars with a 1.6.  It's just a name.

Yes I'm sure they never got an S13 SR20DET in Europe.

Read for yourself on 200sx.nu:

<a href="http://web.200sx.nu/English/ombilarna/Modellinfo.asp" target='_blank'>http://web.200sx.nu/English/ombilarna/Modellinfo.asp</a>

AutoDestruct · 10-29-2002, 02:25 PM

okay, okay.  He red can I borrow those underware? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

camppain · 10-29-2002, 03:21 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (red240ne @ Oct. 30 2002,12:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">tru tru, maybe so, but i got my posts up! unless they delete it...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

240sxtreme · 10-29-2002, 03:54 PM

also, I believe Australia gets the "200sx" instead of silvia as well...in fact, isn't there an Australian guy on the zilvia board?

as far as the s13 fastback(ie 180sx), 94-up, please provide some sort of reference that it never had the SR20...because everything I've seen since says it has the SR20...the blacktop.

once again, I'll tell anyone who's interested in the SR20 to please read the 240's community SR20 Faq's. If you can prove there's something wrong with the FAQ's, then you'll be big man on campus...http://srswap.com/html/info/faq_specs.htm

that's it, I'm changing my sig as of right now.

ruf · 10-29-2002, 03:55 PM

Yes please. It's idiots like these that spread misinformation and have no idea what they are talking about that make me not even want to come on this forum, even for laughs. Nothing but SR dreamers, and the SR isn't all that much to dream about. It was funny at first but after a while it's really annoying to watch a relatively new community eaten away by TvN3rZ. Custom Injen ram air, Vibrant (WTF is that?) exhaust? 300Z fuel filter? oooooh. Post less, research more, get a job, and modify your car instead of dreaming about it. If you want to camp here and babble, fine but quit making sh!tpiles of misinformation for others to clean up.

And don't get me started on people that so vocally "hate ricers" but defend companies like Konig and Velox as acceptable alternatives to those "outlandishly expensive JDM rims".

Black Apple · 10-29-2002, 04:20 PM

what was the 200sx here?

i beleive it was fwd but i don't see many of them. For some reason i'm tinking it's a sentra or somthing similar

please correct me

ruf · 10-29-2002, 04:24 PM

Basically a sporty 2-door Sentra. I recall a British announcer mistaking it for RWD European car of the same name in a US race throughout the entire race. Kept talking about the FWD Civic vs. the RWD 200SX when it was obviously the FWD US 200SX. Oops... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

camppain · 10-29-2002, 04:30 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ruf @ Oct. 30 2002,05:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Basically a sporty 2-door Sentra. I recall a British announcer mistaking it for RWD European car of the same name in a US race throughout the entire race. Kept talking about the FWD Civic vs. the RWD 200SX when it was obviously the FWD US 200SX. Oops... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ruf is right the 200sx is a sentra with 2 dors and vice versa. like mine which has the fabeled sr20de! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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flipboi13 · 10-29-2002, 05:06 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do all US 200SXs have SR20DEs? and Sentra SE-Rs have the SR20DE? and all lower models have the weak B16 killing GA16DE.

240sxtreme · 10-29-2002, 05:44 PM

well, I don't know about pre-88...but here's what I do know.

88-VG30E, SR20DE

95-up-SR20DE, GA16DE

camppain · 10-29-2002, 08:31 PM

91-94 sentra se-r had the sr20de all other trims had ga16de's

95-97 200sx se-r's had sr20de's 98-01 sentra se's have sr20de's opther trims up untill 00 had ga until the qg18de replaced the ga

AKADriver · 10-29-2002, 07:35 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxtreme @ Oct. 29 2002,4:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">also, I believe Australia gets the "200sx" instead of silvia as well...in fact, isn't there an Australian guy on the zilvia board?

as far as the s13 fastback(ie 180sx), 94-up, please provide some sort of reference that it never had the SR20...because everything I've seen since says it has the SR20...the blacktop.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yes, Australia got S14 and S15 models badged '200SX' with the same detuned 200hp SR20DET as Europe.  Australia got no S13 available new.  They do have a very healthy stream of S13s imported into their country from Japan.  These are full Japanese spec Silvias and 180SXs powered by CA18 ('89-'90) or SR20 ('91-'98) engines.

In reference to your second comment, I was referring only to European-market, 200SX-badged models!  Read my posts before calling BS <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  In Europe the S13 hatchback was available from '89-'94 with the CA18DET only.  There are S13s with SR20DETs swapped into them there, and in England in particular there are some imported JDM S13s, but these are not original Euro-spec models, and they are not badged '200SX'.

AKADriver · 10-29-2002, 07:43 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxtreme @ Oct. 29 2002,6:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well, I don't know about pre-88...but here's what I do know.

88-VG30E, SR20DE

95-up-SR20DE, GA16DE</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The original S10 200SX came to the US in 1976, powered by an L20.

In 1979 the S110 200SX was released, powered by a Z20.

In 1984 the S12 200SX was released, powered by a CA20E or CA18ET.  In 1987 the CA18ET was dropped and the VG30E was added.  Canada kept the CA18ET as an option.

All of the preceding are rear wheel drive cars based on the Silvia family.

In 1989 the S13 240SX replaced the S12.

The 1995-1998 US-spec 200SX was... horribly misnamed, since it wasn't based on an S-chassis.  It was a B-chassis (Sentra) powered by a GA16DE (XE, SE) or SR20DE (SE-R).

10-29-2002, 10:08 AM	#1
red240ne Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i was minding my own business yesterday at borders. does anyone else go there? they have great drinks, better than any starbucks....anyways, i was reading that sports car magazine with a 350z on it(great article, a must read)  AND ANYWAYS, there was this new BANZAI magazine, it said it was from England, maybe it's something new, maybe not, but they had this sweeeet 180sx in it!! according to them though, it was a 200sx!! omg! i can't believe all of these stupid magazines lately.  200sx???  they said it 7 or 8 times. they never corrected themselves.  perdon mi, but isn't anything with a ca18det an early model 180sx!!!!!!? come on!(ka bon&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ nebraska sucks

10-29-2002, 10:19 AM	#4
red240ne Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	just look at the mag and you'll understand, and be disappointed. __________________ nebraska sucks

10-29-2002, 10:31 AM	#5
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whoah dood, be careful before flaming magazines. . . iirc, even the 180sx hasn't had the ca18 motor for ten years or so.180sx is basically a fastback s13, whereas the 200sx is the name for the Silvia coupe body style outside of Japan.So now you know. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

10-29-2002, 10:37 AM	#6
red240ne Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	let's just stop arguing until someone else actually reads the magazine themself __________________ nebraska sucks

10-29-2002, 10:38 AM	#7
red240ne Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok, maybe it could have been one of those european 200sx's or whatever, but i'm pretty sure this was a 180 __________________ nebraska sucks

10-29-2002, 10:15 AM	#2
AutoDestruct Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Burg, Harrisburg Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No.  After the original run of 180's they kept making them except they went with sr20's instead of Ca18's.  Hence 200sx.   You better get on the Asbestos underware real quick man.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

10-29-2002, 10:18 AM	#3
red240ne Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yea, it had a ca18det in it though, is what i'm saying.   180sx! __________________ nebraska sucks

10-29-2002, 10:43 AM	#8
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	To my knowledge they are all called 200sx's in Europe. Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

10-29-2002, 10:46 AM	#9
red240ne Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	which i just said. __________________ nebraska sucks

10-29-2002, 10:56 AM	#10
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AutoDestruct @ Oct. 29 2002,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No. After the original run of 180's they kept making them except they went with sr20's instead of Ca18's. Hence 200sx. You better get on the Asbestos underware real quick man. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> In England they never had an s13 with an SR. They went straight from the ca18 powered fastback to the silvia coupe (S14) with SR. Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

10-29-2002, 10:57 AM	#11
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (red240ne @ Oct. 29 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">which i just said.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Maybe I'm not understanding you. But this whole thread is nothing but wrong information. Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

10-29-2002, 11:01 AM	#12
red240ne Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	tru tru, maybe so, but i got my posts up! unless they delete it... __________________ nebraska sucks

10-29-2002, 11:25 AM	#13
240Driver39 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 40 Posts: 1,090 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: 240Driver39 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">tru tru, maybe so, but i got my posts up! unless they delete it...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> This is whats bad for the forums, and i suppose this is where i call for a mod to work their magic and close this <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> __________________ 1990 240sx 5spd fastback

10-29-2002, 11:36 AM	#14
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow, wtf? Euro-spec S13, S14 = 200SX. Euro-spec S13's were all hatchbacks with the CA18DET, even after Japan switched over to the SR. Euro-spec S14's were all SR20DET powered, but they had bodywork and trim more like a 240SX than a Silvia.  The SR20DET was detuned to 200hp, but it was a full-fledged S14 SR20DET with VCT. The names 180SX and 200SX are no real indication of the engine size, don't take them as such.  They're just names.

10-29-2002, 12:15 PM	#15
CoasTek240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,034 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Oct. 28 2002,1:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wow, wtf? Euro-spec S13, S14 = 200SX. Euro-spec S13's were all hatchbacks with the CA18DET, even after Japan switched over to the SR. Euro-spec S14's were all SR20DET powered, but they had bodywork and trim more like a 240SX than a Silvia. The SR20DET was detuned to 200hp, but it was a full-fledged S14 SR20DET with VCT. The names 180SX and 200SX are no real indication of the engine size, don't take them as such. They're just names.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> beat me to it.. the only time u should really pay attention to the name and relate it to it's class is in japan, where the cars are actually made. in europe still called the s13's 200sx's... but i wasn;t sur ebout the s13 never having an sr20. cuz my friend has two s14's both with sr20det in denmark and he's got a 91 200sx and it has an sr20 and he didn't do the swap, and he's the second owner next to an old guy and he's pretty sure the old guy didn't do the swap.. so it's kinda weird..can u make sure of that for me.. ? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turn.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':turn:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

10-29-2002, 12:57 PM	#16
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought I was going to read some story about a 240sx vs 200sx race or something, but instead i come upon some guy who doesn't know what he's talking about... someone delete this post before the IQ on zilvia.net goes down 10 more points. Banzai magazine has been around a bit actually, and i realized they called s14s 200sxs there in europe the first time.  You can even go to a European website and find pics of the Euro spec Silvia S15 Spev V which is called a 200SX Spev V.  I don't like the mag tho, too many ugly girls.

10-29-2002, 12:59 PM	#17
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Oct. 29 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The names 180SX and 200SX are no real indication of the engine size, don't take them as such. They're just names.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Outside of the US anyway.

10-29-2002, 01:24 PM	#18
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Inside the US too.  We've had cars called "200SX" that had a 2.0, a 1.8 turbo, a 3.0 V6, and even some FWD cars with a 1.6.  It's just a name. Yes I'm sure they never got an S13 SR20DET in Europe. Read for yourself on 200sx.nu: <a href="http://web.200sx.nu/English/ombilarna/Modellinfo.asp" target='_blank'>http://web.200sx.nu/English/ombilarna/Modellinfo.asp</a>

10-29-2002, 02:25 PM	#19
AutoDestruct Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Burg, Harrisburg Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	okay, okay.  He red can I borrow those underware? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

10-29-2002, 03:21 PM	#20
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (red240ne @ Oct. 30 2002,12:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">tru tru, maybe so, but i got my posts up! unless they delete it...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

10-29-2002, 03:54 PM	#21
240sxtreme Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Portland, OR Age: 48 Posts: 386 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	also, I believe Australia gets the "200sx" instead of silvia as well...in fact, isn't there an Australian guy on the zilvia board? as far as the s13 fastback(ie 180sx), 94-up, please provide some sort of reference that it never had the SR20...because everything I've seen since says it has the SR20...the blacktop. once again, I'll tell anyone who's interested in the SR20 to please read the 240's community SR20 Faq's. If you can prove there's something wrong with the FAQ's, then you'll be big man on campus...http://srswap.com/html/info/faq_specs.htm that's it, I'm changing my sig as of right now.

10-29-2002, 03:55 PM	#22
ruf Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Reflex Racing, Los Angeles,TX Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes please. It's idiots like these that spread misinformation and have no idea what they are talking about that make me not even want to come on this forum, even for laughs. Nothing but SR dreamers, and the SR isn't all that much to dream about. It was funny at first but after a while it's really annoying to watch a relatively new community eaten away by TvN3rZ. Custom Injen ram air, Vibrant (WTF is that?) exhaust? 300Z fuel filter? oooooh. Post less, research more, get a job, and modify your car instead of dreaming about it. If you want to camp here and babble, fine but quit making sh!tpiles of misinformation for others to clean up. And don't get me started on people that so vocally "hate ricers" but defend companies like Konig and Velox as acceptable alternatives to those "outlandishly expensive JDM rims".

10-29-2002, 04:20 PM	#23
Black Apple Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what was the 200sx here? i beleive it was fwd but i don't see many of them. For some reason i'm tinking it's a sentra or somthing similar please correct me __________________ Drive it like you stole it

10-29-2002, 04:24 PM	#24
ruf Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Reflex Racing, Los Angeles,TX Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Basically a sporty 2-door Sentra. I recall a British announcer mistaking it for RWD European car of the same name in a US race throughout the entire race. Kept talking about the FWD Civic vs. the RWD 200SX when it was obviously the FWD US 200SX. Oops... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

10-29-2002, 04:30 PM	#25
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ruf @ Oct. 30 2002,05:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Basically a sporty 2-door Sentra. I recall a British announcer mistaking it for RWD European car of the same name in a US race throughout the entire race. Kept talking about the FWD Civic vs. the RWD 200SX when it was obviously the FWD US 200SX. Oops... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> ruf is right the 200sx is a sentra with 2 dors and vice versa. like mine which has the fabeled sr20de! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

10-29-2002, 05:06 PM	#26
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Correct me if I'm wrong, but do all US 200SXs have SR20DEs? and Sentra SE-Rs have the SR20DE? and all lower models have the weak B16 killing GA16DE.

10-29-2002, 05:44 PM	#27
240sxtreme Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Portland, OR Age: 48 Posts: 386 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well, I don't know about pre-88...but here's what I do know. 88-VG30E, SR20DE 95-up-SR20DE, GA16DE

10-29-2002, 08:31 PM	#28
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	91-94 sentra se-r had the sr20de all other trims had ga16de's 95-97 200sx se-r's had sr20de's 98-01 sentra se's have sr20de's opther trims up untill 00 had ga until the qg18de replaced the ga __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

10-29-2002, 07:35 PM	#29
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxtreme @ Oct. 29 2002,4:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">also, I believe Australia gets the "200sx" instead of silvia as well...in fact, isn't there an Australian guy on the zilvia board? as far as the s13 fastback(ie 180sx), 94-up, please provide some sort of reference that it never had the SR20...because everything I've seen since says it has the SR20...the blacktop.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Yes, Australia got S14 and S15 models badged '200SX' with the same detuned 200hp SR20DET as Europe.  Australia got no S13 available new.  They do have a very healthy stream of S13s imported into their country from Japan.  These are full Japanese spec Silvias and 180SXs powered by CA18 ('89-'90) or SR20 ('91-'98) engines. In reference to your second comment, I was referring only to European-market, 200SX-badged models!  Read my posts before calling BS <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  In Europe the S13 hatchback was available from '89-'94 with the CA18DET only.  There are S13s with SR20DETs swapped into them there, and in England in particular there are some imported JDM S13s, but these are not original Euro-spec models, and they are not badged '200SX'.

10-29-2002, 07:43 PM	#30
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxtreme @ Oct. 29 2002,6:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well, I don't know about pre-88...but here's what I do know. 88-VG30E, SR20DE 95-up-SR20DE, GA16DE</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> The original S10 200SX came to the US in 1976, powered by an L20. In 1979 the S110 200SX was released, powered by a Z20. In 1984 the S12 200SX was released, powered by a CA20E or CA18ET.  In 1987 the CA18ET was dropped and the VG30E was added.  Canada kept the CA18ET as an option. All of the preceding are rear wheel drive cars based on the Silvia family. In 1989 the S13 240SX replaced the S12. The 1995-1998 US-spec 200SX was... horribly misnamed, since it wasn't based on an S-chassis.  It was a B-chassis (Sentra) powered by a GA16DE (XE, SE) or SR20DE (SE-R).