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2,1 · 04-02-2008, 12:29 AM

Such as that plastic catch pan under the engin on the s14....do I need that or can it come off.(Cuz its Broke and being held up by tieraps)
and what about that ugly damn header sheild can that come off or what?
I only ask cuz how do you search for "do you need a plastic catch pan" if thats even what the damned thing is called. Just curious if you all had been in the same position before.

fran13 · 04-02-2008, 01:22 AM

nope man i dont think u need those parts i took mine off as well... they are pretty annoying.

SW20Racer · 04-02-2008, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 2,1

Such as that plastic catch pan under the engin on the s14....do I need that or can it come off.(Cuz its Broke and being held up by tieraps)
and what about that ugly damn header sheild can that come off or what?
I only ask cuz how do you search for "do you need a plastic catch pan" if thats even what the damned thing is called. Just curious if you all had been in the same position before.

if you're referring to the "skid plate" (the plastic flap underneath the engine) then no you dont need that. and yes the heat shield can come off, but i wouldnt worry about it until you're going ka-t or adding an aftermarket manifold...

***S14DB*** · 04-02-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SW20Racer

if you're referring to the "skid plate" (the plastic flap underneath the engine) then no you dont need that. and yes the heat shield can come off, but i wouldnt worry about it until you're going ka-t or adding an aftermarket manifold...

It's not a Skid plate. It's an Areo Tray. It rams air through the radiator and then flows it back under the car.

To the OP, you can buy a new one.

SW20Racer · 04-03-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

It's not a Skid plate. It's an Areo Tray. It rams air through the radiator and then flows it back under the car.

thanks for the clarification, sometimes i no make english good. smoke too many beers, and drink too many pots...

2,1 · 04-03-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SW20Racer

thanks for the clarification, sometimes i no make english good. smoke too many beers, and drink too many pots...

lol thats a good one

inertiadrft · 04-02-2008, 06:42 AM

Seven words:
If its not broken, Don't fix it..

Not that anyone here goes by that as a commandment.. including myself..

SoguRacing · 04-04-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by inertiadrft

Seven words:
If its not broken, Don't fix it..

Not that anyone here goes by that as a commandment.. including myself..

just had to add this...

"if it not broken, don't touch it.."

good sayings^

98s14inaz · 04-04-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SoguRacing

just had to add this...

"if it not broken, don't touch it.."

good sayings^

I'm going to agree with you there. One of the things I hate most is buying a 240 from a fan boi that got in over his head only to have to replace a bunch of shit that he removed because he thought "meh, I don't need this". Leave the damn car alone, Nissan engineers with far more education than you decided the 240 needed that stuff.

eulalia · 04-04-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

I'm going to agree with you there. One of the things I hate most is buying a 240 from a fan boi that got in over his head only to have to replace a bunch of shit that he removed because he thought "meh, I don't need this". Leave the damn car alone, Nissan engineers with far more education than you decided the 240 needed that stuff.

well put, i thought i was "cool" when i took off my back seats in my car.. lol

if nissan put items on your car, they put it in there for a damn good reason, now you could upgrade things in your car, but never take out items that help your car in the first place

just a thought

didderson · 04-04-2008, 03:24 PM

I always take the dumb hood insulation off. The particle foam or w/e that is on your hood. Just helps keep noise from the engine down for weak ass drivers. Also probably there to keep temps off your hood so the wind shield doesn't get as hot when driving. You could argue that it's to protect the hood paint but when you think about it the same paint is in the engine bay right next to the header and it doesn't oxidize or melt any faster.

Anyway, I always take it off, and I persuade my friends to do the same. It always gets oily and looks like crap, and saves weight

-I'm slightly obsessed w/ weight savings.

***S14DB*** · 04-04-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by didderson

I always take the dumb hood insulation off. The particle foam or w/e that is on your hood. Just helps keep noise from the engine down for weak ass drivers. Also probably there to keep temps off your hood so the wind shield doesn't get as hot when driving. You could argue that it's to protect the hood paint but when you think about it the same paint is in the engine bay right next to the header and it doesn't oxidize or melt any faster.

Anyway, I always take it off, and I persuade my friends to do the same. It always gets oily and looks like crap, and saves weight

-I'm slightly obsessed w/ weight savings.

It's not the same paint as the body. The Engine Bay has a Hardcoat Paint on it to withstand the heat and more so the solvents. If you do remove the liner I would replace it with a reflective coating such as gold foil or Honeycomb Aluminum foil.

johngriff · 04-04-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by didderson

I always take the dumb hood insulation off. The particle foam or w/e that is on your hood. Just helps keep noise from the engine down for weak ass drivers. Also probably there to keep temps off your hood so the wind shield doesn't get as hot when driving. You could argue that it's to protect the hood paint but when you think about it the same paint is in the engine bay right next to the header and it doesn't oxidize or melt any faster.

Anyway, I always take it off, and I persuade my friends to do the same. It always gets oily and looks like crap, and saves weight

-I'm slightly obsessed w/ weight savings.

Its there to prevent under hood fires dude.

Pacman · 04-04-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by johngriff

Its there to prevent under hood fires dude.

How? Does it help kill it?

You're in Folsom? Same here. What do you drive?

eulalia · 04-04-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

How? Does it help kill it?

You're in Folsom? Same here. What do you drive?

he drives the most bad ass 2jz renault.. lol

racepar1 · 04-04-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by johngriff

Its there to prevent under hood fires dude.

What? Who told you that? Once it gets soaked with oil and graese it would do more to encourage a fire than prevent it.

shmiddy · 04-02-2008, 12:48 PM

if you remove the heat sheild it wont sheild the heat from the exhaust manifold so its best u keep it on i guess. and the oil catch can is needed so like previously posted

"if it aint broke dont fix it"

nissanguy13 · 04-02-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shmiddy

if you remove the heat sheild it wont sheild the heat from the exhaust manifold so its best u keep it on i guess. and the oil catch can is needed so like previously posted

"if it aint broke dont fix it"

how much damn heat do you really think is coming of a stock ka manifold?

bo2o · 04-02-2008, 01:12 PM

thats the restricter box i think.
if its broken and hangin off zipties then ditch it.!
take out the evap canister. that shit is anoyying. and clutch fan and go fal fans.
and egr.

racepar1 · 04-02-2008, 02:05 PM

OK guys he's talking about the plastic cover that goes between the tension rod brackets on the bottom of the car, NOT a catch can or intake part!

2,1 · 04-03-2008, 11:54 AM

yeah that pic is exactly what i need to you have a link to buy one? mine is hangin on via a zip tie, Thats why I asked if I needed it.

nissanguy13 · 04-03-2008, 12:11 PM

You don't need it, I usually take mine off.

***S14DB*** · 04-03-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2,1

yeah that pic is exactly what i need to you have a link to buy one? mine is hangin on via a zip tie, Thats why I asked if I needed it.

Courtesy Nissan has them or your local dealer can order one.

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Originally Posted by nissanguy13

You don't need it, I usually take mine off.

And then we get posts about how people are overheating at speed.

4bangers · 04-04-2008, 01:59 AM

s14DB, the pix you posted is the the oem tray you can get from courtesy parts? or is that an aftermarket one? it doens't look oem for some reason.

***S14DB*** · 04-04-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 4bangers

s14DB, the pix you posted is the the oem tray you can get from courtesy parts? or is that an aftermarket one? it doens't look oem for some reason.

Squint and you can see the Nissan Parts sticker in the center.

I got a PM about what part number it is and what's its name in the parts system. Here's the CourtesyParts.com listing. Check your local dealer cause I have to assume shipping a 3'x3' object can be expensive unless they roll it up.

http://www.courtesyparts.com/betasit...-p-138565.html

aznpoopy · 04-04-2008, 08:42 AM

alot of people have been running without that undertray for long periods without any problems, myself included. however, it helps rad cooling alot. i would definitely put it on for track days or drifting or wahtever.

my exhaust manifold heatshield rusted itself loose and never went back on. haven't had any problems there either.

johngriff · 04-04-2008, 11:05 AM

You do WANT that if you have it. Not only with aforementioned cooling, but keeping your engine bay clean. As soon as you take it off, all the dirt from the road will be pocketing in the engine bay. Reducing life expectancy of open element filters, making it dirty, and making an "air pocket" at speed in the engine bay.

So keep it on, even with zippy ties.

Gnnr · 04-04-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by johngriff

You do WANT that if you have it. Not only with aforementioned cooling, but keeping your engine bay clean. As soon as you take it off, all the dirt from the road will be pocketing in the engine bay. Reducing life expectancy of open element filters, making it dirty, and making an "air pocket" at speed in the engine bay.

So keep it on, even with zippy ties.

Beat me to it. Thats the biggest advantage to that tray, your engine bay gets diiiiirrrttttyy as fuck with out it.

nistech · 04-04-2008, 10:16 PM

i wouldnt take off the heat shield on the ex-manifold it damages the ac lines i took mine off before and the metal AC line broke cuz of the heat coming from the mani. i m sure this not gonna happen right away but it happens over time. there are many reasons that heat shield is on there trust me.

nissanguy13 · 04-04-2008, 10:27 PM

I took my first tray off because it was falling apart. The car I have now didn't come with one. I've never had a problem with overheating, but I would suggest keeping it if you have one or buying one if it's something you really care about. If you don't then leave it off. I will agree with everyone else though, it does keep your engine bay a lot cleaner.

I would also agree that there is very few things you could take off that would make a difference. (like that nasty pin striping some of them have lol). But for the most part leave everything on unless you upgrade

04-02-2008, 12:29 AM	#1
2,1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Age: 38 Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Parts you dont need...? Such as that plastic catch pan under the engin on the s14....do I need that or can it come off.(Cuz its Broke and being held up by tieraps) and what about that ugly damn header sheild can that come off or what? I only ask cuz how do you search for "do you need a plastic catch pan" if thats even what the damned thing is called. Just curious if you all had been in the same position before.

04-04-2008, 03:24 PM	#11
didderson Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phila/Lancaster, PA Age: 39 Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I always take the dumb hood insulation off. The particle foam or w/e that is on your hood. Just helps keep noise from the engine down for weak ass drivers. Also probably there to keep temps off your hood so the wind shield doesn't get as hot when driving. You could argue that it's to protect the hood paint but when you think about it the same paint is in the engine bay right next to the header and it doesn't oxidize or melt any faster. Anyway, I always take it off, and I persuade my friends to do the same. It always gets oily and looks like crap, and saves weight -I'm slightly obsessed w/ weight savings. __________________

04-02-2008, 12:48 PM	#17
shmiddy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: nyc Age: 39 Posts: 1,279 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	if you remove the heat sheild it wont sheild the heat from the exhaust manifold so its best u keep it on i guess. and the oil catch can is needed so like previously posted "if it aint broke dont fix it" __________________ i fully de-volved

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bo2o Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: 626 socal! Posts: 1,315 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	thats the restricter box i think. if its broken and hangin off zipties then ditch it.! take out the evap canister. that shit is anoyying. and clutch fan and go fal fans. and egr. __________________ fS! *vlsd ! slim fans ! hid kits ! lug nuts !* http://www.zilvia.net/f/search.php?d...earchuser=bo2o ^^^click^^^

04-04-2008, 11:05 AM	#27
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	You do WANT that if you have it. Not only with aforementioned cooling, but keeping your engine bay clean. As soon as you take it off, all the dirt from the road will be pocketing in the engine bay. Reducing life expectancy of open element filters, making it dirty, and making an "air pocket" at speed in the engine bay. So keep it on, even with zippy ties. __________________ [email protected]

04-02-2008, 01:22 AM	#2
fran13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ..... Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nope man i dont think u need those parts i took mine off as well... they are pretty annoying.

04-02-2008, 06:42 AM	#7
inertiadrft Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Straight Repp'n the FIVE-SIX-TWO and now The NINE-5-ONE Posts: 582 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Seven words: If its not broken, Don't fix it.. Not that anyone here goes by that as a commandment.. including myself..

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racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	OK guys he's talking about the plastic cover that goes between the tension rod brackets on the bottom of the car, NOT a catch can or intake part!

04-03-2008, 11:54 AM	#21
2,1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Age: 38 Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah that pic is exactly what i need to you have a link to buy one? mine is hangin on via a zip tie, Thats why I asked if I needed it.

04-04-2008, 01:59 AM	#24
4bangers Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: wa Age: 26 Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	s14DB, the pix you posted is the the oem tray you can get from courtesy parts? or is that an aftermarket one? it doens't look oem for some reason.

04-04-2008, 08:42 AM	#26
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	alot of people have been running without that undertray for long periods without any problems, myself included. however, it helps rad cooling alot. i would definitely put it on for track days or drifting or wahtever. my exhaust manifold heatshield rusted itself loose and never went back on. haven't had any problems there either.

04-04-2008, 10:16 PM	#29
nistech Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: CAli Age: 41 Posts: 746 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i wouldnt take off the heat shield on the ex-manifold it damages the ac lines i took mine off before and the metal AC line broke cuz of the heat coming from the mani. i m sure this not gonna happen right away but it happens over time. there are many reasons that heat shield is on there trust me. __________________