Tein suspension questions

[luke91]

I have a few questions for anyone who has the tein HE set-up:

Are the dampers adjustable at the base AS WELL AS at the spring pearch?

Do they permit a very low drop?

Are the pillow ball / complete upper mounts included?

Are any OEM parts re-used with the complete kit?

Right now, I have a full Ground Control / KYB AGX set-up. I just sold them, and I'm considering getting the Tein HE full kit. Since I don't have the installation instructions for the Ground Control / KYB set-up, I was considering keeping the upper mounts assembled, and sending the whole thing to the buyer. I just need to make sure Tein includes all those parts with their HE kits, so I don't have to find stock parts at a junkyard.
Thanks.

--Luke

[NiteKids]

I say either go w/ the flex model or just get the JIC FLT A2's. You won't lose shock travel when lowering it alot and also they both come w/ uppermounts that allow you adjust camber.

[luke91]

The flex model?

[NiteKids]

Tein Flex

[kalieaire]

you can swap the he's right in w/o any fuss.

they use their own pillowball mounts. if u look at the tein website, u'd see immediately that this would be the case.

the dampers are height adjustable, there's a long thread that encases the damper from top to bottom so u can adjust the spring perch and the damper heights.

it goes as low as you want it to.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by kalieaire
you can swap the he's right in w/o any fuss.

they use their own pillowball mounts. if u look at the tein website, u'd see immediately that this would be the case.

the dampers are height adjustable, there's a long thread that encases the damper from top to bottom so u can adjust the spring perch and the damper heights.

it goes as low as you want it to.

no, that's wrong
its not a damper height.
damper is adjusted at the top of the shock (in car engine bay area and in trunk area).

what the perches are for is spring height
and shock height

basically you can adjust the spring perch to change the shock's stroke length

you change the shock perch to lower/raise the car.

changing the spring perch height also afffects car's ride height.



btw, i have tein HE

[240Dori]

dousan, all i hear is people talking about how crappy the tein HE are is there any truth to this or is this just bandwaggon b.s.....i myself am in the market for coilovers so any imput will help, and i didnt pm this because i think that alot of people would like to hear about the HE from an owner

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by 240Dori
dousan, all i hear is people talking about how crappy the tein HE are is there any truth to this or is this just bandwaggon b.s.....i myself am in the market for coilovers so any imput will help, and i didnt pm this because i think that alot of people would like to hear about the HE from an owner

crappy?
to me yes they are ****
but i go to the track alot

people who 'street drift' or just spiritted driving yeah they are fine
on the track going lap after lap they SUCK. i know first hand. too much roll. if you are serious about track then go FLT-A2
otherwise if you putt on the strete maybe some auto x here and there then HE is fine

i talk crap on the HEs. im the one. but that's because I GO TO THE TRACK OFTEN.

and you need to use the search mode. search tein HE and you'll find me talkinga bout them on most every thread. this isnt new info.

[kalieaire]

Originally posted by dousan36
no, that's wrong
its not a damper height.
damper is adjusted at the top of the shock (in car engine bay area and in trunk area).

damper = The damper is the device that dissipates the energy and keeps the suspension from bouncing out of control.

The Damper HEIGHT, meaning the HEIGHT of the damper inside the rear lower shock mounts and front lower shock mounts are adustable meaning inside the shock assembly it can go up and down so you can lower and raise your car without affecting damper stroke and without increasing spring rates.

notice I didn't mention anything about the damper stroke in any part fo the post.

and yes, I know the damper is adjustable in rebound/bound settings from the top. I've even removed a few adjustment screws on them. TEINs can actually go well past the clicks and be a-ok.

btw-have you sent the bolt yet?? :P

(also, just cuz i don't have the HE's doesn't mean I haven't seen them and played around with them or experienced them first hand, why else would I choose those over another set such as jic flta2's or section/cusco coilovers, or apexi, or other teins like flex)

[ryan hagen]

check the tein site in the specs, some of the sets are pictured with the upper mounts but they dont actaully come with them. you can check in the spec/application guide because there is a column that says if they come with them or not....i was going to get ha's but then noticed they doen come with the mounts.....

[drifter1]

Go with the FLT A2, i have them personally and they are the bomb, my buddy wiht a 240 has the HEs and they pale in comparison, so much body roll. But, they are softer on the harsh streets.....but take your pic, ride quality or performance....

[NiteKids]

Too many people favor the Teins due to the JDM hype. That aren't quite as good as they are *ahem hyped up to be. They are great coilovers don't get me wrong but if you want better performance and a bit worse ride qaulity go with the JIC.

Not to menton you also won't have the same coilover that everyone any there mom has.

Kill two birds with one stone

1. More Original

2. Better Performance

3. About the same price

4. You can't lose!

[luke91]

NiteKids -
I would totally agree with you if you were correct about 1 thing.

The tein HE full kit retails for around $1300
The JIC FLT A2 is about $1900. I'm not sure if that extra $600 is worth spending. I don't road race my car, and I don't realy need that little extra.
I'm just trying to see how reliable the Teins are. I don't want to have any problems.
As for body roll - The Tein HE's have decently high spring rates. That combined with some ST sway bars should be sufficient - right?

--Luke

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by luke91
NiteKids -
I would totally agree with you if you were correct about 1 thing.

The tein HE full kit retails for around $1300
The JIC FLT A2 is about $1900. I'm not sure if that extra $600 is worth spending. I don't road race my car, and I don't realy need that little extra.
I'm just trying to see how reliable the Teins are. I don't want to have any problems.
As for body roll - The Tein HE's have decently high spring rates. That combined with some ST sway bars should be sufficient - right?

--Luke

if u pay 1900 for FLT-A2 you need to be kicked in the nuts. because your getting raped .hahahaha..

body roll? i had whitelines and HEs and hated it. hence, sold the whitelines and getting better coilovers soon (2 - 3 months).

if you dont road race or serious about drifting or anything like that, then go w/ the HEs, it will do well for you.

btw, dont ask me where you can get the FLT-A2s for cheaper.

for you, you'd be more happy w/ the Flex it sounds like.

[NiteKids]

Originally posted by luke91
NiteKids -
I would totally agree with you if you were correct about 1 thing.

The tein HE full kit retails for around $1300
The JIC FLT A2 is about $1900. I'm not sure if that extra $600 is worth spending. I don't road race my car, and I don't realy need that little extra.
I'm just trying to see how reliable the Teins are. I don't want to have any problems.
As for body roll - The Tein HE's have decently high spring rates. That combined with some ST sway bars should be sufficient - right?

--Luke

1900 sorry to quote aaron but your gettin kicked in the nuts if you pay that price. I know somewhere you can get them for about 1500. Cough cough phase2 Cough cough

[luke91]

Cough Cough Thanks Cough

--luke

[Yoshi]

Originally posted by luke91
I was considering keeping the upper mounts assembled, and sending the whole thing to the buyer. I just need to make sure Tein includes all those parts with their HE kits, so I don't have to find stock parts at a junkyard.
Thanks.

--Luke

Don't take your GC's/AGX apart, all the mount stuff goes together on those, if you keep the mounts, your buyer would need all new parts from GC (as well as a bunch of stock stuff) just to put them on.

[ALTERED4]

while on the subject, i had a question on the he's... ive got ha's on my prelude, and after 3 years they look beat up... some of the green paint has chipped, and they now have plenty of rust on the shock body and some on the threads... are the he's build similar? are the threads treated? any problems with paint chipping and rust?

[HaLo]

Originally posted by Yoshi
Don't take your GC's/AGX apart, all the mount stuff goes together on those, if you keep the mounts, your buyer would need all new parts from GC (as well as a bunch of stock stuff) just to put them on.

thanks!!!

(I was the buyer! )

[adey]

Originally posted by ALTERED4
are the he's build similar? are the threads treated? any problems with paint chipping and rust?

Apparently, HAs just had it bad. The shock body was painted green, while the HEs were anodized (yellow) and made of aluminium, I believe... making rust a non-issue...

Rusting on the threads may not be a surprise, depending on where you are, but still -- that sounds pretty ****. I would go ahead and fare a guess that you're not the only one having these problems with HAs.
Just looking at HAs vs. HEs though, the HEs appear to be put together a little better.