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jakethesnake · 02-27-2009, 05:05 PM

I was thinking about getting bigger cams maybe like a 264 lift nothing crazy, i was jsut wondering if i should get my car tuned if do upgrade??

Ive searched and some people said yes and some said it would be a waste of money to retune the ecu

Also, what cams are you guys running?? Let me know if you liked a specific cam thats a stage 1 or 2

Def · 02-27-2009, 05:06 PM

Yes. I had a very big change in where I was on the maps going from stock to HKS Step 1 264's.

ka-t_180sx · 02-27-2009, 05:37 PM

so worth it....do it

Jung918 · 02-27-2009, 05:49 PM

If you want to take advantage of the cams, you should retune.

mxsx25 · 02-27-2009, 05:52 PM

dido w. what was said above... as with any modification to your engine, a re-tune will bring out its true potential... 264's is a great choice and you will deffinately notice them

jakethesnake · 02-28-2009, 06:40 PM

so you guys are saying i should retune or it will be fine without a retune

Azian · 02-28-2009, 06:44 PM

Yes retune!!!

mxexux · 02-28-2009, 06:54 PM

If you want to do it cheaper get an AFC.

design240sx · 02-28-2009, 07:15 PM

AFC works but not the greatest. get it retune.

bejota180sx · 02-28-2009, 07:22 PM

i think a retune and cam gears will help you get everything out of the cams you choose... but you don't really NEED it unless they are insane cams but yet it is best and you make more of the cams with a retune and cam gears... if you go with Brian crower cams ive read you can never get them perfectly on time without adjustable cam gears... i don't know about other companies... there was a thread on this recently it should appear in the first if you search i think

jakethesnake · 03-01-2009, 11:19 AM

I dont want to go cheap, i was thinking about greddy or HKS tho, and only like a 264 lift nothing major...

The reson why i posted this is because i have money for cams but not to retune it, i live in Michigan and there isnt really any good shops for me to get it tuned at..

design240sx · 03-01-2009, 11:38 AM

hey jake you can go to talk to laka with his buddy. he does good tuning.

jakethesnake · 03-01-2009, 11:53 AM

oh that great, i didnt know he did that, do you know how much he charges

D.Bo · 03-01-2009, 12:39 PM

not to thread jack but im also gettin cams is it cool to drive it for a bit before i get a tune?

djcobra · 03-01-2009, 12:49 PM

I'd personally stick with HKS, Tomie, TODA or GReddy cams. They've put alot of R&D into their products. Then again i've seen other cams do just as well. In my current setup i have HKS Step 2 cams installed 256in and 264ex but with a higher lift. This requires you to install the Step 2 Valve springs etc...

I assume that your wanting to install HKS Step 1's? which doesn't require valve spring upgrade. However, i would not recommend driving around without a retune, last thing you want is something going bang/boom. Do it right the first time and just be patient.

Steve.

jakethesnake · 03-01-2009, 02:14 PM

thanks alot for your help... I guess ill need to wait a little before i get some cams, ive been looking at HKS and WOW they are expencive

design240sx · 03-01-2009, 02:21 PM

hey jake i got HKS 272 stg 3.

02-27-2009, 05:05 PM	#1
jakethesnake Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	getting cams do i need to retune I was thinking about getting bigger cams maybe like a 264 lift nothing crazy, i was jsut wondering if i should get my car tuned if do upgrade?? Ive searched and some people said yes and some said it would be a waste of money to retune the ecu Also, what cams are you guys running?? Let me know if you liked a specific cam thats a stage 1 or 2

02-27-2009, 05:49 PM	#4
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	If you want to take advantage of the cams, you should retune. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

02-27-2009, 05:52 PM	#5
mxsx25 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: hudson NH Age: 36 Posts: 415 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dido w. what was said above... as with any modification to your engine, a re-tune will bring out its true potential... 264's is a great choice and you will deffinately notice them __________________

02-28-2009, 07:15 PM	#9
design240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: somewhere in MI Age: 38 Posts: 704 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	AFC works but not the greatest. get it retune. __________________ In the Zone...

03-01-2009, 11:38 AM	#12
design240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: somewhere in MI Age: 38 Posts: 704 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	hey jake you can go to talk to laka with his buddy. he does good tuning. __________________ In the Zone...

02-27-2009, 05:06 PM	#2
Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Yes. I had a very big change in where I was on the maps going from stock to HKS Step 1 264's.

02-27-2009, 05:37 PM	#3
ka-t_180sx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: mission viejo Age: 38 Posts: 385 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	so worth it....do it

02-28-2009, 06:40 PM	#6
jakethesnake Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so you guys are saying i should retune or it will be fine without a retune

02-28-2009, 06:44 PM	#7
Azian Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CA Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes retune!!!

02-28-2009, 06:54 PM	#8
mxexux Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SoCal 949 Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	If you want to do it cheaper get an AFC.

03-01-2009, 11:19 AM	#11
jakethesnake Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dont want to go cheap, i was thinking about greddy or HKS tho, and only like a 264 lift nothing major... The reson why i posted this is because i have money for cams but not to retune it, i live in Michigan and there isnt really any good shops for me to get it tuned at..

03-01-2009, 11:53 AM	#13
jakethesnake Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh that great, i didnt know he did that, do you know how much he charges

03-01-2009, 12:39 PM	#14
D.Bo Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Orleans Age: 36 Posts: 284 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not to thread jack but im also gettin cams is it cool to drive it for a bit before i get a tune?

03-01-2009, 12:49 PM	#15
djcobra Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Calgary Age: 46 Posts: 306 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'd personally stick with HKS, Tomie, TODA or GReddy cams. They've put alot of R&D into their products. Then again i've seen other cams do just as well. In my current setup i have HKS Step 2 cams installed 256in and 264ex but with a higher lift. This requires you to install the Step 2 Valve springs etc... I assume that your wanting to install HKS Step 1's? which doesn't require valve spring upgrade. However, i would not recommend driving around without a retune, last thing you want is something going bang/boom. Do it right the first time and just be patient. Steve. __________________ S14 326 whp, 311 tq @ 15 psi HKS F-CON V-PRO

03-01-2009, 02:14 PM	#16
jakethesnake Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks alot for your help... I guess ill need to wait a little before i get some cams, ive been looking at HKS and WOW they are expencive

03-01-2009, 02:21 PM	#17
design240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: somewhere in MI Age: 38 Posts: 704 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	hey jake i got HKS 272 stg 3. __________________ In the Zone...