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bl3ujay07 · 07-20-2009, 07:34 PM

Hey guys, long story short, i let my brother drive my car, 89 hatch with sr swap from Stockton (norcal) to LA, (camarillo to be exact) with his gf and her sister.

First, on their way, before they hit the grapevines, my brother said that he heard a loud sound under the car. He pulled over and found that the bottom radiator hose that connects to block cam off because the clamp (old ones) was loose and lost all the coolant. I had screw drivers and everything in my car so he re connected and poured water a 1 gallon bottle water (i assume just water because thats all i saw him bring). Then i didnt hear from him for a while. (i told him to buy new clamps and fill it up with antifreeze and water and check everything before he comes back down. No answer so i dont know if he did or did not.

So, he called me about 2 hours ago. 45-an hour from camrillo towards grapevine, he calls me and tells me my car is dead!!! He tells me he heard some clinking in engine bay, pulled over and checked it out. See some water leaking. Then tries to start the car, cranks but wont start. He says that there is WATER leaking UNDER and BY the crank pulley. He calls me and says "water is leaking from your crank shaft". I dont think so and don beleive so because how the hell can he tell, but what do you think?

Do you guys (and or gals) think the problem is? He says its leaking under and near the crankshat pulley. It cranks but doesnt start. Would a dead/laking water pump or blown front main seal cause this?

Would a blown front main seal leak water??? I am hoping it didnt overheat!!!! HELP ME OUT!!

Bigsyke · 07-20-2009, 07:37 PM

You cant just refill and drive. I blew a hose once, and just filling up the radiator only filled it up maybe 50%, since there were airpockets that were trapped.

You probably blew it....it def over heated if you just fill and drive.

Sileighty_85 · 07-20-2009, 07:38 PM

Its from the water pump, there is a "weep hole" on the bottom of the water pump so when the water pump seal goes out water will "weep" out of it, since the W/P is right above the C/S its probably giving the apperance of water comming from the Crank

as far as the car not starting not sure why that would happen,

if it over heated the H/G more than likely blew, tell him to check the oil's color, if it looks like chocolate milk then the head gasket is blown

Bigsyke · 07-20-2009, 07:39 PM

^^^possibly because the tstat didnt open due to air pocket, and the head warped extremely?

bl3ujay07 · 07-20-2009, 07:40 PM

^^^He says that there is still coolant in the radiator and doesnt seem like any kind of mixing between oil coolant.

Im thinking HE blew the engine, but just want to know for sure before i make a damn 10 hour mission getting the damn car back to stockton.

bl3ujay07 · 07-20-2009, 07:42 PM

Just recently, new nismo thermostat, 2" aluminum radiator, s14 e-fan, and new coolant to make sure my shit dont over heat. It had a cheap metal cometic hg btw.

Bigsyke · 07-20-2009, 07:45 PM

ouch! usually that doesnt help at all, unless you have a swirl tank, even still you need to bleed it if you ever have an opening in the coolant system.

Bro radiator could be full, but if the thermostat doesnt open up the air gets trapped in the front cover- it would seem the radiator is full, but you will never know untill the lower hose and cover gets HOT. Even still unless the radiator cap is off, its only a matter of time the air pockets collect and block the tsat

bl3ujay07 · 07-20-2009, 08:15 PM

^^^Im affraid he either didnt bleed it or worst, didnt even put coolant but just water in it. Damn. Right when someone called to by the damn car too!!! So much for getting my g20.

Sileighty_85 · 07-20-2009, 08:33 PM

yeah if not bled properly it will over heat, Stock temp gauge is worthless you need a aftermarket one,

Why get a G20? its FWD and a SRDE?

bl3ujay07 · 07-20-2009, 08:48 PM

^^^I know its FWD and srde. Spend too much time on the car. Getting me off track and distracting me from school and work. Need something with a/c, automatic, and a bit more "luxurious" at a cheap price.

well my brother just called and said it starts, but it seems like waterpump is out and possibly the steel braided turbo coolant hose???

importdude · 07-20-2009, 08:57 PM

if he did not bleed it and ADDed Cold Coolant to a HOT engine

and proceeded to drive on it
Chances are he overheated it

adding all water is no problem

Cold coolant/water +hot engine= Air bubbles

Might also be a bad broken waterpump

07-20-2009, 07:34 PM	#1
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Leaking WATER(???) from front main seal?? NO START!! HELP Hey guys, long story short, i let my brother drive my car, 89 hatch with sr swap from Stockton (norcal) to LA, (camarillo to be exact) with his gf and her sister. First, on their way, before they hit the grapevines, my brother said that he heard a loud sound under the car. He pulled over and found that the bottom radiator hose that connects to block cam off because the clamp (old ones) was loose and lost all the coolant. I had screw drivers and everything in my car so he re connected and poured water a 1 gallon bottle water (i assume just water because thats all i saw him bring). Then i didnt hear from him for a while. (i told him to buy new clamps and fill it up with antifreeze and water and check everything before he comes back down. No answer so i dont know if he did or did not. So, he called me about 2 hours ago. 45-an hour from camrillo towards grapevine, he calls me and tells me my car is dead!!! He tells me he heard some clinking in engine bay, pulled over and checked it out. See some water leaking. Then tries to start the car, cranks but wont start. He says that there is WATER leaking UNDER and BY the crank pulley. He calls me and says "water is leaking from your crank shaft". I dont think so and don beleive so because how the hell can he tell, but what do you think? Do you guys (and or gals) think the problem is? He says its leaking under and near the crankshat pulley. It cranks but doesnt start. Would a dead/laking water pump or blown front main seal cause this? Would a blown front main seal leak water??? I am hoping it didnt overheat!!!! HELP ME OUT!!

07-20-2009, 07:38 PM	#3
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Its from the water pump, there is a "weep hole" on the bottom of the water pump so when the water pump seal goes out water will "weep" out of it, since the W/P is right above the C/S its probably giving the apperance of water comming from the Crank as far as the car not starting not sure why that would happen, if it over heated the H/G more than likely blew, tell him to check the oil's color, if it looks like chocolate milk then the head gasket is blown __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

07-20-2009, 08:33 PM	#9
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	yeah if not bled properly it will over heat, Stock temp gauge is worthless you need a aftermarket one, Why get a G20? its FWD and a SRDE? __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

07-20-2009, 08:57 PM	#11
importdude Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: san j0 Posts: 1,391 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	if he did not bleed it and ADDed Cold Coolant to a HOT engine and proceeded to drive on it Chances are he overheated it adding all water is no problem Cold coolant/water +hot engine= Air bubbles Might also be a bad broken waterpump __________________ built ka-t

07-20-2009, 07:37 PM	#2
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You cant just refill and drive. I blew a hose once, and just filling up the radiator only filled it up maybe 50%, since there were airpockets that were trapped. You probably blew it....it def over heated if you just fill and drive.

07-20-2009, 07:39 PM	#4
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^possibly because the tstat didnt open due to air pocket, and the head warped extremely?

07-20-2009, 07:40 PM	#5
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^^He says that there is still coolant in the radiator and doesnt seem like any kind of mixing between oil coolant. Im thinking HE blew the engine, but just want to know for sure before i make a damn 10 hour mission getting the damn car back to stockton.

07-20-2009, 07:42 PM	#6
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Just recently, new nismo thermostat, 2" aluminum radiator, s14 e-fan, and new coolant to make sure my shit dont over heat. It had a cheap metal cometic hg btw.

07-20-2009, 07:45 PM	#7
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ouch! usually that doesnt help at all, unless you have a swirl tank, even still you need to bleed it if you ever have an opening in the coolant system. Bro radiator could be full, but if the thermostat doesnt open up the air gets trapped in the front cover- it would seem the radiator is full, but you will never know untill the lower hose and cover gets HOT. Even still unless the radiator cap is off, its only a matter of time the air pockets collect and block the tsat

07-20-2009, 08:15 PM	#8
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^^Im affraid he either didnt bleed it or worst, didnt even put coolant but just water in it. Damn. Right when someone called to by the damn car too!!! So much for getting my g20.

07-20-2009, 08:48 PM	#10
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^^I know its FWD and srde. Spend too much time on the car. Getting me off track and distracting me from school and work. Need something with a/c, automatic, and a bit more "luxurious" at a cheap price. well my brother just called and said it starts, but it seems like waterpump is out and possibly the steel braided turbo coolant hose???