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veil_side_ · 06-06-2003, 03:42 PM

I have a '92 coupe, red, and my paint is fading. I don't know if there is anything that I can do about it but this is the second 240sx I've had and it is annoying the crap out of me. The paint seems to fade in some areas giving way to an ugly white. I don't know if polish would work or what.

. I've read that you can take 2000 grit wet sandpaper and just brush off the top layers of paint revealing the glossy layer underneath but I'm a bit skeptical on this. Anyone who have any tips? I'm thinking getting a paint job as a last resort but then again, thats a last resort.

Thanks.

Bill Roberts · 06-06-2003, 04:19 PM

Red is the Worst.

Rubbing compound may leave some swirl that are not going to be removable. I would simply wax the crap out of it by hand. Wax on, Wax off (LOL) If you get it looking really tight, then take dishwashing detergent and remove all of the wax...I mean every bit of it...overkill, like 10 washes.

Then go to the body shop and have it clearcoated. I know a guy that did this and his paint is holding up really well now...but ultimately, to have your car sanded down, repainted properly, about a 700 dollar job and your problems will be solved.

You will find that a good grade of wax will remove so much of the dead red paint that you will need many applicators to do this. I would get 3 rolls of the blue shop towels (paper) and prepare for some sore arms.

A buffer would be much better but the applicators are not cheap and you would go through a bunch of them....AND, an inexperienced person behind a power buffer can do much more harm than good.

I feel for you but wax the stuffings out of it and see what you have.

The reason to wash with dishwashing detergent after you get it right IF you are going to have it clear coated is that no paint will stick to wax...clearcoat will not stick...it will bubble up and orange peel galore.

If you really love your car, get a car cover for the times it is sitting in the sun.

240 2NR · 06-06-2003, 05:12 PM

Buffing and polishing only works if there is still paint there to work with. Ususally when it gets white (as I've seen) there isn't really any paint left. If it's just one panel I'd head for a junk yard and get one in better condition, otherwise prep it to be painted. If you remove the panel and do the prep work yourself, just dropping off the panel to be sprayed is not terribly expensive.

If the paint is good and just faded, I would suggest a good wash (with a nice wash mitt, not just a power spray to actually pick up the grit off the paint) then clay bar it, follwed by hand polish, and a good carnuba wax. After seeing how much grit comes up on what I thought was a clean car, I would avoid going straight to a polish after washing the car as the grit in your paint is likely to be far more abrasive than the particles in a fine hand polish.

SilviaDriver · 06-06-2003, 06:44 PM

Bill Roberts Red ownz j00z!! haha jk

i noticed the way u type. u type out like 2 setences paragraphs. then have two enter spaces and u do it again hahha nice and cleaann post HAHAHAH.

dont leave ur car in the sun. wax it to protect the paint.

Bill Roberts · 06-06-2003, 07:15 PM

Ja SD!

Gives them a chance to sit, take a drag off the cig or swig of brewski and think about that paragraph, then move on to the next. Kinda like small chapters of a dirty novel!

Don't think I am not having a few cigs or beers...LOL

Ck this out though....

It irritates the crap out of me to go up to someone and ask a question, and their immediate response is to repeat my whole @@#$%^& question back to me and sit there and look like a dumb $hit.

I do not need to hear my friggin question over, I want a response!

I hear it all the time, especially in question and answer classes. Just answer the F U C K I N G question????????

LOL, Having fun yet?

I hope your response is not.....uh...uh having fun yet.....uh uh uh....lets see uh uh

Retarded big time. As they said on Animal house.. OUT with it! (puke) LOL

Defy · 06-06-2003, 10:47 PM

i have a greenish 95 that i just got and the roof,hood and deck lid are all dull but the side shine?? so i guess the sun got it but what is weird i wax it and as im waxing it the white rag turns green and the car still doens't shine? am i just a retard and can't wax?

RedlineRacer · 06-07-2003, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Roberts
Red is the Worst.

Rubbing compound may leave some swirl that are not going to be removable. I would simply wax the crap out of it by hand. Wax on, Wax off (LOL) If you get it looking really tight, then take dishwashing detergent and remove all of the wax...I mean every bit of it...overkill, like 10 washes.

Then go to the body shop and have it clearcoated. I know a guy that did this and his paint is holding up really well now...but ultimately, to have your car sanded down, repainted properly, about a 700 dollar job and your problems will be solved.

You will find that a good grade of wax will remove so much of the dead red paint that you will need many applicators to do this. I would get 3 rolls of the blue shop towels (paper) and prepare for some sore arms.

A buffer would be much better but the applicators are not cheap and you would go through a bunch of them....AND, an inexperienced person behind a power buffer can do much more harm than good.

I feel for you but wax the stuffings out of it and see what you have.

The reason to wash with dishwashing detergent after you get it right IF you are going to have it clear coated is that no paint will stick to wax...clearcoat will not stick...it will bubble up and orange peel galore.

If you really love your car, get a car cover for the times it is sitting in the sun.

For that much work you might as well get a decent paint job because it will never look very good by doing that. You only have so many layers of paint to polish.

Phantom · 06-07-2003, 07:27 PM

My suggestion is to go ahead and have it painted because when your car paint fades there is no saving it. When you have it painted be sure there is no orange peel etc. and have two coats of clear put on.
With this just be sure to keep your car out of the sun and covered if it is. Also make sure there are no chemicals or fumes that come around your car because sometimes this can make paint flake or fade.

But with the two coats of clear on it you should'nt have any more problems asuming you get your car painted.

06-06-2003, 03:42 PM	#1
veil_side_ Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Arlington TX Posts: 56 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Paint problems: Fading I have a '92 coupe, red, and my paint is fading. I don't know if there is anything that I can do about it but this is the second 240sx I've had and it is annoying the crap out of me. The paint seems to fade in some areas giving way to an ugly white. I don't know if polish would work or what. . I've read that you can take 2000 grit wet sandpaper and just brush off the top layers of paint revealing the glossy layer underneath but I'm a bit skeptical on this. Anyone who have any tips? I'm thinking getting a paint job as a last resort but then again, thats a last resort. Thanks. __________________ VeilSide? i've never bought anything from them and never will!

06-06-2003, 05:12 PM	#3
240 2NR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Buffing and polishing only works if there is still paint there to work with. Ususally when it gets white (as I've seen) there isn't really any paint left. If it's just one panel I'd head for a junk yard and get one in better condition, otherwise prep it to be painted. If you remove the panel and do the prep work yourself, just dropping off the panel to be sprayed is not terribly expensive. If the paint is good and just faded, I would suggest a good wash (with a nice wash mitt, not just a power spray to actually pick up the grit off the paint) then clay bar it, follwed by hand polish, and a good carnuba wax. After seeing how much grit comes up on what I thought was a clean car, I would avoid going straight to a polish after washing the car as the grit in your paint is likely to be far more abrasive than the particles in a fine hand polish. __________________ Steve 93 240sx FB currently very clean and for sale

06-06-2003, 10:47 PM	#6
Defy Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Colorado USAFA Age: 42 Posts: 118 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	me too i have a greenish 95 that i just got and the roof,hood and deck lid are all dull but the side shine?? so i guess the sun got it but what is weird i wax it and as im waxing it the white rag turns green and the car still doens't shine? am i just a retard and can't wax?

06-06-2003, 04:19 PM	#2
Bill Roberts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: S FL. Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Red is the Worst. Rubbing compound may leave some swirl that are not going to be removable. I would simply wax the crap out of it by hand. Wax on, Wax off (LOL) If you get it looking really tight, then take dishwashing detergent and remove all of the wax...I mean every bit of it...overkill, like 10 washes. Then go to the body shop and have it clearcoated. I know a guy that did this and his paint is holding up really well now...but ultimately, to have your car sanded down, repainted properly, about a 700 dollar job and your problems will be solved. You will find that a good grade of wax will remove so much of the dead red paint that you will need many applicators to do this. I would get 3 rolls of the blue shop towels (paper) and prepare for some sore arms. A buffer would be much better but the applicators are not cheap and you would go through a bunch of them....AND, an inexperienced person behind a power buffer can do much more harm than good. I feel for you but wax the stuffings out of it and see what you have. The reason to wash with dishwashing detergent after you get it right IF you are going to have it clear coated is that no paint will stick to wax...clearcoat will not stick...it will bubble up and orange peel galore. If you really love your car, get a car cover for the times it is sitting in the sun.

06-06-2003, 06:44 PM	#4
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Bill Roberts Red ownz j00z!! haha jk i noticed the way u type. u type out like 2 setences paragraphs. then have two enter spaces and u do it again hahha nice and cleaann post HAHAHAH. dont leave ur car in the sun. wax it to protect the paint.

06-06-2003, 07:15 PM	#5
Bill Roberts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: S FL. Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ja SD! Gives them a chance to sit, take a drag off the cig or swig of brewski and think about that paragraph, then move on to the next. Kinda like small chapters of a dirty novel! Don't think I am not having a few cigs or beers...LOL Ck this out though.... It irritates the crap out of me to go up to someone and ask a question, and their immediate response is to repeat my whole @@#$%^& question back to me and sit there and look like a dumb $hit. I do not need to hear my friggin question over, I want a response! I hear it all the time, especially in question and answer classes. Just answer the F U C K I N G question???????? LOL, Having fun yet? I hope your response is not.....uh...uh having fun yet.....uh uh uh....lets see uh uh Retarded big time. As they said on Animal house.. OUT with it! (puke) LOL

06-07-2003, 07:27 PM	#8
Phantom Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Valrico FL Age: 38 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My suggestion is to go ahead and have it painted because when your car paint fades there is no saving it. When you have it painted be sure there is no orange peel etc. and have two coats of clear put on. With this just be sure to keep your car out of the sun and covered if it is. Also make sure there are no chemicals or fumes that come around your car because sometimes this can make paint flake or fade. But with the two coats of clear on it you should'nt have any more problems asuming you get your car painted.