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DRFT · 12-16-2003, 04:12 PM

Like the title says,my car wont start for some reason.

a little recap of what happened today:

woke up and went to the junk yard to find a spoilerless hatch, found one but had a big dent on one side so i said screw it. picked up a black steering panel that goes under the dash (ned it because im swapping from blue to black interior). So got to my cousins house and put it on. Then after when i was leaving the car started to have problems. STarted up a few times but had idle paly and died. Did it a few more times and kept on dieing. Then left my car over there to go to work.
later went back and tried to jump start it with my bros car and nothing. now it doesn't start but it clicks and turnsover.

so what the hell is going on?

S13Grl · 12-16-2003, 07:59 PM

Did you mess with any of the wires? Maybe something to do with the light down there.

DRFT · 12-16-2003, 10:20 PM

Thats what im guessing right now. Cause when i was taking my old panel off it snagged on something so i took it off slowy and proceeded on the replacing the panel with my new one. I gotta check it out tomorrow. BTW do you or anyone haev a FSM diagram of the wiring around the fuse box area?

Thnaks btw s13grl

jean-seb · 12-17-2003, 07:46 AM

hi i have the wiring diagram and inspect well your wire.

jean-seb · 12-17-2003, 07:47 AM

jean-seb · 12-17-2003, 07:48 AM

mistaanime · 12-17-2003, 10:26 AM

wow..pretty good findin that wire diagram..I think we trying to change his spark plugs today..see if that mite be the problem..we tried crankin it a couple of time and it now juss clicks...no more crank..Im guessin bad battery..but..lights go on and eveything..oh well see wut happens later today..

MonkeyMagic · 12-17-2003, 10:38 AM

Ok yea, my situation is more retarded. I pull my car in to the garage and jack it up to change out the supsension, last side I did was the front right side by where the battery is. Finish installing the suspension and put the car back down. Tried to start it and doesn't turn on anymore. Tried push starting it and nothing. Did not touch any wire or anything. Talk about bad luck. Any suggestions?

mistaanime · 12-17-2003, 10:43 AM

wtf...heh man thats weird...wut year 240 you drive?

DRFT · 12-17-2003, 12:28 PM

How am i supposed to read that?heh...o well gotta print it out and see what i can find out about it.

MonkeyMagic · 12-17-2003, 12:39 PM

Yea tell me about it. Its a 90' coupe. Its freaking driving me crazy!

DRFT · 12-18-2003, 09:57 PM

Just checked up on my car today and it seems like the wiring looks fine. but i dont hear my fuel pump going on. i checked my fuel pump fuse and it looks fine. Could it be my fuel pump?

revVV_PSHHH · 12-19-2003, 02:26 AM

hi guys, decided to join the conversaion since im having the same problem but in my case i havent thouched anything. I have been away for the past 2 months and the last time i checked my car turned on fine. Now when i turn the key it doesnt even make a noise and my boost controller flickers, but my other electronics seem ok...sugguestions?

95 SR

S13Grl · 12-19-2003, 07:34 AM

Rev, try charging/changing your battery. It'll do that when it sits.

DRFT, did you check your fuel pump relay?

*sykikchimp* · 12-19-2003, 08:11 AM

definately could be the fuel pump.

remember.. there are only 3 things that are necessary to make a car run.

Fuel
Fire
air

Figure out which one your missing, and you'll fix the problem.

DRFT · 12-19-2003, 11:31 AM

s13grl, im going to check the fuel pump relay today. i jsut read in the other post about it.

DRFT · 12-20-2003, 08:08 PM

Didn't get a chance to check out ym relay cause ti was raining and my car wasn't in the garage. but anyways what if it is my relay that went bad? do i jsut go to the dealer and get a enw one? and do i just check it with a volt meter?

DRFT · 12-22-2003, 09:57 PM

bump, bump bump it up!

DRFT · 12-23-2003, 05:57 PM

ok just found out that it wasn't the relay. So should i shoot for a new fuel pump next?

DRFT · 12-24-2003, 01:07 PM

hmm....seems like no one cares...but anywho i tihnk someone will read this.

So i the relay wasn't the problem. I took out my fuel pump today to have it checked by kragen. But they won't test fuel pumps, only batteries and starters. SO the counter guy tell em to hook up my fuel pump to a power source to test if it winds (spins).

So i get home and do just that. So i get some wires plug it into the power source and the fuel pump. So i power it up, after a few seconds of winding it jsut goes flat. And it winds very slow. So i think my best bet would be a faulty fuel pump.

what are youguy's opinions on this? a bad fuel pump?

Zing · 12-24-2003, 03:57 PM

DRFT

how did u figure out it wasn't the starter relay's problem ?
I started to suspect my fuel pump as well ... coz I can't push started it even up to 30 mph ...

how did u pull out your fuel pump ?
did u ever try push starting it ?

Zing

toreno · 12-24-2003, 04:12 PM

^ he has an Auto, i dont think you can push start an auto

DRFT · 12-24-2003, 04:12 PM

I boguht a new fuel pump relay.

I went to the back of the car and unscrewed the cover, and unscrewed the fuel pump out. but beware it gets really stinky.

you can push start a automatic?

btw you get your car running?

EDIT: Do you mean fuel pump relay or starter relay? if starter relay, where is that located?

Zing · 12-24-2003, 06:49 PM

I still can't start my car yet
I try push start, even up to 30 mph, when i release the clutch, the whole car just came to a full stop ...

really have no idea what is going on ...

I believe the starter relay is inside the fuse Box ... am i correct ?

DRFT · 12-24-2003, 07:27 PM

havent gotten a good chance to really work on the car since its X mas time.

I was bored and hooked the fuel pump back up to the power source and now the pump works. Don't know what really is going on!!!

Maybe i should check the starter relay too.

What else solutions have you heard about this problem that we have?

Zing · 12-24-2003, 08:03 PM

my frd said maybe i am not getting spark and ask me to test the spark plug if they are igniting ...

and someone said it might be just some wore out cable .

Var · 12-24-2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DRFT
after a few seconds of winding it jsut goes flat. And it winds very slow. So i think my best bet would be a faulty fuel pump.

what are youguy's opinions on this? a bad fuel pump?

Ya change the fuel pump.

DRFT · 12-26-2003, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DRFT

I was bored and hooked the fuel pump back up to the power source and now the pump works. Don't know what really is going on!!!

sighh...what a way for ym car to spend the holidays....

MonkeyMagic · 12-26-2003, 08:13 AM

Ok I had the same problem, I pulled out the old pump and tested it with the car's battery and it spun. We put it back on and it spun but didn't seem to be spinning quick enough. So i'm guessing the best alternative is to change it out for a new one and hope it works.

TheSparo · 12-26-2003, 11:17 AM

if it were me, i would rather just take it to a shop and have them find the problem, instead of buying a new pump, which may not even be the problem..

12-16-2003, 04:12 PM	#1
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	car wont start...help! Like the title says,my car wont start for some reason. a little recap of what happened today: woke up and went to the junk yard to find a spoilerless hatch, found one but had a big dent on one side so i said screw it. picked up a black steering panel that goes under the dash (ned it because im swapping from blue to black interior). So got to my cousins house and put it on. Then after when i was leaving the car started to have problems. STarted up a few times but had idle paly and died. Did it a few more times and kept on dieing. Then left my car over there to go to work. later went back and tried to jump start it with my bros car and nothing. now it doesn't start but it clicks and turnsover. so what the hell is going on? __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-16-2003, 10:20 PM	#3
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats what im guessing right now. Cause when i was taking my old panel off it snagged on something so i took it off slowy and proceeded on the replacing the panel with my new one. I gotta check it out tomorrow. BTW do you or anyone haev a FSM diagram of the wiring around the fuse box area? Thnaks btw s13grl __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-17-2003, 10:26 AM	#7
mistaanime Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nine -1- Six Posts: 1,934 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow..pretty good findin that wire diagram..I think we trying to change his spark plugs today..see if that mite be the problem..we tried crankin it a couple of time and it now juss clicks...no more crank..Im guessin bad battery..but..lights go on and eveything..oh well see wut happens later today.. __________________ -Cherry Red 91 Silfourty-

12-17-2003, 10:43 AM	#9
mistaanime Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nine -1- Six Posts: 1,934 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wtf...heh man thats weird...wut year 240 you drive? __________________ -Cherry Red 91 Silfourty-

12-17-2003, 12:28 PM	#10
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How am i supposed to read that?heh...o well gotta print it out and see what i can find out about it. __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-16-2003, 07:59 PM	#2
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did you mess with any of the wires? Maybe something to do with the light down there.

12-17-2003, 10:38 AM	#8
MonkeyMagic Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miami, Fl. Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok yea, my situation is more retarded. I pull my car in to the garage and jack it up to change out the supsension, last side I did was the front right side by where the battery is. Finish installing the suspension and put the car back down. Tried to start it and doesn't turn on anymore. Tried push starting it and nothing. Did not touch any wire or anything. Talk about bad luck. Any suggestions?

12-17-2003, 12:39 PM	#11
MonkeyMagic Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miami, Fl. Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea tell me about it. Its a 90' coupe. Its freaking driving me crazy!

12-18-2003, 09:57 PM	#12
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just checked up on my car today and it seems like the wiring looks fine. but i dont hear my fuel pump going on. i checked my fuel pump fuse and it looks fine. Could it be my fuel pump? __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-19-2003, 02:26 AM	#13
revVV_PSHHH Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: CA Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hi guys, decided to join the conversaion since im having the same problem but in my case i havent thouched anything. I have been away for the past 2 months and the last time i checked my car turned on fine. Now when i turn the key it doesnt even make a noise and my boost controller flickers, but my other electronics seem ok...sugguestions? 95 SR

12-19-2003, 07:34 AM	#14
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Rev, try charging/changing your battery. It'll do that when it sits. DRFT, did you check your fuel pump relay?

12-19-2003, 08:11 AM	#15
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	definately could be the fuel pump. remember.. there are only 3 things that are necessary to make a car run. Fuel Fire air Figure out which one your missing, and you'll fix the problem. __________________

12-19-2003, 11:31 AM	#16
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s13grl, im going to check the fuel pump relay today. i jsut read in the other post about it. __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-20-2003, 08:08 PM	#17
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Didn't get a chance to check out ym relay cause ti was raining and my car wasn't in the garage. but anyways what if it is my relay that went bad? do i jsut go to the dealer and get a enw one? and do i just check it with a volt meter? __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-22-2003, 09:57 PM	#18
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bump, bump bump it up! __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-23-2003, 05:57 PM	#19
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok just found out that it wasn't the relay. So should i shoot for a new fuel pump next? __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-24-2003, 01:07 PM	#20
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmm....seems like no one cares...but anywho i tihnk someone will read this. So i the relay wasn't the problem. I took out my fuel pump today to have it checked by kragen. But they won't test fuel pumps, only batteries and starters. SO the counter guy tell em to hook up my fuel pump to a power source to test if it winds (spins). So i get home and do just that. So i get some wires plug it into the power source and the fuel pump. So i power it up, after a few seconds of winding it jsut goes flat. And it winds very slow. So i think my best bet would be a faulty fuel pump. what are youguy's opinions on this? a bad fuel pump? __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-24-2003, 03:57 PM	#21
Zing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MI Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	DRFT how did u figure out it wasn't the starter relay's problem ? I started to suspect my fuel pump as well ... coz I can't push started it even up to 30 mph ... how did u pull out your fuel pump ? did u ever try push starting it ? Zing

12-24-2003, 04:12 PM	#22
toreno Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: V-A Baby -believe that!!! Age: 40 Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ he has an Auto, i dont think you can push start an auto

12-24-2003, 06:49 PM	#24
Zing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MI Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I still can't start my car yet I try push start, even up to 30 mph, when i release the clutch, the whole car just came to a full stop ... really have no idea what is going on ... I believe the starter relay is inside the fuse Box ... am i correct ?

12-24-2003, 07:27 PM	#25
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	havent gotten a good chance to really work on the car since its X mas time. I was bored and hooked the fuel pump back up to the power source and now the pump works. Don't know what really is going on!!! Maybe i should check the starter relay too. What else solutions have you heard about this problem that we have? __________________ ApexNetwork.Net Sacramento & Norcal Forum

12-24-2003, 08:03 PM	#26
Zing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MI Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my frd said maybe i am not getting spark and ask me to test the spark plug if they are igniting ... and someone said it might be just some wore out cable .

12-26-2003, 08:13 AM	#29
MonkeyMagic Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miami, Fl. Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok I had the same problem, I pulled out the old pump and tested it with the car's battery and it spun. We put it back on and it spun but didn't seem to be spinning quick enough. So i'm guessing the best alternative is to change it out for a new one and hope it works.

12-26-2003, 11:17 AM	#30
TheSparo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Athens/Chattanooga/ Cookeville/Morristown, TN Age: 39 Posts: 1,141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if it were me, i would rather just take it to a shop and have them find the problem, instead of buying a new pump, which may not even be the problem.. __________________ 89 240 SR powered... ummm i promise its stock