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Just8aV8 · 02-25-2004, 05:07 PM

i'm currently in the market for new brake pads and a local shop suggested that i go with endless cc-x, i was wondering how these pads hold up, or how long can i expect to run them? how do these pads stack up to others.. such as project mu titan-kai? the car is mostly a daily driver, with a few auto-x days, and fast canyon drives on occasion. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Flybert · 02-25-2004, 07:10 PM

Fuck japanese pads. Way overpriced. Plenty of domestic brands that work just as well. Look into Porterfield Racing or Hawk.

kanekz · 02-25-2004, 07:36 PM

KVR is working pretty good for me too! Yes, jdm pads are pricey. The shop probably wants more money out of your pockets

Just8aV8 · 02-25-2004, 09:36 PM

actually the guy who recommended them runs them on his itr, which he has auto-x'd at every event he could for the past 2 seasons. he's had absolutely no complaints and has had them for over 3 years w/o hitting wear indicators.

how would the hawk hp plus compare to either the project mu titan kai or the endless cc-x? would the hawk hp plus have similar wear characteristics and stopping power as the endless cc-x?

MorganS13 · 02-25-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Just8aV8

actually the guy who recommended them runs them on his itr, which he has auto-x'd at every event he could for the past 2 seasons. he's had absolutely no complaints and has had them for over 3 years w/o hitting wear indicators.

He's had the same brake pads for 3 years WITH 2 seasons of auto-x?? something doesn't quite add up..

Just8aV8 · 02-25-2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MorganS13

He's had the same brake pads for 3 years WITH 2 seasons of auto-x?? something doesn't quite add up..

yes, he's had the same brake pads for 3 years w/ 2 seasons of auto-x.... can we get back to if the hawk hp plus will even compare to the cc-x? from the info i've been looking at the endless pads seem to be a higher quality product, but correct me if i'm wrong.

D1drifter · 02-25-2004, 09:46 PM

Yeah, KVR is working for me as well, although some warmup time is needed inorder for them to grab.

orange-grey · 02-25-2004, 10:27 PM

I rather liked my KVR's. Porterfields work, but their casting is way too sloppy. I had to file the ridges off before I could install them, which is stoopid. Never tried Hawk. The JDM brands might be slightly better, but definately not enough to justify the price.

Baka Sama · 02-26-2004, 12:57 PM

Hope this helps... Try not to be so defensive when asking other people for help.
http://www.mrtrally.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-32828.html

Just8aV8 · 02-26-2004, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Baka Sama

Hope this helps... Try not to be so defensive when asking other people for help.
http://www.mrtrally.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-32828.html

thank you, thats all i needed. the only point i was trying to make is people were trying to give me advice on educated guesses rather then actual experience on how the pads would perform.

and just to make this clear, the shop also told me about hawk, performance friction, axxis, ebc, and project mu. but said that if i planned to keep the car for a while that the endless pads would be the best bet as i wouldnt need to replace brake pads as often as i would with the other pads. they were unclear on how long they would last and thats why i posted my initial question.

JagdStealth · 02-27-2004, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Just8aV8

thank you, thats all i needed. the only point i was trying to make is people were trying to give me advice on educated guesses rather then actual experience on how the pads would perform.

Some of us have raced/competed in AutoX or on actual tracks and some of us have used actual race pads. Anyone who has, knows that any *good* race pad will not last for 3 years of street driving and 2 full seasons of AutoX. A good street pad might, but not a good race pad.

I never said Endless was bad, but their cost is extremely high and the pad your friend uses is obviously a good street compound. I'm sure they are excellent, but for the cost of those Endless pads I can almost buy 3 sets of other pads.

I don't care about being "JDM" I drive a friggin silvia conversion for crying out loud

Replicant_S14 · 02-27-2004, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Baka Sama

Hope this helps... Try not to be so defensive when asking other people for help.

...and keep in mind that this forum is an archive of info for other owners. You're subject line says: "brake pad help" not "help me rationalize buying endless brake pads".

Just8aV8 · 02-27-2004, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Replicant_S14

...and keep in mind that this forum is an archive of info for other owners. You're subject line says: "brake pad help" not "help me rationalize buying endless brake pads".

i still think you fail to see the point, i asked for help with wear rates, not your personal opinion on whether or not the pads are overpriced. price wasnt really the issue here, i was simply trying to figure out if other pads would wear simlarly to the endless. thanks for your help, i was actually leaning towards the hawk hp plus or blues as the endless cc-x's seem to be really a lot more brake pad then i really need. thanks for all the help anyway!

Replicant_S14 · 02-27-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Just8aV8

i still think you fail to see the point, i asked for help with wear rates, not your personal opinion on whether or not the pads are overpriced.

I never offered my opinion on pads. I have used Hawk HP+s competitively and I do have a strong opinion on those.

Just8aV8 · 02-27-2004, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Replicant_S14

I never offered my opinion on pads. I have used Hawk HP+s competitively and I do have a strong opinion on those.

how do you like the hp+'s? ive heard they can warp rotors under hard breaking. have you had any problems with them?

INeedNewTires · 02-26-2004, 11:41 PM

on the same topic, different brands..... Do any of yall think these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBWA%3AIT&rd=1

are any good? Would you buy them for the price or should i just wait untill i have enough money for the better ones (i know its usually a case of you get what you pay for but i thought id ask)

thx247 · 02-27-2004, 05:37 PM

I think that whatever else that person who told you that hawk brake pads...or any other pad can warp a rotor under hard braking should be taken with a grain of salt.

Natty · 02-27-2004, 07:33 PM

I love my KVRs. Yeah, the make a small bit of noise and they suck when cold, but they don't like stock and brake dust isn't too bad.

OptionZero · 02-27-2004, 07:38 PM

Nobody's mentioned Axxis Metal Masters...are they any good for the street?

02-25-2004, 05:07 PM	#1
Just8aV8 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Utah Age: 43 Posts: 61 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	brake pad help i'm currently in the market for new brake pads and a local shop suggested that i go with endless cc-x, i was wondering how these pads hold up, or how long can i expect to run them? how do these pads stack up to others.. such as project mu titan-kai? the car is mostly a daily driver, with a few auto-x days, and fast canyon drives on occasion. any help would be greatly appreciated.

02-25-2004, 07:36 PM	#3
kanekz Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 802 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	KVR is working pretty good for me too! Yes, jdm pads are pricey. The shop probably wants more money out of your pockets __________________ Blitz!!

02-26-2004, 11:41 PM	#16
INeedNewTires Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,527 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: INeedNewTires Feedback Score: 4 reviews	on the same topic, different brands..... Do any of yall think these http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBWA%3AIT&rd=1 are any good? Would you buy them for the price or should i just wait untill i have enough money for the better ones (i know its usually a case of you get what you pay for but i thought id ask) __________________

02-27-2004, 07:33 PM	#18
Natty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love my KVRs. Yeah, the make a small bit of noise and they suck when cold, but they don't like stock and brake dust isn't too bad. __________________ 1991 White 240sx Fastback LE, rusty spoiler, weak driveshaft, exhaust rattle.... Rattles are just your cars way of saying 'I love you.'

02-25-2004, 07:10 PM	#2
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Fuck japanese pads. Way overpriced. Plenty of domestic brands that work just as well. Look into Porterfield Racing or Hawk.

02-25-2004, 09:36 PM	#4
Just8aV8 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Utah Age: 43 Posts: 61 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	actually the guy who recommended them runs them on his itr, which he has auto-x'd at every event he could for the past 2 seasons. he's had absolutely no complaints and has had them for over 3 years w/o hitting wear indicators. how would the hawk hp plus compare to either the project mu titan kai or the endless cc-x? would the hawk hp plus have similar wear characteristics and stopping power as the endless cc-x?

02-25-2004, 09:46 PM	#7
D1drifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NorCal Posts: 211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, KVR is working for me as well, although some warmup time is needed inorder for them to grab.

02-25-2004, 10:27 PM	#8
orange-grey Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I rather liked my KVR's. Porterfields work, but their casting is way too sloppy. I had to file the ridges off before I could install them, which is stoopid. Never tried Hawk. The JDM brands might be slightly better, but definately not enough to justify the price.

02-26-2004, 12:57 PM	#9
Baka Sama Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Metro Atlanta Age: 41 Posts: 1,130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hope this helps... Try not to be so defensive when asking other people for help. http://www.mrtrally.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36 http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-32828.html

02-27-2004, 05:37 PM	#17
thx247 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: bay area Posts: 1,455 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think that whatever else that person who told you that hawk brake pads...or any other pad can warp a rotor under hard braking should be taken with a grain of salt.

02-27-2004, 07:38 PM	#19
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Nobody's mentioned Axxis Metal Masters...are they any good for the street?