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wootwoot · 09-13-2004, 06:33 PM

i was just wondering if this seemed like a remotely good idea for the price. it seems a little steep to me but all dyno tuning that is necessary and installation of the rom hardware are included.

sr240mike · 09-13-2004, 06:41 PM

Sounds good for actual dyno tuning. JWT charges $600 for just chipping your ecu w/o dyno time. Who's doing the tuning?

kidinthehall · 09-13-2004, 07:31 PM

depends on whos doing the tuning......

wootwoot · 09-13-2004, 07:51 PM

xat racing in tampa. they do an assload of sr20 work but im not sure how much expierence they have with tuning them. i had absolutely no idea jwt cost that much for the chip, yikes!

*Jeff240sx* · 09-14-2004, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot

xat racing in tampa. they do an assload of sr20 work but im not sure how much expierence they have with tuning them. i had absolutely no idea jwt cost that much for the chip, yikes!

I wouldn't take my car to XAT and let them fill up my gas. They're fucking idiots, assholes, out to make a buck, and just plain suck. Really. Their SR swaps are ass, their sr power levels are lame. I hate XAT. One of them told me that my car idled high because my intercooler was too small. It's 30x8x3.5 spearco. Morons.
Another time they told this dumb kid who kept asking me questions "Don't buy a $200 intake. The metal heats up more than the plastic tubing and cancels out any power gains. Just get a $40 generic HKS head filter. And there are no true cold air intakes on the market."
Ahh yes. That injen I had 3 years ago that sucked air like 6" off the ground wasn't cold(er than engine bay). And it's not the temperature that matters when you have a standard intake. It's the quantity and smoothness of the flow. I'm sure it was because they had a 10% margin on the Injen intake, and like a 40% margin on the generic filter.
Seriously. Fuck XAT.
-Jeff

Maxtype 240 · 09-14-2004, 12:05 PM

Damn Jeff, didn't hear those stories. Do have a new crew and new location...
Anyways, for the ROM tuning, I believe Martin is doing them w/ assistance from Scott? If that's not the case, then Martin doesn't have the experience to back a $650 price tag. My .02...

Jesse

xatracing · 10-23-2004, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff240sx

I wouldn't take my car to XAT and let them fill up my gas. They're fucking idiots, assholes, out to make a buck, and just plain suck. Really. Their SR swaps are ass, their sr power levels are lame. I hate XAT. One of them told me that my car idled high because my intercooler was too small. It's 30x8x3.5 spearco. Morons.
Another time they told this dumb kid who kept asking me questions "Don't buy a $200 intake. The metal heats up more than the plastic tubing and cancels out any power gains. Just get a $40 generic HKS head filter. And there are no true cold air intakes on the market."
Ahh yes. That injen I had 3 years ago that sucked air like 6" off the ground wasn't cold(er than engine bay). And it's not the temperature that matters when you have a standard intake. It's the quantity and smoothness of the flow. I'm sure it was because they had a 10% margin on the Injen intake, and like a 40% margin on the generic filter.
Seriously. Fuck XAT.
-Jeff

Jeff,

We have made alot of changes. We have a top notch crew and always take care of our customers. I am not sure when you were here but you bring up this event alot on different forums. If you havent come down in a while I will bet we can change your views. We lose alot of money taking care of problems that may arise, we are not just in it for the money. If you need dyno time for your KA-t let me know. I would just like the opportunity to change your view.

chigga311 · 09-13-2004, 08:04 PM

y dont you save up 350 more and get a Power FC?
You'll still need the dyno time but its like 100 an hour
And you'll be able to do whatever you want

89s132b · 09-13-2004, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chigga311

y dont you save up 350 more and get a Power FC?
You'll still need the dyno time but its like 100 an hour
And you'll be able to do whatever you want

Why? PowerFC is overkill for a lot of set-ups. ROM tunes are great unless you are really wanting to push the limits.

silviasichigo · 09-14-2004, 05:23 AM

POWER FC is not that difficult. first if you get the proper one it has all the basic maps you need to make the car run. I have one in my 14 and one in my 13 they are very simple to tune. If you really want to get down and dirty (this is where things get harry) you can get the data-log it system from austrailia and do some serious tuning. The power FC is a really good ECU and worth the cash all the way. Now to the thread ALWAYS remember you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR (99.9%) of the time that is bad.

orion::S14 · 09-14-2004, 01:00 PM

Scott [enthalpy] seems to have a pretty good reputation in the whole SR tuning thing...and if he's the guy assisting Martin, then why not cut out the middle man.

Are Scott's tunes $650 or less?

??? - Brian

Maxtype 240 · 09-14-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by orion::S14

Scott [enthalpy] seems to have a pretty good reputation in the whole SR tuning thing...and if he's the guy assisting Martin, then why not cut out the middle man.

Are Scott's tunes $650 or less?

??? - Brian

Scott states he charges "1/3 less" than the AEM EMS in a post today on the Tampa forums. That means $500 plus dyno time at a shop of your choice.

Brian, I'm in St. Augustine (Exit 311/318 off I-95). I have my Maxima though. Don't know how long I'll be here supporting FEMA, National Guard disaster operations...

orion::S14 · 09-15-2004, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxtype 240

...I'm in St. Augustine (Exit 311/318 off I-95). I have my Maxima though.

If you have a free evening, let me know...we can catch up.

I'll let you drive a fast S14...hehe. j/k...

[email protected]

- Brian

kazuo · 09-14-2004, 05:48 PM

Enthalpy charges less than that just to reflash.. he does not tune it unless you pay more.

I'd take Jeff's advice as far as avoiding the shop goes, he seems to know from experience.

I'd talk to Enthalpy and see if you can get him to tune the car on the dyno himself.

wootwoot · 09-14-2004, 06:43 PM

eh, that sucks about XAT. i was hoping to be able to pull off a good rom tune but i guess it doesnt seem to be the route that will happen. microtech here i come( in 6 months)

*HaLo* · 09-15-2004, 01:08 PM

Scott charges less and has a better reputation? Why go with someone else?

Check what happened to my engine

91rusty240sx · 09-15-2004, 02:49 PM

Halo, what kind of spark plugs did you have? were they hot or cold?

*HaLo* · 09-15-2004, 03:41 PM

NGK V-power with 6 heat range...

***S14DB*** · 10-23-2004, 12:44 PM

I went in there like a year ago when I was in Tampa for the day. The punk behind the counter made fun of my car cause it was stock. I proceded to laugh in his face on the outragous price on a swap with YOUR motor. If you do say that you have changed I'll stop by the nex time I'm in town. If shit's the same...well I won't be happy.

xatracing · 10-25-2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

I went in there like a year ago when I was in Tampa for the day. The punk behind the counter made fun of my car cause it was stock. I proceded to laugh in his face on the outragous price on a swap with YOUR motor. If you do say that you have changed I'll stop by the nex time I'm in town. If shit's the same...well I won't be happy.

If I heard anyone make fun of someone's car they would be fired instantly. I am not sure who it was but I can guarantee they do not work here anymore. Having been a customer in the past I know what it feels like to go into a shop and get the cold shoulder from the staff. I personally run the front desk and always make time for my customers. Come on down and check us out. We moved to a larger location just down the street we were located on previously. My name is Adam . Casey and I are the owners and I guarantee we will change your view.

Thanks

RaidenKing · 03-25-2006, 02:51 PM

had a bad experience with XAT, moved my post to a thread in reviews, sorry for gravedigging.

kandyflip445 · 03-25-2006, 03:10 PM

Did you even look at the date on this thread...

wootwoot · 03-25-2006, 09:47 PM

Yeah but still its good to get it out in the open.. I will say I have heard he uses the same fuel curve as Enthalpy since they are in the same area, have worked together slightly, and that is his preferred dyno

09-13-2004, 06:33 PM	#1
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	650 bucks for rom installation and tuning? i was just wondering if this seemed like a remotely good idea for the price. it seems a little steep to me but all dyno tuning that is necessary and installation of the rom hardware are included.

09-13-2004, 06:41 PM	#2
sr240mike Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California, Norcal biiaatch Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sounds good for actual dyno tuning. JWT charges $600 for just chipping your ecu w/o dyno time. Who's doing the tuning? __________________ TWO IN THE COOT, ONE IN THE POOT

09-13-2004, 07:31 PM	#3
kidinthehall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: AL Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	depends on whos doing the tuning...... __________________ 90 S13:............fitter, happier, more productive. 04 Yamaha R1: 210rwhp on gas/161rwhp on motor

09-14-2004, 12:05 PM	#6
Maxtype 240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Doral, FL Posts: 195 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Damn Jeff, didn't hear those stories. Do have a new crew and new location... Anyways, for the ROM tuning, I believe Martin is doing them w/ assistance from Scott? If that's not the case, then Martin doesn't have the experience to back a $650 price tag. My .02... Jesse __________________ '95 Nissan S14: KA24DET Daily Driver

09-15-2004, 01:08 PM	#16
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Scott charges less and has a better reputation? Why go with someone else? Check what happened to my engine __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

09-13-2004, 07:51 PM	#4
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	xat racing in tampa. they do an assload of sr20 work but im not sure how much expierence they have with tuning them. i had absolutely no idea jwt cost that much for the chip, yikes!

09-13-2004, 08:04 PM	#8
chigga311 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Long Island Posts: 106 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	y dont you save up 350 more and get a Power FC? You'll still need the dyno time but its like 100 an hour And you'll be able to do whatever you want

09-14-2004, 05:23 AM	#10
silviasichigo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Japan Age: 49 Posts: 782 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: silviasichigo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	POWER FC is not that difficult. first if you get the proper one it has all the basic maps you need to make the car run. I have one in my 14 and one in my 13 they are very simple to tune. If you really want to get down and dirty (this is where things get harry) you can get the data-log it system from austrailia and do some serious tuning. The power FC is a really good ECU and worth the cash all the way. Now to the thread ALWAYS remember you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR (99.9%) of the time that is bad.

09-14-2004, 01:00 PM	#11
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Scott [enthalpy] seems to have a pretty good reputation in the whole SR tuning thing...and if he's the guy assisting Martin, then why not cut out the middle man. Are Scott's tunes $650 or less? ??? - Brian

09-14-2004, 05:48 PM	#14
kazuo Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Posts: 2,762 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Enthalpy charges less than that just to reflash.. he does not tune it unless you pay more. I'd take Jeff's advice as far as avoiding the shop goes, he seems to know from experience. I'd talk to Enthalpy and see if you can get him to tune the car on the dyno himself.

09-14-2004, 06:43 PM	#15
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	eh, that sucks about XAT. i was hoping to be able to pull off a good rom tune but i guess it doesnt seem to be the route that will happen. microtech here i come( in 6 months)

09-15-2004, 02:49 PM	#17
91rusty240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 39 Posts: 467 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Halo, what kind of spark plugs did you have? were they hot or cold? __________________ Tony

09-15-2004, 03:41 PM	#18
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	NGK V-power with 6 heat range... __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

10-23-2004, 12:44 PM	#19
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I went in there like a year ago when I was in Tampa for the day. The punk behind the counter made fun of my car cause it was stock. I proceded to laugh in his face on the outragous price on a swap with YOUR motor. If you do say that you have changed I'll stop by the nex time I'm in town. If shit's the same...well I won't be happy. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

03-25-2006, 02:51 PM	#21
RaidenKing Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 36 Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	had a bad experience with XAT, moved my post to a thread in reviews, sorry for gravedigging.

03-25-2006, 03:10 PM	#22
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Did you even look at the date on this thread... __________________ My 240 vBgarage

03-25-2006, 09:47 PM	#23
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah but still its good to get it out in the open.. I will say I have heard he uses the same fuel curve as Enthalpy since they are in the same area, have worked together slightly, and that is his preferred dyno __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you