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MyFirst240SX · 03-10-2002, 07:43 PM

http://dave_240sx.tripod.com/240sxda...ance/id13.html
i want this car really bad.

BadMoJo · 03-10-2002, 08:02 PM

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>  WTF?! Where is that car, looks like its in the US. And how the fuck did he get it? and drive it on the streets?! Am I the only person who didnt know about that car?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

MyFirst240SX · 03-10-2002, 08:20 PM

I just found it when i was looking up prices on Turbo Kits.  ran a 10? thats jsut F'n amazing! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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White240sx · 03-10-2002, 08:27 PM

Too bad it doesn't really exist.

*AceInHole* · 03-10-2002, 08:47 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (White240sx @ Mar. 08 2002,10:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Too bad it doesn't really exist.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
it probably exists... just not in the USA.....

sspikey · 03-10-2002, 08:49 PM

heard about some rumors about this car i dont think its real neither. and if it is hell no its not in north america.

White240sx · 03-10-2002, 08:49 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 10 2002,8:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it probably exists... just not in the USA.....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The actual car most likely exists in Japan, it's just that it doesn't have an RB26DETT swap.

MyFirst240SX · 03-10-2002, 08:52 PM

Well If i had all that done to my car i would have Dyno Slips. Good quality Pictures that have a angle that would show the I6 and the sivlia body.  but thats just me.  It Does exist, and ill have another one day Let me Dream

wherezmytofu · 03-10-2002, 09:35 PM

the first pictures where pretty god quality...wtf happened 2 the underhood pic <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> .....what a rip off...that no way real

William · 03-10-2002, 09:45 PM

yeah, if you look the color of the ground in the picture of the engine bay is different than the color of the ground in the other pictures.  That could just mean they took the pictures on a different day or in a different place, or it could mean they're lying their asses off.  It is funny that they have no dyno sheet or timeslip when they clain 945rwhp and a 10.2 at 148.  Personally, an S15 on slicks making 945rwhp should be in the 9's.  I hope this guy isn't fake though, I sent him over $5,000 to build my 240sx.

*AceInHole* · 03-10-2002, 09:53 PM

i looked at that engine bay.... that's not an S-chassis. the front fenders of the S-chassis flare more... with a narrower hood to presearve the rounder bodylines. (something like that) anyways... want proof??

S15 engine bay:

The Fake engine bay:

Just look at the strut mounts and it's instantly recognizeably.  That's shady crap if you ask me.

The odd thing #2 is that the article never mentions how he was able to bring it to the US.... and use it as a daily driver.  It'd either be a military loophole (which it doesn't seem like... calling it business trips) or have it imported for business use, in which case the car will be crushed a year and a half ago... (you can import a car for 18 months for business use, then it must be shipped back or crushed.  also... it's not cheap by any means to ship an entire car).

William · 03-10-2002, 09:56 PM

oh shit, they're not even close!!  I really hope this guy doesn't rape me for everything I'm worth ($5,000)

*AceInHole* · 03-10-2002, 10:01 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (William @ Mar. 08 2002,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oh shit, they're not even close!! I really hope this guy doesn't rape me for everything I'm worth ($5,000)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the article doesn't seem business associated.... but I still would have never dealt with them (mostly since for swaps and imported stuff, srswap.com is pretty close to me) because of some past conversations/ arguments with them. Their VG30ET swap sounds fishy, along with their turbo "kits" (which are by no means complete)(and there have been disputes on turbo sizes and capabilities that they should be aware of but aren't).

ouch.... not to scare you more... but i'm pretty sure this is the same pic as from an ebay scam from a while ago:

  it's probably just coincidence or irony.... (the ebay scam was by a company called jdm-1.com or something....  there was a whole thing on the NICOs boards about it.)

White240sx · 03-10-2002, 10:03 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (William @ Mar. 10 2002,9:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yeah, if you look the color of the ground in the picture of the engine bay is different than the color of the ground in the other pictures. That could just mean they took the pictures on a different day or in a different place, or it could mean they're lying their asses off.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Here’s the catcher, the underhood picture is of an R33.

I'm almost certain that the pictures of the actual car are in Japan. The unburied power and communication lines and the building architecture hint at a Japanese atmosphere.

White240sx · 03-10-2002, 10:06 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 10 2002,9:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just look at the strut mounts and it's instantly recognizeably. That's shady crap if you ask me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You beat me! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Isn't there a list of shady vendors and people around somewhere? I think it's about time to add another entry...

William · 03-10-2002, 10:07 PM

I chose them because they seemed honest (which I have no reason to believe they aren't).  Also, hey have a better price for the sr swap than I've ever seen.  $1900 for engine, $200 for shipping and insurance, and $855 labor.  $2955 total.  That kills SRSWAP's price.  From what I've seen/heard so far, they're good guys with good prices.  I have to defen their turbo kits.  I think it's a great idea to give people what they need, and let them chose what they want.

*Grant* · 03-10-2002, 10:10 PM

strut towers are different, and further from the firewall. and MyFirst240SX, please dont use topic names like "penis envy" to attract attention, thanks.

*AceInHole* · 03-10-2002, 10:13 PM

<!--QuoteBegin--White240sx+Mar. 09 2002,12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (White240sx @ Mar. 09 2002,12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 10 2002,9:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just look at the strut mounts and it's instantly recognizeably. That's shady crap if you ask me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You beat me! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Isn't there a list of shady vendors and people around somewhere? I think it's about time to add another entry...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the real stupid part is the guy posts here occasionally, and on NICOs pretty often.....

wanna see something fun?? (or funny)
nicos
people actually sticking up for DA performance... (including DA themselves of course)

there's more but it's too spread out... and the zilvia search function isn't working...

White240sx · 03-10-2002, 10:29 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 10 2002,10:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">there's more but it's too spread out... and the zilvia search function isn't working...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I do recall some of the turbo conversation that went on here, that really isn’t a good way to represent the business...

I think this is one of the main problems with the "import scene". Too many poor, naive consumers, and too many vendors that try to prey on them. If people want to save money they should learn to do things themselves rather than take the path of least resistance.

XylathaneGTR · 03-10-2002, 10:41 PM

in one of my n00b posts...i was talking about a 10.2 second 910 rwhp Daily Driver s15 with rb26dett R34.
That's what i was talking about...
The guy shipped it with MotoRex i think...it IS in the US.
It runs 10.2 Seconds on Street Tires at about 145mph...its a freaking amazing car.

*AceInHole* · 03-11-2002, 08:23 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (XylathaneGTR @ Mar. 09 2002,12:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">in one of my n00b posts...i was talking about a 10.2 second 910 rwhp Daily Driver s15 with rb26dett R34.
That's what i was talking about...
The guy shipped it with MotoRex i think...it IS in the US.
It runs 10.2 Seconds on Street Tires at about 145mph...its a freaking amazing car.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I was pretty sure MotoRex wasn't even in the process of importing the S15... let alone actually doing it. If they had, don't you think we would have heard about it??? (MotoRex used to post occasionally on FA...)

Like I said... 2 ways to get a car imported onto US soil.... in the end... it usually ends up crushed.

Edit... and if the car is for real... why use the fake engine bay pic??

Krunko · 03-11-2002, 08:36 AM

Just because that is the picture of a skyline engine in a skyline, doesn't mean they were trying to pull anything shady.  Maybe he didn't have a picture of his actual engine after the swap, so he just posted a picture of underneath the hood of a skyline since it would be the same engine.

Zemus · 03-11-2002, 09:03 AM

You would think if it hads 943HP it would run better than 10s, the HKS drag car does 7s with 1100HP, yet its unibody, but still it should atleast pull out 9s

thewholefnshow · 03-11-2002, 09:13 AM

I love how we all negate the existence of an s15 here... there are lots of people driving illegal cars, like the Evos that are on our roads and stuff like that... I'll admit, that engine bay is closer to an s2000 than an s15 cause of the shock towers... but still. I would rather be blissfully retarded and believe that exists then think it is impossible.

*AceInHole* · 03-11-2002, 10:26 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (thewholefnshow @ Mar. 09 2002,11:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I love how we all negate the existence of an s15 here... there are lots of people driving illegal cars, like the Evos that are on our roads and stuff like that... I'll admit, that engine bay is closer to an s2000 than an s15 cause of the shock towers... but still. I would rather be blissfully retarded and believe that exists then think it is impossible.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol.. i'd say an Evo is easier to pass off as a Mirage than an S15 is to pass off as a 240sx.... but i guess that's just my opinion.

Anyways... you'd figure that if they were going to do a writeup that has pics, they'd include an engine bay shot... of course... that SHOULD mean an engine bay shot of the RB in the S15... since that's most of the accomplishment right there (for an original install... by a company that's supposed to do installs themselves... wouldn't they want to show their work??).  
Simply put though... I had doubts in the beginning... this is just the top of the cake.

White240sx · 03-11-2002, 04:17 PM

Yet more scandal uncovered!

http://drift.ath.cx/Carreview/SSRB26.html

http://drift.ath.cx/Carreview/
*note the caption in parenthesis under the "Super Silvia RB26" link, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Notice how the picture file names are different between the DriftCore site and DA Performances' site. The file name for the picture of the Skyline engine bay is "mvc-020s.jpg". I've concluded that this file name was assigned automatically by a digital camera, which makes the picture on the DriftCore site the original. DA performance renamed the pictures for "Steve" to try and seal their case a little better, which obviously failed.

So there you go, proven shadiness.

03-11-2002, 04:46 PM

umm...i doubt motorex would ship that, because they are a 'reputable business'. i have great dislike for those scam artists, but you have to understand that theyve gone to great lengths to appear as legal as possible (although all they are doing is trying to create a monopoly) and a daily driver s15 is NOT a legal import.

as for DA performance, look at their main page, they dont even show cars that they have worked with. the three cars with silvia face were never touched by them. correct me if im wrong, but thats mark from SS old s13, dj elecktriq (cant remeber spelling) s13 IN JAPAN, and the third (sileighty) is one from socal that was recently for sale..he had a webpage add up but i lost it. and then there is one more sileighty near the bottom. that is benson's (sileighty mania) car. he is also a socal guy who i know didnt get his job done there. they never said they worked on those cars, but dont you think they would have pics of ones they DID work on?? and im certain that they did not obtain any authorization to use those pictures.

~mike~

White240sx · 03-11-2002, 05:08 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Guest @ Mar. 11 2002,4:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">as for DA performance, look at their main page, they dont even show cars that they have worked with. and then there is one more sileighty near the bottom. that is benson's (sileighty mania) car. he is also a socal guy who i know didnt get his job done there.

and im certain that they did not obtain any authorization to use those pictures.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I bet Sileightymania would be interested to know that people are stealing his pictures. He very specifically requests on his site, and every one of his photos, not to steal them.

03-11-2002, 05:35 PM

same can be said of mark. im gonna shoot both of them a message just to see if they know.

03-11-2002, 05:41 PM

just now looking at the second set of links with bigger pictures from the other site, the second parking lot pic of the 'super silvia' seems to show right-hand drive on the accord in the background. okay ill stop now... =b

(disclaimer: I COULD BE WRONG, but thats what it looks like...)

03-10-2002, 07:43 PM	#1
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://dave_240sx.tripod.com/240sxda...ance/id13.html i want this car really bad. __________________ It is better to drive a Slow car fast than to drive a fast Car slow! '89 FastBack 5spd: Intake/Exhaust,Strut Bars and JL15. '90 Parts car/Some day drag car.

03-10-2002, 08:20 PM	#3
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just found it when i was looking up prices on Turbo Kits.  ran a 10? thats jsut F'n amazing! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ It is better to drive a Slow car fast than to drive a fast Car slow! '89 FastBack 5spd: Intake/Exhaust,Strut Bars and JL15. '90 Parts car/Some day drag car.

03-10-2002, 08:27 PM	#4
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Too bad it doesn't really exist. __________________ -Mason

03-10-2002, 08:47 PM	#5
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (White240sx @ Mar. 08 2002,10:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Too bad it doesn't really exist.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> it probably exists... just not in the USA..... __________________

03-10-2002, 08:49 PM	#6
sspikey Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	heard about some rumors about this car i dont think its real neither. and if it is hell no its not in north america. __________________ keeping it sideways cuz im too fast to drive straight.

03-10-2002, 08:02 PM	#2
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>  WTF?! Where is that car, looks like its in the US. And how the fuck did he get it? and drive it on the streets?! Am I the only person who didnt know about that car?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> __________________ ----Gone----

03-10-2002, 08:52 PM	#8
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well If i had all that done to my car i would have Dyno Slips. Good quality Pictures that have a angle that would show the I6 and the sivlia body.  but thats just me.  It Does exist, and ill have another one day Let me Dream __________________ It is better to drive a Slow car fast than to drive a fast Car slow! '89 FastBack 5spd: Intake/Exhaust,Strut Bars and JL15. '90 Parts car/Some day drag car.

03-10-2002, 09:35 PM	#9
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the first pictures where pretty god quality...wtf happened 2 the underhood pic <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> .....what a rip off...that no way real

03-10-2002, 09:45 PM	#10
William Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 90 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, if you look the color of the ground in the picture of the engine bay is different than the color of the ground in the other pictures.  That could just mean they took the pictures on a different day or in a different place, or it could mean they're lying their asses off.  It is funny that they have no dyno sheet or timeslip when they clain 945rwhp and a 10.2 at 148.  Personally, an S15 on slicks making 945rwhp should be in the 9's.  I hope this guy isn't fake though, I sent him over $5,000 to build my 240sx.

03-10-2002, 09:53 PM	#11
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i looked at that engine bay.... that's not an S-chassis. the front fenders of the S-chassis flare more... with a narrower hood to presearve the rounder bodylines. (something like that) anyways... want proof?? S15 engine bay: The Fake engine bay: Just look at the strut mounts and it's instantly recognizeably.  That's shady crap if you ask me. The odd thing #2 is that the article never mentions how he was able to bring it to the US.... and use it as a daily driver.  It'd either be a military loophole (which it doesn't seem like... calling it business trips) or have it imported for business use, in which case the car will be crushed a year and a half ago... (you can import a car for 18 months for business use, then it must be shipped back or crushed.  also... it's not cheap by any means to ship an entire car). __________________

03-10-2002, 09:56 PM	#12
William Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 90 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh shit, they're not even close!!  I really hope this guy doesn't rape me for everything I'm worth ($5,000)

03-10-2002, 10:01 PM	#13
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (William @ Mar. 08 2002,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oh shit, they're not even close!! I really hope this guy doesn't rape me for everything I'm worth ($5,000)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> the article doesn't seem business associated.... but I still would have never dealt with them (mostly since for swaps and imported stuff, srswap.com is pretty close to me) because of some past conversations/ arguments with them. Their VG30ET swap sounds fishy, along with their turbo "kits" (which are by no means complete)(and there have been disputes on turbo sizes and capabilities that they should be aware of but aren't). ouch.... not to scare you more... but i'm pretty sure this is the same pic as from an ebay scam from a while ago:   it's probably just coincidence or irony.... (the ebay scam was by a company called jdm-1.com or something....  there was a whole thing on the NICOs boards about it.) __________________

03-10-2002, 10:03 PM	#14
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (William @ Mar. 10 2002,9:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yeah, if you look the color of the ground in the picture of the engine bay is different than the color of the ground in the other pictures. That could just mean they took the pictures on a different day or in a different place, or it could mean they're lying their asses off.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Here’s the catcher, the underhood picture is of an R33. I'm almost certain that the pictures of the actual car are in Japan. The unburied power and communication lines and the building architecture hint at a Japanese atmosphere. __________________ -Mason

03-10-2002, 10:06 PM	#15
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 10 2002,9:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just look at the strut mounts and it's instantly recognizeably. That's shady crap if you ask me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> You beat me! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Isn't there a list of shady vendors and people around somewhere? I think it's about time to add another entry... __________________ -Mason

03-10-2002, 10:07 PM	#16
William Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 90 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I chose them because they seemed honest (which I have no reason to believe they aren't).  Also, hey have a better price for the sr swap than I've ever seen.  $1900 for engine, $200 for shipping and insurance, and $855 labor.  $2955 total.  That kills SRSWAP's price.  From what I've seen/heard so far, they're good guys with good prices.  I have to defen their turbo kits.  I think it's a great idea to give people what they need, and let them chose what they want.

03-10-2002, 10:10 PM	#17
Grant Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 聖地牙哥 Posts: 2,647 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Grant Feedback Score: 0 reviews	strut towers are different, and further from the firewall. and MyFirst240SX, please dont use topic names like "penis envy" to attract attention, thanks.

03-10-2002, 10:13 PM	#18
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<!--QuoteBegin--White240sx+Mar. 09 2002,12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (White240sx @ Mar. 09 2002,12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 10 2002,9:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just look at the strut mounts and it's instantly recognizeably. That's shady crap if you ask me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> You beat me! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Isn't there a list of shady vendors and people around somewhere? I think it's about time to add another entry...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> the real stupid part is the guy posts here occasionally, and on NICOs pretty often..... wanna see something fun?? (or funny) nicos people actually sticking up for DA performance... (including DA themselves of course) there's more but it's too spread out... and the zilvia search function isn't working... __________________

03-10-2002, 10:29 PM	#19
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Mar. 10 2002,10:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">there's more but it's too spread out... and the zilvia search function isn't working...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I do recall some of the turbo conversation that went on here, that really isn’t a good way to represent the business... I think this is one of the main problems with the "import scene". Too many poor, naive consumers, and too many vendors that try to prey on them. If people want to save money they should learn to do things themselves rather than take the path of least resistance. __________________ -Mason

03-10-2002, 10:41 PM	#20
XylathaneGTR Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	in one of my n00b posts...i was talking about a 10.2 second 910 rwhp Daily Driver s15 with rb26dett R34. That's what i was talking about... The guy shipped it with MotoRex i think...it IS in the US. It runs 10.2 Seconds on Street Tires at about 145mph...its a freaking amazing car. __________________ Ima newbie...! yay! Hopefully getting s14 with s15 sr20...

03-11-2002, 08:23 AM	#21
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (XylathaneGTR @ Mar. 09 2002,12:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">in one of my n00b posts...i was talking about a 10.2 second 910 rwhp Daily Driver s15 with rb26dett R34. That's what i was talking about... The guy shipped it with MotoRex i think...it IS in the US. It runs 10.2 Seconds on Street Tires at about 145mph...its a freaking amazing car.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I was pretty sure MotoRex wasn't even in the process of importing the S15... let alone actually doing it. If they had, don't you think we would have heard about it??? (MotoRex used to post occasionally on FA...) Like I said... 2 ways to get a car imported onto US soil.... in the end... it usually ends up crushed. Edit... and if the car is for real... why use the fake engine bay pic?? __________________

03-11-2002, 08:36 AM	#22
Krunko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just because that is the picture of a skyline engine in a skyline, doesn't mean they were trying to pull anything shady.  Maybe he didn't have a picture of his actual engine after the swap, so he just posted a picture of underneath the hood of a skyline since it would be the same engine.

03-11-2002, 09:03 AM	#23
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 40 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You would think if it hads 943HP it would run better than 10s, the HKS drag car does 7s with 1100HP, yet its unibody, but still it should atleast pull out 9s __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

03-11-2002, 09:13 AM	#24
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love how we all negate the existence of an s15 here... there are lots of people driving illegal cars, like the Evos that are on our roads and stuff like that... I'll admit, that engine bay is closer to an s2000 than an s15 cause of the shock towers... but still. I would rather be blissfully retarded and believe that exists then think it is impossible.

03-11-2002, 10:26 AM	#25
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (thewholefnshow @ Mar. 09 2002,11:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I love how we all negate the existence of an s15 here... there are lots of people driving illegal cars, like the Evos that are on our roads and stuff like that... I'll admit, that engine bay is closer to an s2000 than an s15 cause of the shock towers... but still. I would rather be blissfully retarded and believe that exists then think it is impossible.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> lol.. i'd say an Evo is easier to pass off as a Mirage than an S15 is to pass off as a 240sx.... but i guess that's just my opinion. Anyways... you'd figure that if they were going to do a writeup that has pics, they'd include an engine bay shot... of course... that SHOULD mean an engine bay shot of the RB in the S15... since that's most of the accomplishment right there (for an original install... by a company that's supposed to do installs themselves... wouldn't they want to show their work??).   Simply put though... I had doubts in the beginning... this is just the top of the cake. __________________

03-11-2002, 04:17 PM	#26
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yet more scandal uncovered! http://drift.ath.cx/Carreview/SSRB26.html http://drift.ath.cx/Carreview/ *note the caption in parenthesis under the "Super Silvia RB26" link, you will be pleasantly surprised. Notice how the picture file names are different between the DriftCore site and DA Performances' site. The file name for the picture of the Skyline engine bay is "mvc-020s.jpg". I've concluded that this file name was assigned automatically by a digital camera, which makes the picture on the DriftCore site the original. DA performance renamed the pictures for "Steve" to try and seal their case a little better, which obviously failed. So there you go, proven shadiness. __________________ -Mason

03-11-2002, 04:46 PM	#27
Guest Posts: n/a	umm...i doubt motorex would ship that, because they are a 'reputable business'. i have great dislike for those scam artists, but you have to understand that theyve gone to great lengths to appear as legal as possible (although all they are doing is trying to create a monopoly) and a daily driver s15 is NOT a legal import. as for DA performance, look at their main page, they dont even show cars that they have worked with. the three cars with silvia face were never touched by them. correct me if im wrong, but thats mark from SS old s13, dj elecktriq (cant remeber spelling) s13 IN JAPAN, and the third (sileighty) is one from socal that was recently for sale..he had a webpage add up but i lost it. and then there is one more sileighty near the bottom. that is benson's (sileighty mania) car. he is also a socal guy who i know didnt get his job done there. they never said they worked on those cars, but dont you think they would have pics of ones they DID work on?? and im certain that they did not obtain any authorization to use those pictures. ~mike~

03-11-2002, 05:08 PM	#28
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Guest @ Mar. 11 2002,4:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">as for DA performance, look at their main page, they dont even show cars that they have worked with. and then there is one more sileighty near the bottom. that is benson's (sileighty mania) car. he is also a socal guy who i know didnt get his job done there. and im certain that they did not obtain any authorization to use those pictures.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I bet Sileightymania would be interested to know that people are stealing his pictures. He very specifically requests on his site, and every one of his photos, not to steal them. __________________ -Mason

03-11-2002, 05:35 PM	#29
Guest Posts: n/a	same can be said of mark. im gonna shoot both of them a message just to see if they know.

03-11-2002, 05:41 PM	#30
Guest Posts: n/a	just now looking at the second set of links with bigger pictures from the other site, the second parking lot pic of the 'super silvia' seems to show right-hand drive on the accord in the background. okay ill stop now... =b (disclaimer: I COULD BE WRONG, but thats what it looks like...)