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Crab Walker · 04-02-2005, 04:42 PM

Decideing on doing the redtop swap in my nonruning 93 240 or buying a already fast car with money saved. Just had couple questions before i make a choice. What exactly would it take to squeeze 200 whp out of redtop?

250 whp?

300 whp?

and thats all, definetly wont be needing anymore than 300 whp. Thanks.

DMC · 04-02-2005, 05:06 PM

You should be at 200+ stock, if you get a FMIC and turn your boost up to 14 you should be approaching 250hp, with a t28 you would definatly be able to get there, a 300zx maf and t28 with larger injectors running max boost should get you close to 300, a big28 instead of the t28 would take you above 300 easily. Obvioulsy youll need some type of management to account for larger injectors, and a fuel pump that can flow enough.

Blues13 · 04-02-2005, 06:13 PM

You can almost always buy a fast car for a lot less money than if you were to do it yourself and buy all the parts. It depends whether you take pride in doing things yourself or just want to go fast and not really caring about how it got there.

RedlineRacer · 04-02-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blues13

You can almost always buy a fast car for a lot less money than if you were to do it yourself and buy all the parts. It depends whether you take pride in doing things yourself or just want to go fast and not really caring about how it got there.

Not really. Say you want your 240 to be at 300whp. Spend about $3,000 on a turbo setup on a KA and the price for your 240 (maybe 3,000). So, you got about 6,000 in your 240 and it has 300whp. Whats another car that can handle like a 240, and have that much power that will be cheaper?

Blues13 · 04-03-2005, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RedlineRacer

Not really. Say you want your 240 to be at 300whp. Spend about $3,000 on a turbo setup on a KA and the price for your 240 (maybe 3,000). So, you got about 6,000 in your 240 and it has 300whp. Whats another car that can handle like a 240, and have that much power that will be cheaper?

You fail to realize all the time and money spent on the swap.. that's a lot of work and often a lot of trouble shooting, running to the store for parts, and downtime if you're going to do it yourself whether it be KA-T or SR. Additionally, a car with a SR or KA-T swap done already probably has some suspension work as well as nice bonus items like FMICS, aftermarket seats, tension rods, or steering wheel, etc.. And in most instances, a SR will usually have much less miles than a KA.

Although you do take a risk when purchasing a used car, it's like most used cars.. if you do your homework and check out the vehicle thoroughly, you can minimalize most of the risks.

Decent SRs go for around 6k all the time. This is not the best example, but 240s like this go on ebay everyday.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6396

While it is no where near a show car, try to do that on 6k budget and I'm positive you will fall short. It's not as easy as it seems to just slap on a turbo.. and the original poster doesn't seem like an expert. There will definitely be delays and unexpected problems if he swaps it himself.

Since you do have a late model S13, depending on the condition, it might be easier to just get a professional to swap in a SR if you can find a good deal. I would not recommend doing it yourself if you're on a budget or time constraint. That should achieve your 200-250 with simple bolt-ons.

ultraDorksGarage · 04-02-2005, 07:03 PM

dont forget fixing other peoples projects is terribley frustrating, possibley more frustrating than answering that question..."am i getting fat?"

wootwoot · 04-02-2005, 07:14 PM

^^^ I'm trying to do that and its SO FRICKIN HARD

mjjstang · 04-02-2005, 09:30 PM

no theyre talking about buying an already modded out 240 with sr, instead of doing it themselves, Ive spent over 10 g on my car, and at the moment its on stock turbo (although new setup in the mail) and body looks like a bare to the bone 240, so yah trust me I could go on ebay and find the same damn thing for lower than 6 grand probably,

Crab Walker · 04-03-2005, 01:47 AM

sorry, i was talking about wheel hp. 200 to 250 wheel hp sounds nice from a redtop. just wanted to know what was needed to acheive that. If its too much money or too complicated, i think i might end up getting a bike, like a 600 or something...

[EDIT] wouldent want to change the fuel magagement computer

mjjstang · 04-03-2005, 01:58 AM

yah do that then sell your car to me if its rust free im in michigan too

04-02-2005, 04:42 PM	#1
Crab Walker Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Motor City Detroit Age: 39 Posts: 133 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How to pull good power from redtop? Decideing on doing the redtop swap in my nonruning 93 240 or buying a already fast car with money saved. Just had couple questions before i make a choice. What exactly would it take to squeeze 200 whp out of redtop? 250 whp? 300 whp? and thats all, definetly wont be needing anymore than 300 whp. Thanks.

04-02-2005, 09:30 PM	#8
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	no theyre talking about buying an already modded out 240 with sr, instead of doing it themselves, Ive spent over 10 g on my car, and at the moment its on stock turbo (although new setup in the mail) and body looks like a bare to the bone 240, so yah trust me I could go on ebay and find the same damn thing for lower than 6 grand probably, __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

04-03-2005, 01:58 AM	#10
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	yah do that then sell your car to me if its rust free im in michigan too __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

04-02-2005, 05:06 PM	#2
DMC Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chesapeake, Va Posts: 609 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You should be at 200+ stock, if you get a FMIC and turn your boost up to 14 you should be approaching 250hp, with a t28 you would definatly be able to get there, a 300zx maf and t28 with larger injectors running max boost should get you close to 300, a big28 instead of the t28 would take you above 300 easily. Obvioulsy youll need some type of management to account for larger injectors, and a fuel pump that can flow enough.

04-02-2005, 06:13 PM	#3
Blues13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OC Posts: 435 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You can almost always buy a fast car for a lot less money than if you were to do it yourself and buy all the parts. It depends whether you take pride in doing things yourself or just want to go fast and not really caring about how it got there.

04-02-2005, 07:03 PM	#6
ultraDorksGarage Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dont forget fixing other peoples projects is terribley frustrating, possibley more frustrating than answering that question..."am i getting fat?"

04-02-2005, 07:14 PM	#7
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^ I'm trying to do that and its SO FRICKIN HARD

04-03-2005, 01:47 AM	#9
Crab Walker Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Motor City Detroit Age: 39 Posts: 133 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry, i was talking about wheel hp. 200 to 250 wheel hp sounds nice from a redtop. just wanted to know what was needed to acheive that. If its too much money or too complicated, i think i might end up getting a bike, like a 600 or something... [EDIT] wouldent want to change the fuel magagement computer