which engine oil and oil filter do I go with? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

xagna · 08-30-2005, 03:18 PM

Time for me to do an engine oil change on a car. Which oil and oil filter do you recommand?

It's s13 with ka24d.

nsn240 · 08-30-2005, 03:23 PM

royal purple oil, K&N oil filter imo

jdm538 · 08-30-2005, 03:26 PM

i buy walmart super tech full synthetic oil and filter

A Spec Products · 08-30-2005, 03:51 PM

haha people gonna hate on this buuuut

FRAM filter + valvoline dinosaur oil

*NemeGuero* · 08-30-2005, 03:55 PM

Don't get FRAM anything.. no matter what..

and any synthetic oil should be ok

*revat619* · 08-30-2005, 03:57 PM

Mobil 1 filter / 10w30 Mobile 1 full synthetic oil.

Fram filters suck man! I work part time at an autozone and we took one filter from each brand and cut them in half for this display we were supposed to put up. And fram has BY FAR the worst filtration EVER. The tough guard ones are a liiiiiiiiitle better though, but not by much. Funny thing is, STP is like 1.50 + cheaper than the regular fram and it does a way better job. We had to take the display down cuz of that!

kandyflip445 · 08-30-2005, 04:00 PM

I would be more worried about the construction with the Fram. They use freakin cardboard to hold the element in place.

Look at this: http://www.oilfilterstudy.com/

I like Redline A LOT. By far the best oil I've used. Mobil 1 comes next but it still doesn't come close to Redline. I don't like Quaker State or Penzoil.

*revat619* · 08-30-2005, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandyflip445

I would be more worried about the construction with the Fram. They use freakin cardboard to hold the element in place.

Look at this: http://www.oilfilterstudy.com/

I like Redline A LOT. By far the best oil I've used. Mobil 1 comes next but it still doesn't come close to Redline. I don't like Quaker State or Penzoil.

yeah exactly! i was like "cardboard!? WTF!" when i saw it.

hahaha i dont like quaker state or penzoil either.

IMO, Redline, Royal Purple, Mobile 1, Valvoline, and Castrol are the ways to go.

Var · 08-30-2005, 04:09 PM

The 3 top oils according to lab analysis after usage are

German Castrol
Redline Synthetic
Amsoil

Mobil and Royal Purple performed poorly compared to these other oils. The German Castrol is the cheapest of the group and works the best. It's only 5 bucks a quart. You can tell the German apart form the regular cause it has a green label on the front instead of red, and in the back it says "Made in Germany" and "approved for Porsche" somewhere in all the clutter. If you wanna know more about oil, check this website out.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

w0nderbr3ad · 08-30-2005, 07:22 PM

anyone know how well the oem oil filters compare?

aznpoopy · 08-30-2005, 07:36 PM

fram sucks. don't use fram.

i use castrol.

OEM filters are okay. i use them.

i read an indepedent review years ago that said purolater pure one was the best, with mobil1 filters coming in a close second. sorry, no link.

Var · 08-30-2005, 07:48 PM

I used a Mobil 1 filter ($10.99) with Redline 5w30 x 7 quarts($52) and free labor. that's 63 bucks i'll spend every 3k miles for peace of mind. Dont be cheap about your oil changes. If you cant afford your car, sell it.

**Phlip** · 08-30-2005, 09:55 PM

Mobil1 10w 30 full synthetic (got it at an O'reilly auto grand opening for $8.99/4-quart bottle, I bought 5 that day) and Nissan OEM filter

***S14DB*** · 08-30-2005, 10:05 PM

OEM http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=87744

ranisron · 08-31-2005, 07:41 AM

OEM Nissan filters for the past... 3 years... for the altima, same with my 240sx...

they are high quality and they are pretty cheap, too.

oil wise. Both my cars run on full syn, whichever the cheapest (I grabbed some Quaker state at Wal mart, they are pretty cheap, less than $4.00 per quart), they went into my 240sx. My altima runs on mobil 1 fully syn, 12,000 mile type... I am too lazy to change my oil.

weight wise usually 10w-30, since I don't drive hard enough

Edit: Mobil 1 Full Syn got more expense over the past few months... any ideas?

**Phlip** · 08-31-2005, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranisron

Edit: Mobil 1 Full Syn got more expense over the past few months... any ideas?

Must be local to you, I got mine on a GREAT deal at O'reilly (I posted above) a few months back, I got enough to last me a year and a half the deal was so good, but it has held steady at my local Wal Mart, $19.73/5 quarts.

kandyflip445 · 08-31-2005, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranisron

OEM Nissan filters for the past... 3 years... for the altima, same with my 240sx...

they are high quality and they are pretty cheap, too.

oil wise. Both my cars run on full syn, whichever the cheapest (I grabbed some Quaker state at Wal mart, they are pretty cheap, less than $4.00 per quart), they went into my 240sx. My altima runs on mobil 1 fully syn, 12,000 mile type... I am too lazy to change my oil.

weight wise usually 10w-30, since I don't drive hard enough

Edit: Mobil 1 Full Syn got more expense over the past few months... any ideas?

You should change your filter at least 3k miles and top it off.

**Phlip** · 08-31-2005, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandyflip445

You should change your filter at least 3k miles and top it off.

Personally, if I am going to the effort of changing the filter, I can go ahead and change the oil... I don't even have to jack the car up, just slide the pan under it and I have a FRAM SureDrain, I can reach down from in the engine bay and drain the oil.

i8yourfwd · 08-31-2005, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHLIP

Personally, if I am going to the effort of changing the filter, I can go ahead and change the oil... I don't even have to jack the car up, just slide the pan under it and I have a FRAM SureDrain, I can reach down from in the engine bay and drain the oil.

That's sweet, maybe I'll get one. Any problems with yours? Where do you mount it (i don't even know what it looks like)

**Phlip** · 08-31-2005, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i8yourfwd

That's sweet, maybe I'll get one. Any problems with yours? Where do you mount it (i don't even know what it looks like)

It takes the place of the old drain plug, but the entire oil change is done without tools... Given the fact that there is very little extraneous crap in my engine bay in the way, I can just reach down and change it. This is it right here, $12.96 at Advance Auto:

kandyflip445 · 08-31-2005, 08:23 AM

I hear ya. It's just 12k miles seems like a long time to not change the oil OR filter.

**Phlip** · 08-31-2005, 08:26 AM

^^^ Oh, I thought so too, I just chose not to say anything about it, 12k miles without oil/filter change was too assinine an idea to be true, even to someone who hates to change their oil... If I were to try that in my own car, I would easily go almost a year without changing

ranisron · 08-31-2005, 09:15 AM

for the altima, it is a pain in the ass to change the filter due to the FWD layout... plus my altima is down in the mean time - tranny was shot.

The 240 is complete different story - oil filter is so easy to access... I just dont' want much of oil to be dropped on the motor mount - i am a bit anal about it.

420sx · 08-31-2005, 09:22 AM

not anal. obsessive comlulsive. i dont think i ever changed my oil without spilling some of it from the filter

ranisron · 08-31-2005, 09:40 AM

hahaa.........

I am saving up for new nismo mounts (or 3M window weld mounts).... I get a bit of oil leak as well...

oh well, going back to the discussion. OEM Filter + decent syn oil + frequent oil change = you are set.
seafoams anyone?

**Phlip** · 08-31-2005, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranisron

seafoams anyone?

Only when the engine was first in the car, used it to clean the engine that had been sitting in the junkyard for an amount of time I couldn't have known... Put fresh oil and filter on after that and then changed it again in 1500 miles to be safe... I also used another can to clean a fuel system that had sat unused with about a half a tank of gas in it for almost a year... Hasn't been necessary since, and I change my oil religiously at 3000 miles now, give/take 100 miles.

ranisron · 08-31-2005, 10:02 AM

in regards to seafoam, I used on both the U13 and the S13... both times no smoke at all... so I think my engines are freaking clean lol.

i8yourfwd · 08-31-2005, 10:05 AM

I'll probobly pick that up today. I'm due for an oil change anyways.

*NemeGuero* · 08-31-2005, 10:15 AM

this thread has been beaten to death.. I think he has his answer.. haha

WanganRunner · 08-31-2005, 01:18 PM

If I'm going to change to synthetic on an engine that's been running dino oil (82k mile KA in a 98 S14), should I do any sort of flush first or anything, or should I just change it?

Also, where are you getting redline for under $8/quart? That's a hella good deal.

08-30-2005, 03:18 PM	#1
xagna Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ny Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	which engine oil and oil filter do I go with? Time for me to do an engine oil change on a car. Which oil and oil filter do you recommand? It's s13 with ka24d.

08-30-2005, 03:51 PM	#4
A Spec Products Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,256 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	haha people gonna hate on this buuuut FRAM filter + valvoline dinosaur oil __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 103 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

08-30-2005, 03:57 PM	#6
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Mobil 1 filter / 10w30 Mobile 1 full synthetic oil. Fram filters suck man! I work part time at an autozone and we took one filter from each brand and cut them in half for this display we were supposed to put up. And fram has BY FAR the worst filtration EVER. The tough guard ones are a liiiiiiiiitle better though, but not by much. Funny thing is, STP is like 1.50 + cheaper than the regular fram and it does a way better job. We had to take the display down cuz of that! __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

08-30-2005, 04:00 PM	#7
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I would be more worried about the construction with the Fram. They use freakin cardboard to hold the element in place. Look at this: http://www.oilfilterstudy.com/ I like Redline A LOT. By far the best oil I've used. Mobil 1 comes next but it still doesn't come close to Redline. I don't like Quaker State or Penzoil. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

08-30-2005, 04:09 PM	#9
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The 3 top oils according to lab analysis after usage are German Castrol Redline Synthetic Amsoil Mobil and Royal Purple performed poorly compared to these other oils. The German Castrol is the cheapest of the group and works the best. It's only 5 bucks a quart. You can tell the German apart form the regular cause it has a green label on the front instead of red, and in the back it says "Made in Germany" and "approved for Porsche" somewhere in all the clutter. If you wanna know more about oil, check this website out. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/ __________________ Hi

08-30-2005, 03:23 PM	#2
nsn240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: pa Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	royal purple oil, K&N oil filter imo

08-30-2005, 03:26 PM	#3
jdm538 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: LA/OC SOCAL Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (30) Feedback Score: 30 reviews	i buy walmart super tech full synthetic oil and filter

08-30-2005, 03:55 PM	#5
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Don't get FRAM anything.. no matter what.. and any synthetic oil should be ok

08-30-2005, 07:22 PM	#10
w0nderbr3ad Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vantucky Posts: 1,294 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	anyone know how well the oem oil filters compare?

08-30-2005, 07:36 PM	#11
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	fram sucks. don't use fram. i use castrol. OEM filters are okay. i use them. i read an indepedent review years ago that said purolater pure one was the best, with mobil1 filters coming in a close second. sorry, no link.

08-30-2005, 07:48 PM	#12
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I used a Mobil 1 filter ($10.99) with Redline 5w30 x 7 quarts($52) and free labor. that's 63 bucks i'll spend every 3k miles for peace of mind. Dont be cheap about your oil changes. If you cant afford your car, sell it. __________________ Hi

08-30-2005, 09:55 PM	#13
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Mobil1 10w 30 full synthetic (got it at an O'reilly auto grand opening for $8.99/4-quart bottle, I bought 5 that day) and Nissan OEM filter __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

08-30-2005, 10:05 PM	#14
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	OEM http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=87744 __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

08-31-2005, 07:41 AM	#15
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 43 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OEM Nissan filters for the past... 3 years... for the altima, same with my 240sx... they are high quality and they are pretty cheap, too. oil wise. Both my cars run on full syn, whichever the cheapest (I grabbed some Quaker state at Wal mart, they are pretty cheap, less than $4.00 per quart), they went into my 240sx. My altima runs on mobil 1 fully syn, 12,000 mile type... I am too lazy to change my oil. weight wise usually 10w-30, since I don't drive hard enough Edit: Mobil 1 Full Syn got more expense over the past few months... any ideas? __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

08-31-2005, 08:23 AM	#21
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I hear ya. It's just 12k miles seems like a long time to not change the oil OR filter. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

08-31-2005, 08:26 AM	#22
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ Oh, I thought so too, I just chose not to say anything about it, 12k miles without oil/filter change was too assinine an idea to be true, even to someone who hates to change their oil... If I were to try that in my own car, I would easily go almost a year without changing __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

08-31-2005, 09:15 AM	#23
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 43 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	for the altima, it is a pain in the ass to change the filter due to the FWD layout... plus my altima is down in the mean time - tranny was shot. The 240 is complete different story - oil filter is so easy to access... I just dont' want much of oil to be dropped on the motor mount - i am a bit anal about it. __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

08-31-2005, 09:22 AM	#24
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not anal. obsessive comlulsive. i dont think i ever changed my oil without spilling some of it from the filter __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

08-31-2005, 09:40 AM	#25
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 43 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hahaa......... I am saving up for new nismo mounts (or 3M window weld mounts).... I get a bit of oil leak as well... oh well, going back to the discussion. OEM Filter + decent syn oil + frequent oil change = you are set. seafoams anyone? __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

08-31-2005, 10:02 AM	#27
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 43 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	in regards to seafoam, I used on both the U13 and the S13... both times no smoke at all... so I think my engines are freaking clean lol. __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

08-31-2005, 10:15 AM	#29
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	this thread has been beaten to death.. I think he has his answer.. haha

08-31-2005, 01:18 PM	#30
WanganRunner Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Posts: 1,655 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If I'm going to change to synthetic on an engine that's been running dino oil (82k mile KA in a 98 S14), should I do any sort of flush first or anything, or should I just change it? Also, where are you getting redline for under $8/quart? That's a hella good deal.