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Booztd 3 · 02-01-2008, 05:02 PM

Guys

I have an entire rear subframe out of a non-turbo 300ZX. I assumed that I would have everything I needed to put the R200 in, considering all the write-ups I can find all deal with installing J30 difs, not the 300zx dif.

So now on to the crappy part.....

The S14 I have has 6 bolt output shafts. There are 3 sets of 2 12mm bolts holding the axles to the output shafts.

The R200 rear end I have from the NA Z has 5 bolt output shafts. They are 14mm bolts.

So now I start thinking OK maybe I can swap output shafts between the difs, and my stock S14 axles will bolt up now. I get the output shafts out and immediately notice they are different. Not going to work

Now I am thinking lets just use the NA 300ZX axles, since they are the same spline hub, and they have the correct output flanges on for the R200.

I get the axles out and set them side by side, and immediately notice that the 300ZX axle lenght, and the S14 axle lenght are different, by quite a bit. I tried putting them in to see if the diff would fit up in there, no luck, they're too long.

What the heck do I need to make this rear end work?

Thanks

S13Koop · 02-01-2008, 05:11 PM

um
early J30 axles
amirite?

Risu2112 · 02-01-2008, 05:16 PM

I'm trying to forsee similar problems on my Q45 rear end install, it's my understanding those axles are the same length as the S13's and I _THOUGHT_ the same bolt pattern as the 300z' something about using one Q45 and one 300z , I dunno my self though still doing research on it >.>

devonkyle77 · 02-01-2008, 05:54 PM

j30 axles ftw

Booztd 3 · 02-01-2008, 07:27 PM

Anyone know of a place to get some of these used?

I checked all the local parts stores and they're all special order, and cost a shit-ton....

timlush · 02-01-2008, 07:29 PM

Get 6 bolt out put shafts from an S14 LSD.

Booztd 3 · 02-01-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlush

Get 6 bolt out put shafts from an S14 LSD.

I'd imagine those are alot harder to come by as opposed to a J30 axle....

stinky_180 · 02-01-2008, 08:38 PM

’90-96 300ZX N/A

Need different output shafts or axles

Can use '92-94 J30 axles -OR-
S13/S14 (or ’95-96 J30) VLSD output shafts
4.083 Ratio

source: ka24development.com

Booztd 3 · 02-01-2008, 08:50 PM

I have a complete 300ZX TT rear subframe at my disposal as well. I may just order up a Q45 diff and drivers axle, and take the drivers side axle as well as the uprights out of the 300ZX subframe and call it good.....

Might be better in the long run as I'm planning on 600+rwhp and gobs of torque

articdragon192 · 02-02-2008, 02:23 PM

EDIT: K, I totally read everything wrong, lol. You're talking about putting a Z32 R200 diff into an S14. BRB with that info.

MrChow · 02-02-2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinky_180

’90-96 300ZX N/A

Need different output shafts or axles

Can use '92-94 J30 axles -OR-
S13/S14 (or ’95-96 J30) VLSD output shafts
4.083 Ratio

source: ka24development.com

http://www.ka24development.com/vlsd.html Good info go and read.

projectRDM · 02-02-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booztd 3

I have a complete 300ZX TT rear subframe at my disposal as well. I may just order up a Q45 diff and drivers axle, and take the drivers side axle as well as the uprights out of the 300ZX subframe and call it good.....

Might be better in the long run as I'm planning on 600+rwhp and gobs of torque

TT uprights have a ball joint pressed in for the HICAS, you'll need to remove it and replace it with a bushing.

As far as J30 axles, the 92-94s are the 5bolt style. The Q45 axles are too long as well.

02-01-2008, 05:02 PM	#1
Booztd 3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peoria IL Age: 41 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	R200 Install gone bad....need help Guys I have an entire rear subframe out of a non-turbo 300ZX. I assumed that I would have everything I needed to put the R200 in, considering all the write-ups I can find all deal with installing J30 difs, not the 300zx dif. So now on to the crappy part..... The S14 I have has 6 bolt output shafts. There are 3 sets of 2 12mm bolts holding the axles to the output shafts. The R200 rear end I have from the NA Z has 5 bolt output shafts. They are 14mm bolts. So now I start thinking OK maybe I can swap output shafts between the difs, and my stock S14 axles will bolt up now. I get the output shafts out and immediately notice they are different. Not going to work Now I am thinking lets just use the NA 300ZX axles, since they are the same spline hub, and they have the correct output flanges on for the R200. I get the axles out and set them side by side, and immediately notice that the 300ZX axle lenght, and the S14 axle lenght are different, by quite a bit. I tried putting them in to see if the diff would fit up in there, no luck, they're too long. What the heck do I need to make this rear end work? Thanks

02-01-2008, 05:11 PM	#2
S13Koop Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 282 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	um early J30 axles amirite? __________________ JZX100

02-01-2008, 05:54 PM	#4
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	j30 axles ftw __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

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stinky_180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pale Blue Dot Age: 40 Posts: 2,064 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	’90-96 300ZX N/A Need different output shafts or axles Can use '92-94 J30 axles -OR- S13/S14 (or ’95-96 J30) VLSD output shafts 4.083 Ratio source: ka24development.com __________________ SoCal RallyX Coverage and MTB Ride Reports WheelsDirty

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02-01-2008, 05:16 PM	#3
Risu2112 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San jose CA Age: 41 Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm trying to forsee similar problems on my Q45 rear end install, it's my understanding those axles are the same length as the S13's and I _THOUGHT_ the same bolt pattern as the 300z' something about using one Q45 and one 300z , I dunno my self though still doing research on it >.>

02-01-2008, 07:27 PM	#5
Booztd 3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peoria IL Age: 41 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Anyone know of a place to get some of these used? I checked all the local parts stores and they're all special order, and cost a shit-ton....

02-01-2008, 07:29 PM	#6
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 40 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Get 6 bolt out put shafts from an S14 LSD.

02-01-2008, 08:50 PM	#9
Booztd 3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peoria IL Age: 41 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I have a complete 300ZX TT rear subframe at my disposal as well. I may just order up a Q45 diff and drivers axle, and take the drivers side axle as well as the uprights out of the 300ZX subframe and call it good..... Might be better in the long run as I'm planning on 600+rwhp and gobs of torque

02-02-2008, 02:23 PM	#10
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 39 Posts: 6,792 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	EDIT: K, I totally read everything wrong, lol. You're talking about putting a Z32 R200 diff into an S14. BRB with that info.