I bid thee all farewell... - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

JeffNJ · 10-21-2001, 10:43 PM

Well, the time has come in which I must depart. You've all been great through the two 240's I've owned, but now since I don't have any, I feel somehow like I shouldn't be hangin' around these parts anymore. My convertible was fun, as you all know, but it just wasn't strong and enclosed enough with a Jersey winter approaching. That said, I have sold it. Actually, I sold it to a guy who asked me the URL of this place, so who knows, maybe he'll be around.

Anyway, the point is, I don't have a 240 anymore. So, uhm, ta-ta for now.

-Jeff Jamieson
Gettin' ready to put the "Z" back in Zilvia. =)

(Edited by JeffNJ at 12:46 am on Oct. 22, 2001)

*LanceS13* · 10-21-2001, 10:46 PM

Hey man, you don't have to go for good...drop back in sometime...and enjoy your future car (whatever it may be).:)

*transient* · 10-21-2001, 11:38 PM

Definately, it'd be cool so see you drop in from time to time. Have fun with whatever you end up buying <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

IceTekGuy · 10-22-2001, 01:04 AM

You used to have one, that entitles you to be here no matter what kind of other shitbox (j/k) you have now...

S13Grl · 10-22-2001, 09:12 AM

Exactly! Don't you dare not stop by and chat with us. You still know about 240s just as much as you did when you owned one.

What are you buying now?

my240likenoother · 10-23-2001, 06:15 AM

i bet he got the f*cking metia(spelling?)  LOL

bing · 10-23-2001, 07:41 AM

er.... miata.

no i dont know why i know that.....they're awesome...no who said that..........aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!

(curling up in a ball and shivering....)

JeffNJ · 10-25-2001, 02:09 PM

It's a good thing I came back when I did. Good lord, the rumors that could've flown. I did not, nor will I ever, buy the miata. I must admit, I have been swayed by the smaller convertibles though, and am very seriously considering a 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder.

I havn't decided for certain yet, but it is the leading contender right now. Since I feel so loved, I'll definately keep you all posted. =)

(Edited by JeffNJ at 4:35 pm on Oct. 25, 2001)

IceTekGuy · 10-25-2001, 02:14 PM

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, don't ever down grade yourself... you NEVER go from a nissan to a toyota... thats just bad news.
well, if you do get a toyota, may god bless your soul, and be carefull of parts flying off at unexpected times <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> :o

JeffNJ · 10-25-2001, 02:25 PM

See what I mean. It's so hard to look at non-Nissan cars and still hang out here. So, everyone, here's the thing. I want a convertible. I just do - I can't help myself. Now, I think I would be able to settle for a targa top or t-tops, but I would prefer a convertible. You've all heard it before. That said, the inherent problems with a convertible need to be adressed (and perhaps the 240 inparticular).

- Weight. As a general rule, convertibles are heavier than their coupe equivilent. The roof's motors, and the frame's reinforcements are the chief causes of this. Weight, as we all know, is bad, inhibiting both acceleration and handling.

- Rigidity. Even reinforced, convertibles still lack the same firmness only a roof can provide. I, however, would like to get by without a roof anyway.

- Visability. Generally, cloth tops are less clear than hardtops; windows are either fewer, smaller, or both. Sometimes, they're even made of plastic. Blech.

- Heat retention. This one should be obvious.

Ok, the 240 convertible is so much heavier than a 240 hard top that it's 0-60 time differs from 7 seconds to 10. That's disgusting. The MR2 is roofless, and still scores a 7. Speaking of the MR2, it was also designed from the ground up to be a convertible, so it's rigidity was built in - unlike the lovely and beautiful 240, which is only lovely and beautiful in coupe and fastback form. Plus, being as small as it is (I hardly ever had passengers in the back of my 240 anyway), it's naturally firmer ... not to mention how quickly the closed cabin will heat up in the winter. Also, the rear window (unlike the 240) is made out of the marvelous material we all know and love: glass.

Perhaps most importantly, I should also point this out. I can afford one. If anyone can keep everything above in mind and recommend something else, I would really like to hear your suggestions. Thanks so much.  =)

(Edited by JeffNJ at 4:31 pm on Oct. 25, 2001)

groundzero · 10-25-2001, 02:44 PM

Jeff,
Hey man I'm happy for you bro...In life you have to experience something new...Are you going to get your MR2 soon? If so, post your pic up on here...Take care, and thanks for all your help when I was asking for some advice...Laterz...

vancouvers14 · 10-25-2001, 03:26 PM

i've seen a really nice modded new mr2.  go for it.  

AJ · 10-25-2001, 03:48 PM

mr2 are front wheel drive rn't they?..the new ones anyway......   ahhh i just can't imagine a front wheel drive car anymore...  i just want the ass to swing around,, can't help it....  i'll probably wreck and wish i had a front wheel drive car... but ####... when that day comes,, maybe i'll get one.   IF i got one... the mr2 would be a sweet choice, i love the new ones.  I've got a buddy who's older brother has one.. it handles like a freakin dream with the aftermarket susp. he has on it.  Good luck,, plus...  there is that build in cooler in the hood.   check that out and let me know how it works!  cops will nvr think to look there for ur beer!.. (r u 21?)

*LanceS13* · 10-25-2001, 04:00 PM

Mr. two's are pretty cool little cars...mid-engine RWD (AJ)...and even the newer ones have alot of potential.  I think SCC featured one a few months ago with something like 400hp.  That's crazy in a car that size.  It's a bit impractical with no back seat and a whole square foot of storage space, but if open air performance is all you want then I think the MR2 is a great choice.  It beat the Miata in almost all comparison tests I've seen.  And to IceTek, I'm pretty sure that overall Toyota is the most reliable vehicle manufacturer with Honda coming in a close second based on some study I read somewhere.  I can't remember where I saw it, though.

FastNissan · 10-25-2001, 07:33 PM

This is not a suggestion, but the C5 convertible actually weighs less than the coupe or hardtop.

Sorry, but one of my roommates drives a built Corvette.

10-21-2001, 10:43 PM	#1
JeffNJ Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, the time has come in which I must depart. You've all been great through the two 240's I've owned, but now since I don't have any, I feel somehow like I shouldn't be hangin' around these parts anymore. My convertible was fun, as you all know, but it just wasn't strong and enclosed enough with a Jersey winter approaching. That said, I have sold it. Actually, I sold it to a guy who asked me the URL of this place, so who knows, maybe he'll be around. Anyway, the point is, I don't have a 240 anymore. So, uhm, ta-ta for now. -Jeff Jamieson Gettin' ready to put the "Z" back in Zilvia. =) (Edited by JeffNJ at 12:46 am on Oct. 22, 2001) __________________ Jeff Jamieson "Hey, it's not MY fault the Varietta isn't available yet!"

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10-21-2001, 10:46 PM	#2
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey man, you don't have to go for good...drop back in sometime...and enjoy your future car (whatever it may be).:)

10-21-2001, 11:38 PM	#3
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Definately, it'd be cool so see you drop in from time to time. Have fun with whatever you end up buying <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

10-22-2001, 01:04 AM	#4
IceTekGuy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You used to have one, that entitles you to be here no matter what kind of other shitbox (j/k) you have now...

10-22-2001, 09:12 AM	#5
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Exactly! Don't you dare not stop by and chat with us. You still know about 240s just as much as you did when you owned one. What are you buying now?

10-23-2001, 06:15 AM	#6
my240likenoother Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i bet he got the f*cking metia(spelling?)  LOL

10-23-2001, 07:41 AM	#7
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	er.... miata. no i dont know why i know that.....they're awesome...no who said that..........aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!! (curling up in a ball and shivering....)

10-25-2001, 02:09 PM	#8
JeffNJ Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's a good thing I came back when I did. Good lord, the rumors that could've flown. I did not, nor will I ever, buy the miata. I must admit, I have been swayed by the smaller convertibles though, and am very seriously considering a 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder. I havn't decided for certain yet, but it is the leading contender right now. Since I feel so loved, I'll definately keep you all posted. =) (Edited by JeffNJ at 4:35 pm on Oct. 25, 2001)

10-25-2001, 02:14 PM	#9
IceTekGuy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, don't ever down grade yourself... you NEVER go from a nissan to a toyota... thats just bad news. well, if you do get a toyota, may god bless your soul, and be carefull of parts flying off at unexpected times <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> :o

10-25-2001, 02:25 PM	#10
JeffNJ Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	See what I mean. It's so hard to look at non-Nissan cars and still hang out here. So, everyone, here's the thing. I want a convertible. I just do - I can't help myself. Now, I think I would be able to settle for a targa top or t-tops, but I would prefer a convertible. You've all heard it before. That said, the inherent problems with a convertible need to be adressed (and perhaps the 240 inparticular). - Weight. As a general rule, convertibles are heavier than their coupe equivilent. The roof's motors, and the frame's reinforcements are the chief causes of this. Weight, as we all know, is bad, inhibiting both acceleration and handling. - Rigidity. Even reinforced, convertibles still lack the same firmness only a roof can provide. I, however, would like to get by without a roof anyway. - Visability. Generally, cloth tops are less clear than hardtops; windows are either fewer, smaller, or both. Sometimes, they're even made of plastic. Blech. - Heat retention. This one should be obvious. Ok, the 240 convertible is so much heavier than a 240 hard top that it's 0-60 time differs from 7 seconds to 10. That's disgusting. The MR2 is roofless, and still scores a 7. Speaking of the MR2, it was also designed from the ground up to be a convertible, so it's rigidity was built in - unlike the lovely and beautiful 240, which is only lovely and beautiful in coupe and fastback form. Plus, being as small as it is (I hardly ever had passengers in the back of my 240 anyway), it's naturally firmer ... not to mention how quickly the closed cabin will heat up in the winter. Also, the rear window (unlike the 240) is made out of the marvelous material we all know and love: glass. Perhaps most importantly, I should also point this out. I can afford one. If anyone can keep everything above in mind and recommend something else, I would really like to hear your suggestions. Thanks so much.  =) (Edited by JeffNJ at 4:31 pm on Oct. 25, 2001)

10-25-2001, 02:44 PM	#11
groundzero Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 310 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jeff, Hey man I'm happy for you bro...In life you have to experience something new...Are you going to get your MR2 soon? If so, post your pic up on here...Take care, and thanks for all your help when I was asking for some advice...Laterz...

10-25-2001, 03:26 PM	#12
vancouvers14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've seen a really nice modded new mr2.  go for it.

10-25-2001, 03:48 PM	#13
AJ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 793 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mr2 are front wheel drive rn't they?..the new ones anyway......   ahhh i just can't imagine a front wheel drive car anymore...  i just want the ass to swing around,, can't help it....  i'll probably wreck and wish i had a front wheel drive car... but ####... when that day comes,, maybe i'll get one.   IF i got one... the mr2 would be a sweet choice, i love the new ones.  I've got a buddy who's older brother has one.. it handles like a freakin dream with the aftermarket susp. he has on it.  Good luck,, plus...  there is that build in cooler in the hood.   check that out and let me know how it works!  cops will nvr think to look there for ur beer!.. (r u 21?)

10-25-2001, 04:00 PM	#14
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mr. two's are pretty cool little cars...mid-engine RWD (AJ)...and even the newer ones have alot of potential.  I think SCC featured one a few months ago with something like 400hp.  That's crazy in a car that size.  It's a bit impractical with no back seat and a whole square foot of storage space, but if open air performance is all you want then I think the MR2 is a great choice.  It beat the Miata in almost all comparison tests I've seen.  And to IceTek, I'm pretty sure that overall Toyota is the most reliable vehicle manufacturer with Honda coming in a close second based on some study I read somewhere.  I can't remember where I saw it, though.

10-25-2001, 07:33 PM	#15
FastNissan Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 208 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is not a suggestion, but the C5 convertible actually weighs less than the coupe or hardtop. Sorry, but one of my roommates drives a built Corvette.