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**West** · 10-29-2004, 12:26 AM

They did the front end ok.... but they totaly fucked up the rear end of these cars. Dosent flow with the rest at all.

MakotoS13 · 10-29-2004, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightwalker

Fuckin 'rustangs suck. Why the heck did Ford decide to continue to use a live axle on it's signature Sports car. SPORTS CAR!!!

they listened to what people wanted and almost everyone WANTED to keep the liveaxle.

"it's not about what YOU like it's about the consumer." joe dirt

maybe they should listen to people that would never buy the car based on it being a ford but i don't think so.

nismo2491 · 10-29-2004, 10:46 AM

there are a couple of reasons they kept with liveaxle, and this is from a videoconference with some of the r/d team for the car so its accurate.
1) power holding. the live axle holds power from mods and stuff better than independent rear. look at what all the 03/04 cobra guys are doing, switching out to live axle.
2) cobra - the cobra gets the independent rear end
3) cost - they need to keep cost down. and the independent rear isn't the cheapest thing in the world

KEvin

old_s13 · 10-29-2004, 10:57 AM

IRS = handling
non IRS = drag racing

thats why. what appeals to us doesnt appeal to everyone in america... IN AMERICA

*crioten* · 10-29-2004, 11:39 AM

it just seems like the front and rear is just too BIG...looks like a plow on a train or something...

the other day i got to check out a v6 version (my buddy and i got done seeing team america, and parked next to his car was the '05 v6)

it seems like it would look a whole lot better lowered about an inch and a half (believe me, im not a fan of lowering cars for the hell of it)

WhiteNissanS13 · 10-29-2004, 11:49 AM

so we keep seeing pics of these 05 mustangs, always GT, Saleen, Roush. what about the Regular V6 mustang in weird pea green

Chernobyl · 10-29-2004, 01:53 PM

barf.

hey, does anyone know how the '05 live axle is mounted? Torque arm with panhard rod or what? Or is that awful 4-link from way back?

Nothing wrong with a live axle. Keeps the largest footpring on the ground at all times. You just have to make sure it doesn't bind under loading (like fox body stangs and first get rx7's).

nismo2491 · 10-29-2004, 02:02 PM

think its torque arm with panhard bar. I'll have to swing by the old dealership tomorrow and check it out.
KEvin

Chernobyl · 10-29-2004, 02:07 PM

yea let me know. I'm interested, but too lazy to even google it haha.

I see an 05 every day at the dealership by college. It looks like total ass, IMO.

I bet you can get a pretty sweet deal on a loaded '04 right now though...

90RS13 · 10-29-2004, 02:10 PM

I have to say I like it. I think they are one of the only companies that have done retro right.

MakotoS13 · 10-29-2004, 03:07 PM

i've always liked roush better than saleen. a trend that doesn't seem to have changed with this gen. the V6 stangs have been and always will look puny compared to the big brothers. that roush just looks... musclebound.

KoukiMonster · 10-29-2004, 05:15 PM

the body style that ford is using for the new saleen mustang, is the 67 GT500E...

nightwalker · 10-29-2004, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

they listened to what people wanted and almost everyone WANTED to keep the liveaxle.

"it's not about what YOU like it's about the consumer." joe dirt

maybe they should listen to people that would never buy the car based on it being a ford but i don't think so.

that's why they don't pick up new customers, and instead lose them to other car manufacturers.

MakotoS13 · 10-29-2004, 09:53 PM

if they don't pick up new customers why have mustang sales increased recently? riddle me that hotshot

nightwalker · 10-29-2004, 11:50 PM

statistics statistics. Anyone can make stats lie. You should know that. Plus, if you give them away, people will buy them. It's not like people are clamoring to wait in line to buy a 'rustang. Just visit your local Ford dealership. That shit might be hot for a couple months, but after that, it's just another rustang.

MakotoS13 · 10-30-2004, 01:06 AM

so they somehow magically decided that they're makin MORE in mustang sales than previous years by playing with statistics? dude, it isn't a scientific study with variables... just numbers.

but yeah, i guess nobody likes mustangs, that's why it's been around so long... i bet you're one of those people that thinks the C6 vette is just a C5.5 since the body style didn't drastically change.

too bad your mouth doesn't follow suite with your mind.

10-29-2004, 12:26 AM	#31
West OMNOMNOMNOM Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Denver, CO Age: 44 Posts: 6,456 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: West Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They did the front end ok.... but they totaly fucked up the rear end of these cars. Dosent flow with the rest at all. __________________ West - Zilvia.net - Toyobaru.net - NapkinSketch.com

10-29-2004, 10:46 AM	#33
nismo2491 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southern MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,373 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there are a couple of reasons they kept with liveaxle, and this is from a videoconference with some of the r/d team for the car so its accurate. 1) power holding. the live axle holds power from mods and stuff better than independent rear. look at what all the 03/04 cobra guys are doing, switching out to live axle. 2) cobra - the cobra gets the independent rear end 3) cost - they need to keep cost down. and the independent rear isn't the cheapest thing in the world KEvin __________________ To quote the great Ron White: if life gives you lemons, make lemonade. and try to find somebody who's life gave them vodka, and have a party

10-29-2004, 11:49 AM	#36
WhiteNissanS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: san diego, ca Age: 39 Posts: 619 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so we keep seeing pics of these 05 mustangs, always GT, Saleen, Roush. what about the Regular V6 mustang in weird pea green __________________

10-29-2004, 02:02 PM	#38
nismo2491 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southern MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,373 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	think its torque arm with panhard bar. I'll have to swing by the old dealership tomorrow and check it out. KEvin __________________ To quote the great Ron White: if life gives you lemons, make lemonade. and try to find somebody who's life gave them vodka, and have a party

10-29-2004, 02:10 PM	#40
90RS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2004 Location: Newark, Arkansas Age: 41 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have to say I like it. I think they are one of the only companies that have done retro right. __________________

10-29-2004, 10:57 AM	#34
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	IRS = handling non IRS = drag racing thats why. what appeals to us doesnt appeal to everyone in america... IN AMERICA

10-29-2004, 01:53 PM	#37
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 42 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	barf. hey, does anyone know how the '05 live axle is mounted? Torque arm with panhard rod or what? Or is that awful 4-link from way back? Nothing wrong with a live axle. Keeps the largest footpring on the ground at all times. You just have to make sure it doesn't bind under loading (like fox body stangs and first get rx7's).

10-29-2004, 02:07 PM	#39
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 42 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	yea let me know. I'm interested, but too lazy to even google it haha. I see an 05 every day at the dealership by college. It looks like total ass, IMO. I bet you can get a pretty sweet deal on a loaded '04 right now though...

10-29-2004, 03:07 PM	#41
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've always liked roush better than saleen. a trend that doesn't seem to have changed with this gen. the V6 stangs have been and always will look puny compared to the big brothers. that roush just looks... musclebound.

10-29-2004, 05:15 PM	#42
KoukiMonster Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ? Age: 39 Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the body style that ford is using for the new saleen mustang, is the 67 GT500E...

10-29-2004, 09:53 PM	#44
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if they don't pick up new customers why have mustang sales increased recently? riddle me that hotshot

10-29-2004, 11:50 PM	#45
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	statistics statistics. Anyone can make stats lie. You should know that. Plus, if you give them away, people will buy them. It's not like people are clamoring to wait in line to buy a 'rustang. Just visit your local Ford dealership. That shit might be hot for a couple months, but after that, it's just another rustang. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

10-30-2004, 01:06 AM	#46
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so they somehow magically decided that they're makin MORE in mustang sales than previous years by playing with statistics? dude, it isn't a scientific study with variables... just numbers. but yeah, i guess nobody likes mustangs, that's why it's been around so long... i bet you're one of those people that thinks the C6 vette is just a C5.5 since the body style didn't drastically change. too bad your mouth doesn't follow suite with your mind.

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