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ONYX S-13 · 10-05-2006, 01:16 PM

(Yes i searched for "Loose shifter" results are here --> http://www.zilvia.net/f/search.php?searchid=923165 .. The only thread that had a reply didn't help me at all ---> http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=Loose+shifter)

Here's a link to a video i took of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR09iK9LrxE

This happened last week... On the way home from work the shifter felt really weird to where fifth and 2nd gear felt like there was like a ton of jelly in it that was actually hindering it from going in.. The feeling is really Numb in those gears.. I was fooling around with it last night , and there is also play when i push it down (In towards the tranny), like how a lot of new VW/Audi trannys are to get into reverse.. When i push it in and then put it into gear it feels a lot more normal... Maybe something broke that normally forces it down..? I can drive on it fine, it just feels really numb and trying to shift fast (especially into 5th) = Mis-shift cause it's so numb that i don't know if it's in gear or not. =/

Bay_Area_sr20det · 10-05-2006, 03:42 PM

if you take your shifter out, you will be able to see whats wrong. the shifter sticks into a small round hole, bropably broke something in thare. maby the plastic thing on the end of the shifter.

to take the shifter off just use a snap ring tool.

DP_Michelle G · 10-05-2006, 04:50 PM

when i had my ka my shifter was like that turns out that it was a bad trans mount

slideways2004 · 10-05-2006, 04:57 PM

bad tranny mount. if your tranny mount is bad, most likely your motor mounts are bad too. so replace both at once and it will feel much moa bettah!

ONYX S-13 · 10-05-2006, 05:04 PM

Thanks.. I'll take a look at it and do some shopping around for some mounts.

Hmmm.. But what does the mount have to do with the shifter? (Sorry for the lame questoions.. just don't know much about tranny's)

redsuns3838 · 10-05-2006, 05:22 PM

just take off your shifter . (use some needle nose pliers) it takes 10 minutes and like someone said earlier u probly broke something down there and itll be aparent when you take out the shifter.

trsilvias13 · 10-05-2006, 06:27 PM

it can be bad tranny mounts because it either crack or wearing out. You have to push down to engage because the tranny mount is not holding ( the tranny mount is right below the tranny)

kandyflip445 · 10-05-2006, 07:36 PM

There is a round bushing at the bottom of the shifter that, if worn out, can cause play when shifting gears.

The jello sensation can be caused by worn tranny/engine mounts. Like when you start the car and at idle the shifter just wobbles. You can either buy new mounts/nismo, syko (sp?), cusco/ or you can fill them with some urethane. If you search around for filling mounts you can find a few write-ups on it.

LB.Motoring · 10-05-2006, 07:40 PM

Yah, its a plastic bushing Cup.

here its at the bottom, maybe it cracked. If so, then its no a metal ball, and your shift cup so it will feel sloppy, chk this, heres a pic at the very bottom in white.

hope this helps.. I remmber this from a while ago.

GL!

Bay_Area_sr20det · 10-05-2006, 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=LB.Motoring]Yah, its a plastic bushing Cup.

here its at the bottom, maybe it cracked. If so, then its no a metal ball, and your shift cup so it will feel sloppy, chk this, heres a pic at the very bottom in white.

ya thats exactly what i was talking about. thats probably it.

Bay_Area_sr20det · 10-05-2006, 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=LB.Motoring]Yah, its a plastic bushing Cup.

here its at the bottom, maybe it cracked. If so, then its no a metal ball, and your shift cup so it will feel sloppy, chk this, heres a pic at the very bottom in white.

ya thats exactly what i was talking about. thats probably it.

Flybert · 10-05-2006, 11:04 PM

You can also replace the springs on the side of the tranny below the shifter. Phase2 used to sell some that were made by HKS if I remember correctly. I also heard you can double up springs or put in your own that you find at home depot.

xxxH28 · 10-05-2006, 11:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH-qT6g-oGI&NR

kandyflip445 · 10-06-2006, 12:06 AM

Keep in mind if you install the new springs that when you put in a short shifter it will be even harder to move because of less leverage. When I installed my short shifter it was way harder until I drove around for awhile. And it is still stiffer than the stock now.

Bay_Area_sr20det · 10-06-2006, 02:58 AM

what springs, i want em! any clue what exactly thare called?

Bay_Area_sr20det · 10-06-2006, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxH28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH-qT6g-oGI&NR

MONEY!!! HAHAHA

kandyflip445 · 10-06-2006, 03:43 AM

http://storesense.megawebservers.com...ngs/Detail.bok

Link to the spring kit.

10-05-2006, 01:16 PM	#1
ONYX S-13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Laguna Niguel (O.C.) Posts: 1,301 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Shifter play (Very very sloppy) (Yes i searched for "Loose shifter" results are here --> http://www.zilvia.net/f/search.php?searchid=923165 .. The only thread that had a reply didn't help me at all ---> http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=Loose+shifter) Here's a link to a video i took of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR09iK9LrxE This happened last week... On the way home from work the shifter felt really weird to where fifth and 2nd gear felt like there was like a ton of jelly in it that was actually hindering it from going in.. The feeling is really Numb in those gears.. I was fooling around with it last night , and there is also play when i push it down (In towards the tranny), like how a lot of new VW/Audi trannys are to get into reverse.. When i push it in and then put it into gear it feels a lot more normal... Maybe something broke that normally forces it down..? I can drive on it fine, it just feels really numb and trying to shift fast (especially into 5th) = Mis-shift cause it's so numb that i don't know if it's in gear or not. =/

10-05-2006, 03:42 PM	#2
Bay_Area_sr20det Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Santa Cruz CA Age: 37 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you take your shifter out, you will be able to see whats wrong. the shifter sticks into a small round hole, bropably broke something in thare. maby the plastic thing on the end of the shifter. to take the shifter off just use a snap ring tool. __________________ Speed Kills, Drive A Honda Live Forever!

10-05-2006, 07:36 PM	#8
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	There is a round bushing at the bottom of the shifter that, if worn out, can cause play when shifting gears. The jello sensation can be caused by worn tranny/engine mounts. Like when you start the car and at idle the shifter just wobbles. You can either buy new mounts/nismo, syko (sp?), cusco/ or you can fill them with some urethane. If you search around for filling mounts you can find a few write-ups on it. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

10-05-2006, 07:40 PM	#9
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 38 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yah, its a plastic bushing Cup. here its at the bottom, maybe it cracked. If so, then its no a metal ball, and your shift cup so it will feel sloppy, chk this, heres a pic at the very bottom in white. hope this helps.. I remmber this from a while ago. GL! __________________ Robby Leuer

10-05-2006, 10:10 PM	#10
Bay_Area_sr20det Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Santa Cruz CA Age: 37 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	[QUOTE=LB.Motoring]Yah, its a plastic bushing Cup. here its at the bottom, maybe it cracked. If so, then its no a metal ball, and your shift cup so it will feel sloppy, chk this, heres a pic at the very bottom in white. ya thats exactly what i was talking about. thats probably it. __________________ Speed Kills, Drive A Honda Live Forever!

10-05-2006, 04:50 PM	#3
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 42 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	when i had my ka my shifter was like that turns out that it was a bad trans mount

10-05-2006, 04:57 PM	#4
slideways2004 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Age: 38 Posts: 1,706 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	bad tranny mount. if your tranny mount is bad, most likely your motor mounts are bad too. so replace both at once and it will feel much moa bettah!

10-05-2006, 05:04 PM	#5
ONYX S-13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Laguna Niguel (O.C.) Posts: 1,301 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks.. I'll take a look at it and do some shopping around for some mounts. Hmmm.. But what does the mount have to do with the shifter? (Sorry for the lame questoions.. just don't know much about tranny's)

10-05-2006, 05:22 PM	#6
redsuns3838 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: dog town Posts: 969 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just take off your shifter . (use some needle nose pliers) it takes 10 minutes and like someone said earlier u probly broke something down there and itll be aparent when you take out the shifter.

10-05-2006, 06:27 PM	#7
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,995 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	it can be bad tranny mounts because it either crack or wearing out. You have to push down to engage because the tranny mount is not holding ( the tranny mount is right below the tranny)

10-05-2006, 11:04 PM	#12
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	You can also replace the springs on the side of the tranny below the shifter. Phase2 used to sell some that were made by HKS if I remember correctly. I also heard you can double up springs or put in your own that you find at home depot.

10-05-2006, 11:31 PM	#13
xxxH28 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH-qT6g-oGI&NR

10-06-2006, 12:06 AM	#14
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Keep in mind if you install the new springs that when you put in a short shifter it will be even harder to move because of less leverage. When I installed my short shifter it was way harder until I drove around for awhile. And it is still stiffer than the stock now. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

10-06-2006, 02:58 AM	#15
Bay_Area_sr20det Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Santa Cruz CA Age: 37 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what springs, i want em! any clue what exactly thare called? __________________ Speed Kills, Drive A Honda Live Forever!

10-06-2006, 03:43 AM	#17
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	http://storesense.megawebservers.com...ngs/Detail.bok Link to the spring kit. __________________ My 240 vBgarage