Does Zilvia actually verfiy if Advertisers are legit?

[twisted_240]

ill chimei n too cause i know jonny boy and erik
iunno what the hell is going on but jon paik is a fuckin awesome guy
wouldnt scam no body, stand up champ

erik is a good guy too, im just not sure where the accusations are coming from

shitty spotlight to be put under for sure
id stand up for paikman anyday

[A Spec Products]

I'm not sure if you can still trace IP's from a deleted post, but easiest way is to take the "Axiom" Work Emotion deleted post, and trace the IP on the poster.

If the poster's IP matches Axiom's shop, then obviously it wasn't a "fired employee."

If the poster's IP matches Paikman, then he did it.

Otherwise everyone is just making assumptions and accusations.

I can vouch for Paikman though, he has always been very legit with me (on a business and personal level) and never struck me as a untrustworthy person.

Also, he is known in the 240sx community and has been around for a while, and his knowledge base is a lot larger than from what the poster did. I even sent a PM because the original Advan TC post had the wrong sizing (that Advan never made) and I nicely helped them out. Didn't get a reply or even a thank you, which made me very skeptical as to if they even had those wheels.

Driftin_180sx, who are you? Interesting that you are from WA and have 2 posts, which are to blast Paikman.

Also, to teamsprock and samplesurf, what paypal address did you send the money to? Can't you see the Paypal account's confirmed owner/address?

The reason I take interest in this is because I'm sick and tired of our industry getting dragged under the bus, and customers being immediately cynical of shops due to fraud.

[paikman]

Hey guys, I just had someone stop by Axiom as well, go ahead and call, Kyle knows it's NOT me.
so i don't really take back any kyle bashing and i don't know what's exactly going on,
but LEAVE ME OUT OF THIS.
guys , i feel for you though, i have been scammed myself before.

[teamsprock]

I did not start this post as a place to point fingers and speculate as to who did this, I was simply trying to raise awareness of this type of stuff and hopefing to get facts on who the seller might be.

Here are the facts that I have, the email address that I sent the money to was [email protected] and the user name that shows up on the paypal account is Yunie Kim.

[paikman]

teamsprock and the others who actually were scammed :
I apologize for threadjacking, but when someone makes a direct and clear link between me and this situation I needed to tell the truth, sorry for that.
Strange the person used a hotmail addy, that's kind of a ringer that it's not directly linked to the company which should have their own hosting for email....

[GSXRJJordan]

OMG, I'm famous!

No, but seriously, I was worried when I was talkin to Jon about buyin the coils, cause it was a better deal than I'd seen ANYWHERE and that was more than I paid for my shell, or my SR, or my audio, etc. Anyway, I called Axiom and they gave me a run-around, finally said he was 'selling those on his own or something', and I got a little more worried - then I did get him on the phone and figured if something goes wrong I could head up to Axiom and mess someone up, and call it a day.

But alas, he pwned online selling - lots of email contact, a legit tracking number, and as the post says, the items were pristine ~ that shop on the other hand, gave the creeps via telephone. *Forrest Gump* And that's all I have to say about thaaaat.

[A Spec Products]

Originally Posted by teamsprock

I did not start this post as a place to point fingers and speculate as to who did this, I was simply trying to raise awareness of this type of stuff and hopefing to get facts on who the seller might be.

Here are the facts that I have, the email address that I sent the money to was [email protected] and the user name that shows up on the paypal account is Yunie Kim.

Yeah, samplesurf didn't get his money back yet though right?

I'd be pretty wary of the hotmail emails as Paikman said. Any legitimate shop should at LEAST have a domain, but then again even that doesn't mean that they won't scam you.

Hope everyone gets their money back and karma serves the would be scammer.

[samplesurf]

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

Yeah, samplesurf didn't get his money back yet though right?

I'd be pretty wary of the hotmail emails as Paikman said. Any legitimate shop should at LEAST have a domain, but then again even that doesn't mean that they won't scam you.

Hope everyone gets their money back and karma serves the would be scammer.

correct im still waiting to see what is goin on with my money, and paypal is bein pretty bitchy about it too my claim is now deferred.....and i havent gotten a clear explanation of what that means

[Flybert]

Originally Posted by samplesurf

correct im still waiting to see what is goin on with my money, and paypal is bein pretty bitchy about it too my claim is now deferred.....and i havent gotten a clear explanation of what that means

Always pay with credit card. Never use a debit card or a bank transfer. Tell your credit card that you never got the wheels and they'll hold paypal responsible and get your money the same day. This is the reason why paypal doesn't like people using CC's and asks if they are sure that they want this to be their payment option right when you change it to CC payment.

[paikman]

Originally Posted by driftin_180sx

Well i maybe wrong here. There may have been some confusion with what was going on. But there some odd things with the pics of the wheels. I know this is not in jons personality. He is not some one that would rip some one off, he is just kind of lazy. That is why i found it odd. I am sorry if i jumped to conclusions. I think that the best thing to do is do an isp search.

Erik

Ok now u changed ur post.
Im fucking lazy?
You know how many 70 hr weeks I put down last year? continuously? Fuckin a dude. You should just shut up.
and you definetely fucked Doug out of one of the coolest builds there is going to be in the NW.