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MyFirst240SX · 01-19-2002, 08:01 PM

Would it be possiple to hook a leaf blower up to the intake and use that to blow air into the engine from the out side? Would the ECU just put less fuel into the engine to make up for it?

my240likenoother · 01-19-2002, 08:05 PM

chickenmanq · 01-19-2002, 08:10 PM

Unfortunately, basic physics deny this possibility.  You can't get more work out than you put in.  The amount of power to need to run the leaf blower will negate any possible increase with the air boost.  Plus, your computer is still only going to allow so much air to come in.  Bottom line, it won't work.  Saw a guy do it before though.

MyFirst240SX · 01-19-2002, 08:13 PM

I had this idea before and this rich guy let me do it to his mustang(V6) i wasn't there to hook it on but from what i felt a little more powerful. but i wasn't there so i dont know. hmmm there goes my 50 dollar supercharger ####

NoTuchn · 01-19-2002, 09:01 PM

nope, not gonna work.

*DSC* · 01-19-2002, 09:41 PM

I don't think a leaf blower could put out enough air for your engine, It can "suck" a lot more than a leaf blower could give it I'm pretty sure.

01-19-2002, 11:15 PM

what about those air compressors like at the gas station people use to inflate their tires.

*DSC* · 01-19-2002, 11:30 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Niseslut on 11:15 pm on Jan. 19, 2002
what about those air compressors like at the gas station people use to inflate their tires. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Naw, think of how long it take to inflate a tire with one of those, compare that to a hairdryer spinning at 10,000 rpm :o

Nismos14 · 01-20-2002, 09:27 AM

some crazy stuff we're talkin about here LoL i dun think any of it could work so...... too bad fellas.... no cheap forced induction <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Impact · 01-20-2002, 09:39 AM

Haha plus it would look fugly under the hood...

Nismos14 · 01-20-2002, 09:47 AM

lol i dunno how the #### u would wanna show that off to ANYONE let alone ur mechanic he'd probably have a fit and laugh his ass off after his heart attack.

alchemist · 01-20-2002, 10:20 AM

well what about a gas powered blower....essentially like a supercharger, but powered via another engine and not a belt.

tnord · 01-20-2002, 10:28 AM

i'm going to have to disagree with you guys.......to a point, here's what i think would happen:

idling-about 3/4 throttle-wouldn't work, as stated before the ECU will just close the butterfly valve some to compensate for the extra air

WOT-here's where it might work, butterfly valve is completely open, hairdryer or whatever is blowing extra air in, and hopefully the ECU would detect this and spit some more fuel into the combustion chamber, more air/more fuel=more power

if you really wanted to find out if it works, rig up whatever you want to use, and wire a toggle switch into the car, and during WOT switch it on and off to see if you feel any difference, or take it to a dyno and try it, though you would be subject to constant ridicule

Nismos14 · 01-20-2002, 10:37 AM

yea but if it orked i'd think some people would respect it....... not me i just want a 5-spd that would make my car so much more fun

chickenmanq · 01-20-2002, 11:04 AM

No, no and double no.  IT'S A LEAF BLOWER!!  How okie are we going to get? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  Just put a cold air intake tube toward your fender.  At speeds, the air force generated there is probably 10 times what the leaf blower could provide.  THink of it this way.

Stick your hand in front of the leaf blower.  Observe the effect.

Then, stick your hand out the window of your car doing 60.  I think you'll find the leaf blower is a worthless idea.

*ca18guy* · 01-20-2002, 11:20 AM

Chicken Man is right. A leaf blower does'nt have enough air flow to make a difference in intake pressure. If you put a boost gauge on and tried it you probably would'nt get any boost.  You have to understand a turbo flows alot of air, they are turning at 70,000+ rpm's!!!  Not to mention it would probably interfer with air flow more then it would help, and were the #### you gonna fit one?

Nismos14 · 01-20-2002, 11:25 AM

LoL ca18guy ..... thats what i was wondering where the #### u gonna put that thing?? LoL

tnord · 01-20-2002, 01:50 PM

i have seen pictures and read about people who did it, i made no claims that this was a good idea, just that it did have the potential to produce positive results

MyFirst240SX · 01-20-2002, 07:40 PM

Gas powered leaf blowers make alot of power. if you could somehow mount it infront of the radiator and have it shooting air straight to throttle body, or maybe two leaf blowers. i dont know how u would figure out how to control the leaf blowers tho.

MyFirst240SX · 01-20-2002, 07:49 PM

i forget about the MAF hmmm

01-19-2002, 08:05 PM	#2
my240likenoother Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lmao

01-19-2002, 08:01 PM	#1
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would it be possiple to hook a leaf blower up to the intake and use that to blow air into the engine from the out side? Would the ECU just put less fuel into the engine to make up for it?

01-19-2002, 08:10 PM	#3
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Unfortunately, basic physics deny this possibility.  You can't get more work out than you put in.  The amount of power to need to run the leaf blower will negate any possible increase with the air boost.  Plus, your computer is still only going to allow so much air to come in.  Bottom line, it won't work.  Saw a guy do it before though.

01-19-2002, 08:13 PM	#4
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had this idea before and this rich guy let me do it to his mustang(V6) i wasn't there to hook it on but from what i felt a little more powerful. but i wasn't there so i dont know. hmmm there goes my 50 dollar supercharger ####

01-19-2002, 09:01 PM	#5
NoTuchn Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nope, not gonna work.

01-19-2002, 09:41 PM	#6
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't think a leaf blower could put out enough air for your engine, It can "suck" a lot more than a leaf blower could give it I'm pretty sure.

01-19-2002, 11:15 PM	#7
Guest Posts: n/a	what about those air compressors like at the gas station people use to inflate their tires.

01-19-2002, 11:30 PM	#8
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Niseslut on 11:15 pm on Jan. 19, 2002 what about those air compressors like at the gas station people use to inflate their tires. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Naw, think of how long it take to inflate a tire with one of those, compare that to a hairdryer spinning at 10,000 rpm :o

01-20-2002, 09:27 AM	#9
Nismos14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 1,213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	some crazy stuff we're talkin about here LoL i dun think any of it could work so...... too bad fellas.... no cheap forced induction <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

01-20-2002, 09:39 AM	#10
Impact Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 125 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Haha plus it would look fugly under the hood...

01-20-2002, 09:47 AM	#11
Nismos14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 1,213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol i dunno how the #### u would wanna show that off to ANYONE let alone ur mechanic he'd probably have a fit and laugh his ass off after his heart attack.

01-20-2002, 10:20 AM	#12
alchemist Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 192 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well what about a gas powered blower....essentially like a supercharger, but powered via another engine and not a belt.

01-20-2002, 10:28 AM	#13
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm going to have to disagree with you guys.......to a point, here's what i think would happen: idling-about 3/4 throttle-wouldn't work, as stated before the ECU will just close the butterfly valve some to compensate for the extra air WOT-here's where it might work, butterfly valve is completely open, hairdryer or whatever is blowing extra air in, and hopefully the ECU would detect this and spit some more fuel into the combustion chamber, more air/more fuel=more power if you really wanted to find out if it works, rig up whatever you want to use, and wire a toggle switch into the car, and during WOT switch it on and off to see if you feel any difference, or take it to a dyno and try it, though you would be subject to constant ridicule

01-20-2002, 10:37 AM	#14
Nismos14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 1,213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea but if it orked i'd think some people would respect it....... not me i just want a 5-spd that would make my car so much more fun

01-20-2002, 11:04 AM	#15
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No, no and double no.  IT'S A LEAF BLOWER!!  How okie are we going to get? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  Just put a cold air intake tube toward your fender.  At speeds, the air force generated there is probably 10 times what the leaf blower could provide.  THink of it this way. Stick your hand in front of the leaf blower.  Observe the effect. Then, stick your hand out the window of your car doing 60.  I think you'll find the leaf blower is a worthless idea.

01-20-2002, 11:20 AM	#16
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Chicken Man is right. A leaf blower does'nt have enough air flow to make a difference in intake pressure. If you put a boost gauge on and tried it you probably would'nt get any boost.  You have to understand a turbo flows alot of air, they are turning at 70,000+ rpm's!!!  Not to mention it would probably interfer with air flow more then it would help, and were the #### you gonna fit one?

01-20-2002, 11:25 AM	#17
Nismos14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 1,213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LoL ca18guy ..... thats what i was wondering where the #### u gonna put that thing?? LoL

01-20-2002, 01:50 PM	#18
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have seen pictures and read about people who did it, i made no claims that this was a good idea, just that it did have the potential to produce positive results

01-20-2002, 07:40 PM	#19
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Gas powered leaf blowers make alot of power. if you could somehow mount it infront of the radiator and have it shooting air straight to throttle body, or maybe two leaf blowers. i dont know how u would figure out how to control the leaf blowers tho.

01-20-2002, 07:49 PM	#20
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i forget about the MAF hmmm