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Strider · 09-25-2001, 12:22 AM

Could I make my 90 240sx AWD, not 50:50, but 30:70? is that possible and if so what do i have to do and how much will it cost?

Strider

vancouvers14 · 09-25-2001, 12:58 AM

anything is possible, but bring cash, and lots of it...

PSI240SX · 09-25-2001, 08:25 AM

My sentiments exactly, I have read on a BB somewhere that a guy was close to completing his 240sx, he had a full RB26DETT (Skyline) drivetrain in it, including the AWD. Dont remember where i saw it but I know it was expensive.

09-27-2001, 01:40 PM

jeez can u guys imagine how are cars would be AWD? with a lil more power and all wheel drive OMFG! they'd be sick!

**West** · 09-27-2001, 02:06 PM

I pondred on the Idea of putting a tranny off one of the 4wd KA trucks. but then with all the work for a crappy tranny and an extra 500lbs er so isnt worth it. I love my RWD <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

vancouvers14 · 09-27-2001, 06:17 PM

i agree.  in most cases, the extra weight negates all the gains.  you really have to have a high hp car to pull off awd.  

my240likenoother · 09-27-2001, 06:44 PM

i say if you have the money and knolage to do it than go for it that would be nasty

S13Grl · 09-29-2001, 08:22 AM

I say you buy an S13 for a grand and play with it.

mike240 · 01-18-2002, 03:35 AM

Well why is it that an Eclipse GS-X will spank a 240 WITH a lightly modded SR20DET, AND the Eclipse weighs some few hundred pounds more?  

thewholefnshow · 01-18-2002, 06:39 AM

And most people don't understand the rigours of driving an AWD... I am not nuts about it, and at motoX I have seen more awd talons, eclipses go off the road than anything. People don't know how to drive them when they start to drift, and it is a lot more weight. You are talking at least an extra 50hp to get the same type of performance. So much extra crap and linkage to go through. If you had a fwd and wanted to convert... sure. But you already have it right! Race cars are rwd... not awd, that should tell you something... We are already alright!

MyFirst240SX · 01-19-2002, 09:09 PM

Lets see a GSX eclispe spank a 240 with a SR20DET on a top end freeway race or race from 35 mph, i dont think so.

NoTuchn · 01-19-2002, 09:22 PM

hypothetically:  

gsx's can only beat 240's w/ sr20's because they hook up off the line so much better... high end the 240 would win hands down.

MyFirst240SX · 01-19-2002, 09:29 PM

Its just like People in the DSM world.  people Buy the GS-T's becuase that top out better and quicker. People buy the AWD's becasue they shoot out like a bat out of ####

chickenmanq · 01-19-2002, 10:55 PM

While I love RWD, AWD is certainly something to consider.  It gets better traction to the ground, it's faster, and goes in snow a helluva lot easier.  Food for thought:

If you take a RWD car and an AWD car and race them around the same track, the RWD will lead for a while.  However, after a few laps, the AWD will pass the RWD simply because it is pushing AND pulling, while the RWD is only pushing.  

The only reason people go off the road with AWD is because they don't know how to drive with AWD.  A lot of my buddies have Subis back home and they rally the piss out of them.  I haven't had an AWD car break traction yet with a decent driver.  It's downright hard.

*SaintlyCharBoy* · 01-19-2002, 11:11 PM

first, i always thought that the beauty of the 240 was the near 50/50 weight distrobution, wouldn't the transfercase and added drivetrain completely screw that in the @$$?

also, i must agree, scubis are #### cool, but i know they have a viscous setup that makes them 60/40 power front and rear respectively, and htey REALLY ARE wonderful, but a lot of thought and years of design got them where they are now, i am not sure a conversion (no matter how well done) can boast the same

sorry about the length... venting
Sean

pinoy nismo · 01-20-2002, 04:07 AM

if its true that awd is faster than a rwd in a race, why does the r34 skyline that run in jgtc japan converted the awd configuration to rwd altough the rulling says that they can run the original awd setup.whats the reason for this? im a bit confused.

Nismos14 · 01-20-2002, 09:32 AM

if u throw the right engine in there and get the awd setup u'd be havin some great fun im sure.... i can only imagine however the weight distribution would be all f'ed up

09-25-2001, 12:22 AM	#1
Strider Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal, Corona Posts: 461 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Could I make my 90 240sx AWD, not 50:50, but 30:70? is that possible and if so what do i have to do and how much will it cost? Strider

09-25-2001, 12:58 AM	#2
vancouvers14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	anything is possible, but bring cash, and lots of it...

09-25-2001, 08:25 AM	#3
PSI240SX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Gunshine State Age: 50 Posts: 843 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My sentiments exactly, I have read on a BB somewhere that a guy was close to completing his 240sx, he had a full RB26DETT (Skyline) drivetrain in it, including the AWD. Dont remember where i saw it but I know it was expensive.

09-27-2001, 01:40 PM	#4
Guest Posts: n/a	jeez can u guys imagine how are cars would be AWD? with a lil more power and all wheel drive OMFG! they'd be sick!

09-27-2001, 02:06 PM	#5
West OMNOMNOMNOM Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Denver, CO Age: 44 Posts: 6,456 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: West Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I pondred on the Idea of putting a tranny off one of the 4wd KA trucks. but then with all the work for a crappy tranny and an extra 500lbs er so isnt worth it. I love my RWD <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

09-27-2001, 06:17 PM	#6
vancouvers14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i agree.  in most cases, the extra weight negates all the gains.  you really have to have a high hp car to pull off awd.

09-27-2001, 06:44 PM	#7
my240likenoother Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i say if you have the money and knolage to do it than go for it that would be nasty

09-29-2001, 08:22 AM	#8
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I say you buy an S13 for a grand and play with it.

01-18-2002, 03:35 AM	#9
mike240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well why is it that an Eclipse GS-X will spank a 240 WITH a lightly modded SR20DET, AND the Eclipse weighs some few hundred pounds more?

01-18-2002, 06:39 AM	#10
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	And most people don't understand the rigours of driving an AWD... I am not nuts about it, and at motoX I have seen more awd talons, eclipses go off the road than anything. People don't know how to drive them when they start to drift, and it is a lot more weight. You are talking at least an extra 50hp to get the same type of performance. So much extra crap and linkage to go through. If you had a fwd and wanted to convert... sure. But you already have it right! Race cars are rwd... not awd, that should tell you something... We are already alright!

01-19-2002, 09:09 PM	#11
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Lets see a GSX eclispe spank a 240 with a SR20DET on a top end freeway race or race from 35 mph, i dont think so.

01-19-2002, 09:22 PM	#12
NoTuchn Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hypothetically:   gsx's can only beat 240's w/ sr20's because they hook up off the line so much better... high end the 240 would win hands down.

01-19-2002, 09:29 PM	#13
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its just like People in the DSM world.  people Buy the GS-T's becuase that top out better and quicker. People buy the AWD's becasue they shoot out like a bat out of ####

01-19-2002, 10:55 PM	#14
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	While I love RWD, AWD is certainly something to consider.  It gets better traction to the ground, it's faster, and goes in snow a helluva lot easier.  Food for thought: If you take a RWD car and an AWD car and race them around the same track, the RWD will lead for a while.  However, after a few laps, the AWD will pass the RWD simply because it is pushing AND pulling, while the RWD is only pushing.   The only reason people go off the road with AWD is because they don't know how to drive with AWD.  A lot of my buddies have Subis back home and they rally the piss out of them.  I haven't had an AWD car break traction yet with a decent driver.  It's downright hard.

01-19-2002, 11:11 PM	#15
SaintlyCharBoy Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bow, NH Age: 43 Posts: 849 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	first, i always thought that the beauty of the 240 was the near 50/50 weight distrobution, wouldn't the transfercase and added drivetrain completely screw that in the @$$? also, i must agree, scubis are #### cool, but i know they have a viscous setup that makes them 60/40 power front and rear respectively, and htey REALLY ARE wonderful, but a lot of thought and years of design got them where they are now, i am not sure a conversion (no matter how well done) can boast the same sorry about the length... venting Sean

01-20-2002, 04:07 AM	#16
pinoy nismo Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if its true that awd is faster than a rwd in a race, why does the r34 skyline that run in jgtc japan converted the awd configuration to rwd altough the rulling says that they can run the original awd setup.whats the reason for this? im a bit confused.

01-20-2002, 09:32 AM	#17
Nismos14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 1,213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if u throw the right engine in there and get the awd setup u'd be havin some great fun im sure.... i can only imagine however the weight distribution would be all f'ed up