92 Skyline GTS

[NINJAS14]

Im freaked out about posting this because of all the flaming going on in this forum but here it is. I have a 1992 Nissan Skyline r32 GTS-T. It is not registered and has 60000kilometers on the odometer. It is clean inside and out. Has fully adjustable coilovers. And I beleive that is just about it. It is not registered.
I am looking at 12500obo.

[yokotas13]

so let me get this right

non registered
no turbo
and you want 12gs?

ill be polite and say good luck with the sale

[keroto]

Originally Posted by yokotas13

so let me get this right

non registered
no turbo
and you want 12gs?

ill be polite and say good luck with the sale

agree with u, GL with the sale!!!!

[liv2drift045]

im pretty sure its a type m... unless thats a voltmeter gauge on the dash haha

gl w/ sale man

[b4racing]

it may be cheaper in japan, but you would have to think about the other costs involved.

[keroto]

Originally Posted by b4racing

it may be cheaper in japan, but you would have to think about the other costs involved.

but still, do u think its still worth 12k(non registered and no turbo)?

[gun]

i'd give you close to your asking price if you had that thing registered, but that won't happen. try talking to Kendall Noble at Fast 4 wheels and see what he can do, he may be able to help register it, but for the most part, that thing'll never be legal. too bad i was looking for a 32 gts too

[NINJAS14]

UMMMM...... It is turbo.

[NINJAS14]

I never tried to register it. I have a registered s15 And Im just trying to get rid of the skyline now. I do not want to go through registering this thing too. In other words It definately can be registered.

[NINJAS14]

GTS-t means it is a rear wheel drive turbo.

[RoyalFlush]

you didnt put the 't' to start with, look at your title genious. and then you edited your post

[liv2drift045]

Originally Posted by RoyalFlush

you didnt put the 't' to start with, look at your title genious. and then you edited your post

roflmao.... late edit ftl

[S13Leprechaun]

well in the description it says gts-t... title aint shit homes.
sweet skyline btw... bump!

[hrg86]

Originally Posted by NINJAS14

I never tried to register it. I have a registered s15 And Im just trying to get rid of the skyline now. I do not want to go through registering this thing too. In other words It definately can be registered.

lol smartasses gts-"T" mens
rwd turbo...
if i had the $$$$ i would take it off youre hand in a minetO!
GL on the sale!
nice car...

[keroto]

Originally Posted by hrg86

lol smartasses gts-"T" mens
rwd turbo...
if i had the $$$$ i would take it off youre hand in a minetO!
GL on the sale!
nice car...

"if" everyone has the $$$$$ on here, they will take it off his hand in a sec. so no if.....if......if.......if i have money i will buy all the skyline.....if i had the $$$$$$....if......

[s13rookie]

Originally Posted by keroto

"if" everyone has the $$$$$ on here, they will take it off his hand in a sec. so no if.....if......if.......if i have money i will buy all the skyline.....if i had the $$$$$$....if......

Could you please explain that? I dont speak moron.

[s13rookie]

Originally Posted by xpl2007

Anyway its sick what is it a 26 or a 20? RWD AWD?

its not a rb26, i think the r32 gts-t came with a rb20 (edit: i was wrong). its rwd though

[xpl2007]

Yes very good but Japanese swap 26s all day long so.... Thanks!

[Jung918]

Originally Posted by xpl2007

Anyway its sick what is it a 26 or a 20? RWD AWD?
That makes a big diffrence. Anyone who complains about a ILLEGAL car being not registered is a idiot. With that price though i think even with a 26 its $10,000 at the most... LEt me know intrested...
[email protected]
its like when i sold my 92 Silvia KS guy is like how do i get insurance...lol!!

If you don't even know if it is a 26/20 or if it is RWD/AWD, then how do you even know the value of the car? You must have some crazy appraisal skills.

[silverarrow27]

Mods should temporarily ban or do something to all the shit talkers.

[motoman6968]

yea i know whats with people who grow balls by sitting at a computer. those kind of people really piss me off. dude i hope you sell this car for what your asking just to piss them off, if I hadnt already invested 15k in my own 240 I would have sold it and bought your gts-t GL.....bump

[NINJAS14]

The R32 mentioned in my origional post is a rear wheel drive with an RB20DE-T. I also have a RB25DET (motor only) that I can include for an extra $1000. The RB25 is a direct drop-in with no modifactions needed (it runs off the same ecu and harness as rb20det). Please pm me if you are a serious buyer. Thank you for your time.

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally Posted by S13Leprechaun

well in the description it says gts-t... title aint shit homes.
sweet skyline btw... bump!

Says so NOW because he edited his post.

Silver - there's a big difference between stating facts and shit-talking.

1. OP posted it as a GTS. Period.
2. A Skyline GTS is RWD, RB20DE powered, 4 lug, and worthless.
3. A Skyline GTS-t is RWD, RB20DET powered, 5 lug, and slightly less worthless.
4. There is a LARGE profit margin in this price.
5. I just stopped myself from providing examples of why #4 is true, no need to thank me.

Everyone else, if you don't feel like gouging your eyes out looking at a stupid thread or want to buy anything here, just move on.
Remember what your mom always used to say: "If you don't have anything nice to say, stab them in the fucking neck."

Hmm... I think that's what she used to say. I don't remember much from before the institution.

[NINJAS14]

Im sure you've imported a bunch of cars from japan. So you must really know how much it costs to get it over here. I bet you Can't even import a car i you tried. You don't even know what bringing a car over consists of. How can you say there is a lot of money to be made. I think Im selling this skyline for cheap. This is almost at my cost. Even a 3000 dollar car in japan your looking to spend about 10g's total to bring it over. And I'll even show you how
-first you have to buy the car
-then you have to take it to the shipping company
-It is illegal to ship over registered cars so the cars registeration has to be destroyed, Some how. (with money)
-also whole cars cannot be imported either unless you can sneak it in with toyotas, nissan,or hondas shipments.
-but we actually bring it in as a parts car.
-so we also have to pay for a shop in japan to pull the motor and doors off, Now I do not have a connection on mechanics in japan so I pay the full amount for that.
Now even with the engine out and doors off It will not pass inspection. The inspectors in japan has to be payed off just so that it can be off on its way back to america.

Yes this is already a lot of money spent.
but then we havent even started on the shipping yet.
The going rate on a container that fits a single car is 3000+ for shipping
and then you have to account in for tax in japan. And its a very wierd tax but your looking at like another 1500.(some kind of import tax)




In other words stfu, you don know wat your talking about. L

[osus14]

what if you get it shipped to canada or mexico? it be alot cheaper wouldn't it?

[love_free_robots]

importing a car here is kind of a big deal ..save yourself the headache and buy one thats already here. i think 12500 is reasonable for a starting point.

[NINJAS14]

Its getting it out of japan that is a problem, once we get it out of there then I can ship it anywhere I want.

[liv2drift045]

Originally Posted by NINJAS14

Im sure you've imported a bunch of cars from japan. So you must really know how much it costs to get it over here. I bet you Can't even import a car i you tried. You don't even know what bringing a car over consists of. How can you say there is a lot of money to be made. I think Im selling this skyline for cheap. This is almost at my cost. Even a 3000 dollar car in japan your looking to spend about 10g's total to bring it over. And I'll even show you how
-first you have to buy the car
-then you have to take it to the shipping company
-It is illegal to ship over registered cars so the cars registeration has to be destroyed, Some how. (with money)
-also whole cars cannot be imported either unless you can sneak it in with toyotas, nissan,or hondas shipments.
-but we actually bring it in as a parts car.
-so we also have to pay for a shop in japan to pull the motor and doors off, Now I do not have a connection on mechanics in japan so I pay the full amount for that.
Now even with the engine out and doors off It will not pass inspection. The inspectors in japan has to be payed off just so that it can be off on its way back to america.

Yes this is already a lot of money spent.
but then we havent even started on the shipping yet.
The going rate on a container that fits a single car is 3000+ for shipping
and then you have to account in for tax in japan. And its a very wierd tax but your looking at like another 1500.(some kind of import tax)




In other words stfu, you don know wat your talking about. L

Are you fuckin kidding me. Who the hell do you think you are. Especially with states ments such as:

Originally Posted by NINJAS14

It is illegal to ship over registered cars so the cars registeration has to be destroyed, Some how. (with money)

And he doesn't know what he's talking about?! I'm willing to bet we (me and kevin alone) have deregistered more cars here [japan] than you've owned in your lifetime, and it doesn't take much money. So take that out of your equation.
Most of your facts are straight, but trying to sound like your an authority on importing cars is the wrong way to go. GET OVER YOURSELF.

Plain and simple the car is not worth what you want for it and that's not just an opinion thats a fact. So you aren't making much money by selling it/your eating part of the cost. That's what you get for buying a 2.0 skyline.

I said GL w/ sale earlier in this post, but now seeing the kinda guy you are I could really give a flying---.
have a nice day

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally Posted by NINJAS14

In other words stfu, you don know wat your talking about. L

Excellent attitude to have. I like how although I refrained from completely shutting you down and warned others to stay out of your thread, you show your gratitude by be a jerk.

Since I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about, none of what I 'know' must be factual, so given that, it won't hurt the sale of your car.
That being the case, I'm going to lay it ALL out for you (and your potential customers).

First: initial cost of the car.

Stock, AT, no wheels, ¥50000 - will probably end between ¥80000-100000 (<$900)
Mostly stock with a few mods - BUY NOW for $1560
Lowered, exhaust, wheels GT-R face - BUY NOW for ~$2175
Stock/lowered/exhaust This will end up selling for ~$1900. The price listed is basically what they want, hence the long time left on the auction.
For clarity's sake, THIS is a GTS. 4 lug, RB20DE, worthless.
Now THIS is closer to being worth $12k in the US. TommyKaira M20.

So, that car was probably sold here for $1000-1500, MAX.

Now to get a car to the US, there's a few ways to do it, but the way you're likely going is they grey-market approach. It's technically illegal to do it how you're doing it, but intent must be proven so it's a fairly viable route.

Anyway, you've got to deregister a car first, so I'll use one of the BUY NOW cars as an example. Let's go with the one with the GT-R face for $2175. Now, shipping in Japan will probably cost me $500 so let's add that on.

$2675.

You have it shipped to a dismantler shop who removes engine, doors, and both front & rear subframes. While this is taking place, you can take the plates into the Land Transportation Office and deregister the car. This costs ~$15, and if JCI/Road Tax/Weight tax are current, you get some money back. Radical. Let's just say we got $15 so the cost evens out.

Now let's add $500 for processing by the dismantler.

$3175

Then you order your container. Let's say you go the expensive route and get one 20' container for the car, and nothing else. That alone is $3k.

$6175

So the container comes and you load it up. Now contrary to the fairy tale (whoops I mean 'ACTUAL FACT') that you mentioned, there are no inspectors to get the shipment by, whether by magic or by bribery. Just like the registration doesn't have to be 'destroyed, somehow (with money)'.
If ANYTHING, they'll simply log the contents of the container and send it off to its ship. So long as you're not marking it 'human cargo/sex slaves bound for North Korea/etc' they don't really give a shit.
Now it goes to the boat and floats around the ocean for a few months.

Now the boat has arrived at Long Beach harbor, and your container must clear customs. Now since you sent the shipment as 'used parts', you have to pay 3% tax on everything you have in the container. Neat part there is that you get to determine your own value. Let's say you went with actual value, so $2175. That's $65.25, so let's round that to $100.

$6275
Now that it's cleared customs (you filthy liar!) and you've paid your import fees, you're ready to receive the container, so you hire Joe's trucking to bring it to you. Let's call that an extra $500.

$6775

Joe brings the container himself, and leaves it for a day while you offload it. Let's say that's a $100 fee.

$6875.

Now you and your goons offload the container of all the parts, bring them back into your garage/shop/camping tent/dumpster, and start assembling.

Let's say you need $125 worth of stuff to get the car back together and running.
$7000

Now let's add in some magical fairytale bribes along the way, along with some extra hidden costs for $3k.
Now markup $2k and you're at $12k.

Hey rad! We're ready to sell. Now to find a sucker who's willing to buy a grey market car they can't register legally (except in Canada) and can't insure without lying about it.

As you can see, I took the most expensive route in every way I could and I STILL had to make up $3k worth of bullshit fees.

There are shipping companies that will ship entire cars to the US for $1500. There's some flubbing to be done, for sure but it's way cheaper. You could also get a 40' container for less cost per square foot, and ship 2 cars plus a few hundred cubic feet of room to throw parts in. That route would run you ~$5-6k or so, but then you get 2 cars across, and a bunch of parts to sell.

I could probably get an R32 to the states for $3k after all is said and done, and since I'm not going to buy an expensive one here, My all-in cost will be <$5k. Yay for $7k profit.

I was playing nice and didn't want to ruin your chance for a sale, but you decided to be a dick and threw it in my face with your 'superior knowledge'.
You want to kick sand in my face, I'll drop a dumptruck's worth on you.

Good luck selling that $2k car here now.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Wow...and people are giving away R32s here in Okinawa.