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nizmo s14 · 09-22-2002, 03:04 PM

Which one would be beter for drifting in your opinion?

Apparition · 09-22-2002, 03:43 PM

As a relative newbie, how does the tall end gear have anything to do at all with drifting?

adey · 09-22-2002, 03:48 PM

the tall end should have nothing to do with drifting, it would only really be useful on the highway (better gas mileage).
It's also been said (and I believe it) that the 6spd tranny (i assume we're talking about the silvia s13/14/15 5 speeds and the S15 spec-R's 6 spd trannies) from the S15 is slightly weaker than the 5-spds because there's another gear in the same sized tranny, and in order to fit another gear in there they had to make the other gears smaller.
from what I hear, "drifters" actually change the 6spd out of the spec-R in favor of the 5-spd, because it can take more abuse.

*DSC* · 09-22-2002, 03:54 PM

1337 Dr1ft3r y0!

5spd would be better I guess. Assumeing the 2 trannys are the same size, the one with more gears would have to make the gears smaller to fit...so the 6spd would be weaker than the 5spd.

Edit: wow, way late one that one...what i get for hitting reply and walking away, then typing when i came back.

AKADriver · 09-22-2002, 07:09 PM

More gears in the same space is the complaint about the 6 speed, but not in terms of strength.

The S15 6 speed is a close ratio box... meaning its 6th gear is not much taller than the 5 speed's 5th.  More gears in the same amount of space.  Driving my stock KA I never find the revs dropping too much on an upshift... it's never hard to keep the car in the powerband.  I don't need closer ratios.  An SR with the stock turbo shouldn't need them either, and reviews of the S15 seem to support this.

Now a high winding NA engine or an engine with a big turbo that spools slowly might need those ratios...  Which is exactly why Autech used the 6-speed in their version of the S15 (200hp NA SR20DE).

If you have to ask "which is better for drifting" then there's clearly a lot about the subjects of both gearing and drifting you have left to learn.  The answer is highly dependent on particular car/engine combinations and your own personal driving style.

nizmo s14 · 09-23-2002, 09:07 PM

TNX. I got my answer here.

09-22-2002, 03:04 PM	#1
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09-22-2002, 03:43 PM	#2
Apparition Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 439 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As a relative newbie, how does the tall end gear have anything to do at all with drifting? __________________ 1990 240sx coupe sold

09-22-2002, 03:48 PM	#3
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the tall end should have nothing to do with drifting, it would only really be useful on the highway (better gas mileage). It's also been said (and I believe it) that the 6spd tranny (i assume we're talking about the silvia s13/14/15 5 speeds and the S15 spec-R's 6 spd trannies) from the S15 is slightly weaker than the 5-spds because there's another gear in the same sized tranny, and in order to fit another gear in there they had to make the other gears smaller. from what I hear, "drifters" actually change the 6spd out of the spec-R in favor of the 5-spd, because it can take more abuse. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

09-22-2002, 03:54 PM	#4
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	1337 Dr1ft3r y0! 5spd would be better I guess. Assumeing the 2 trannys are the same size, the one with more gears would have to make the gears smaller to fit...so the 6spd would be weaker than the 5spd. Edit: wow, way late one that one...what i get for hitting reply and walking away, then typing when i came back. __________________

09-23-2002, 09:07 PM	#6
nizmo s14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 98 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	TNX. I got my answer here. __________________ -Serge

09-22-2002, 07:09 PM	#5
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,518 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	More gears in the same space is the complaint about the 6 speed, but not in terms of strength. The S15 6 speed is a close ratio box... meaning its 6th gear is not much taller than the 5 speed's 5th.  More gears in the same amount of space.  Driving my stock KA I never find the revs dropping too much on an upshift... it's never hard to keep the car in the powerband.  I don't need closer ratios.  An SR with the stock turbo shouldn't need them either, and reviews of the S15 seem to support this. Now a high winding NA engine or an engine with a big turbo that spools slowly might need those ratios...  Which is exactly why Autech used the 6-speed in their version of the S15 (200hp NA SR20DE). If you have to ask "which is better for drifting" then there's clearly a lot about the subjects of both gearing and drifting you have left to learn.  The answer is highly dependent on particular car/engine combinations and your own personal driving style.